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Originally Posted by xiaosinful
2 different joints, 1st is called 28 or flower in indo (behind DC mall)
priced : 1.5m
age: around 25
attitude: i would say neutral but she is quite experience
hotel: formosa
meal: dont want to eat
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Didnt eat?
What time did you take her? And how many shots you got?
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Originally Posted by xiaosinful
2nd
priced : 1.1m
age: 20ish?
attitude: new , but easy to communicate with , easy going
hotel: lovina inn
meal : taobao KFC since she is in really deep sleep (snore super loud and unwakeable ), power sleeper can wake and go into deep sleep in like seconds.
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Also didnt eat? Wow! Beside both girls you got were sleepers,they also didnt like to eat too. (they sounds like immortals now,hehehe...)
And the number of shots?
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Originally Posted by xiaosinful
Maybe this is a classic case of its not you its me problem?
@bronono any expert advice on sleeping beauties? encountered any?how you deal with them?
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I remembered some recent words shared in this thread by some experienced bros which may be good for you (may even be good for most learning newbies too) :
As for myself,i often uses the "one size fits all" common advise on how i will pick my girl at the below link :
https://sbf.today/showpo...ostcount=32592
One of my most common words use, thats to drop Expectation by at least half.
Now,lets take a 2nd look at the above advises. What do you see in common on their advise? I see bro SibeiNew and bro PigletDiDi uses the same words,"Treating their booking girl like their friends". And i am almost sure bro Blackpage does the almost similar for his non-booking girl/s too. Please remember,the girl you took is going to accompany you for many hours to come (usually more than half a day),the key is ,a willing and happy service provider definitely more than willing provides better service happily,right? Hehehe...
(making someone happy do not necessary need to go to the extend to spoilt them tho)
1. In the beginning,it would have to 1st start with how you would pick your girl. And you will find what i am about to say is almost the same as what i will do on how i would pick my girl :
https://sbf.today/showpo...ostcount=32592
I picked girl/s from booking joint that SHOWS INTEREST in me. I dont say i pick my girl base on their looks or their figures,i dont say i pick my girl base on their pricing,i dont say i pick my girl base on how many HP (handphones) they carried with them while they are in the fish tank. I say,i pick my girl/s base on THEIR interest in me and thats my priority (not that the rest of the other points i mention isnt important,hehe..). Or at the least shows interest,have eye contact,if she looks like a willing party,smile at her to see her response blah blah blah....
Example : If i am a 100 kg plus guy,surely i wouldnt go all out for a very slim girl who looks like she is about only 40kg odd,right? Or the least,i will need to think from the girl's perspective,if she likes it "that way". This one pretty much common sense.
2. Now the OKT's attitude. When i ask him about no runaway girls etc etc,i also observe his attitude. I can also ask OKT when i eyed 2 or 3 girls that shows interest in me,which one is better,their pricing etc. If his reply is everyone also good,hehehe....i thanked him and walk off. Shows that the OKT didnt know his girls well enough and/or simply not interested.
3. Getting the joint's name card, or at the least the OKT's number and hopefully at the pressence of the booking girl.Like i say in that link you clicked (click it if you havent already done so),its a mind game thingy. The girl you paid sees you got the OKT namecard,she is less likely to come up with pattern. Less likely doesnt mean she wont tho,but if she shows interest in you,you are more or less secured. Believe me,she can still comes out with some form of pattern and making sure the OKT sided with her if she choose to. Worse case scenario if she is completely not interested in you.
4. Lowering your expectation if you are new or a 1st timer. Many failed in this aspect. My minimum expectation is a SSYT not showing interest in me,then i am in for the deepest shit,hehehe...not true? Many mixed up between expectation and their standard requirement for girls. Many tends to choose very young slim sweet pretty girls,but they didnt know these girls wasnt interest in them and remember,the girls picked were very young. And what do most young girls have in common in any country? Playful,wilful (immature in thinking),looking for fun,excitement,activities and when one picks them,they will have to ask themselves,"can i keep up"? They may end up not having a good time. Try a change,by picking a girl off your "requirement" just once. Just to see if you mixed up between expectation and requirement.
And lastly,keep that "i am your paymaster and you MUST serve me like i am your master" mentality out. (reminds me of the foreign maids that were tortured to death in Sillypore and Hongkong by their paymaster)
5. Picking girls between the SYT and MILF range.The girls i picked may not be the girl that shows interest.In that case,i will give it a miss. I look at the girls from left to right. From the left side (or right side) of the joint usually range the ugliest fattest oldest towards the right where the the most prettiest,youngest and slimmest girls.For me,its somewhere in between those range so as to try to get the best from both world.
6. OKT is the key person to share one's fetish (if any) and talking to the OKT gives you some information of the girl.Info like if they are good at certain service,eg BBBJ etc. Most Batam girls were quite bbbj conservative and especially younger ones. But imagine this,if you could get a bbbj from these girls,it goes to show a few things,you definitely have a good chemistry with the girl/s,the girl/s like you,you know your game well etc.
7. Being humble is the hardest to explain. And believe me,to me this is the most crucial if you arent looking for robotic cold service. Look at bro Sibeinew's comment as above quoted,he peeled the prawn shell for his girl.(he's not the only person going to Batam i knew who would do that) Look at bro PigletDiDi's comment,treating them like a friend,not slave (which can easily translate to "not-a-sex-worker" at least for a while from my perspective) and then from bro BlackPage's of not be allowing the making mistake/s and yet not be learning from it. They all have shown some level of humility from my point of view. This goes with experience,bro...and i believe you are also equipped with that too.
When i have a booking girl in my room (that shows interest in me),i try not allow her to think that i only want to bonk her even tho she knew i wanted to. i try to make friend (help her forget she's a sex worker for a bit). And how do i make friend? I 1st intro myself,try to get to the know the other person. Be curious,learn more and as much as i do that,my booking girl also wants to know more about me too. So thats the beginning of breaking the ice aka getting the 1st part of the chemistry right. It is afterall,the 1st time she knows me as much as it is also the 1st time i know her. Chemistry is afterall 2 sided,hehehe...
Your sleeper solution (from my perspective) : I notice one small little detail when you answered my earlier questions.You picked girl from the 2 places that cost over a million rupiah. 1st was 1.5 million rupiah,2nd was 1.1 million rupiah. Try those girls at between 800k to 1 million rupiah girls that SHOWS interest in you regardless of their looks (so long they dont fall under the ugly category). Try to "make friend". Try to find a common talking topic (so long its not about shopping,buying things for her etc).
Cant speak bahasa indo? Thats just like me,use google translate then,hehehe...i have been using it since day 1 of my trip and i am still rather illiterate with Bahasa Indo,hehehe...yes,google translate takes a bit more time,but it can be quite fun when your message gets across,hehehe...just dont go and book a hotel room w/o wifi coverage will do.
It will be a 3rd time if you go for your next trip and if the 3rd still fail,i am guessing Batam may not be suitable for you,bro. And try to do a 3D2N and relax yourself. Take things slow and easy. Dont pressurize yourself (its suppose to be a relaxing fun trip). My last alternate solution if you still fail,hehehe...go bathe with flower water.
I believe,you are going to have a better next trip. Your sleep issue might likely be solved,but i am sure over time,there will be new ones (new issues,new problems). Well,and that's where we learn,arent it?
Whatever i said of the above-shared,i have done it before and they were just my own personal experience in Batam. And it has been repeated before,just a little more detailed this time.
Hope it is able to help you.