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08-12-2015, 01:50 AM
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HSBC: This is what a doom loop looks like in China
HSBC, one of the few optimists on China's prospects, has identified a vicious circle that could hit the country's economy in the years to come.
Qu Hongbin, the bank's chief economist for China, cut his growth forecast for 2016 and 2017 to 6.7% from 7.2%.
That's still higher than a lot of banks' estimates, but the HSBC analyst report struck a gloomy tone.
It focuses on how slowing demand leads to falling inflation, which in turn hurts demand even more as people and companies hold off on purchases while prices are falling.
Here's HSBC (emphasis ours):
We expect that the slowdown in demand will be faster than the slowdown in the supply potential of the economy, resulting in a persistent negative output gap.
In simple terms, China will keep producing a lot of things but fewer people will buy them, meaning prices will keep dropping and deflation will accelerate.
And this is the result:
As we have argued repeatedly this year, deeper deflation could have a negative impact on expectations and growth which may become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It also led to an increase in leverage. In order to break the circle of self-fulfilling expectations, policy makers need to act more aggressively, in a co-ordinated manner.
This is the crux of the vicious circle that Chinese policymakers will do anything to avoid.
Deflation is bad for all economies, but in China, which has high levels of corporate debt, it can spell disaster because it makes fixed interest-rate payments more expensive.
And corporate debt in China has grown faster than in any other top-15 economy.
Here's the chart:
http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5571a884dd0895480a8b4592-1518-596/screen%20shot%202015-06-05%20at%202.17.20%20pm.png
Chinese corporate debt BAML
BAML
As UBS pointed out last week, the cost to companies in emerging markets to service their debt, or make payments on interest and principal, has increased dramatically.
Chinese businesses need inflation and demand to both take the sting out of debt repayments and boost profits.
But with oil keeping costs and prices low, and the US Federal Reserve preparing its first interest-rate rise since the 2008 financial crisis, immense pressure is now on China's government and central bank to do something big to stimulate the economy.
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?221232-Ho-Jinx-will-be-honoured-when-this-happens&goto=newpost).
HSBC: This is what a doom loop looks like in China
HSBC, one of the few optimists on China's prospects, has identified a vicious circle that could hit the country's economy in the years to come.
Qu Hongbin, the bank's chief economist for China, cut his growth forecast for 2016 and 2017 to 6.7% from 7.2%.
That's still higher than a lot of banks' estimates, but the HSBC analyst report struck a gloomy tone.
It focuses on how slowing demand leads to falling inflation, which in turn hurts demand even more as people and companies hold off on purchases while prices are falling.
Here's HSBC (emphasis ours):
We expect that the slowdown in demand will be faster than the slowdown in the supply potential of the economy, resulting in a persistent negative output gap.
In simple terms, China will keep producing a lot of things but fewer people will buy them, meaning prices will keep dropping and deflation will accelerate.
And this is the result:
As we have argued repeatedly this year, deeper deflation could have a negative impact on expectations and growth which may become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It also led to an increase in leverage. In order to break the circle of self-fulfilling expectations, policy makers need to act more aggressively, in a co-ordinated manner.
This is the crux of the vicious circle that Chinese policymakers will do anything to avoid.
Deflation is bad for all economies, but in China, which has high levels of corporate debt, it can spell disaster because it makes fixed interest-rate payments more expensive.
And corporate debt in China has grown faster than in any other top-15 economy.
Here's the chart:
http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5571a884dd0895480a8b4592-1518-596/screen%20shot%202015-06-05%20at%202.17.20%20pm.png
Chinese corporate debt BAML
BAML
As UBS pointed out last week, the cost to companies in emerging markets to service their debt, or make payments on interest and principal, has increased dramatically.
Chinese businesses need inflation and demand to both take the sting out of debt repayments and boost profits.
But with oil keeping costs and prices low, and the US Federal Reserve preparing its first interest-rate rise since the 2008 financial crisis, immense pressure is now on China's government and central bank to do something big to stimulate the economy.
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?221232-Ho-Jinx-will-be-honoured-when-this-happens&goto=newpost).