Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

[hendri2]

I pity those who have families in batam, they may be able to send money but this is not the same.....
Those who have only tourist visa have to return by next month....I think probably a few hundred....

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by kbt7046

So even vaccine is available now, Singaporean would still won't be allowed for travelling overseas for holiday until lical service sector has recover substantially, I predict that this won't be happening until 2023. So expect long waiting time. By that time, Batam would be totally different, Balai will be dead, like another Batu.

Call horizon ferry yesterday to ask whether my ferry ticket bought at harbourbay expired in june can still be used. The staff said depend on the colour of the ferry ticket.

Then I ask her roughly when can spore and batam open border. She told me according to some source, the earliest batam and spore border to open will be end of next year 2021.
(One and a half year later)

So maybe no need to wait till year 2023...

[fde83]

Minister Lawrence Wong confirmed on Friday (17 Jul) that “travel for leisure” will be unlikely till the end of 2020.

On the bright side, those who travel for “essential” purposes – business conferences & overseas meetings – will probably be able to do so.

We summarise what else the Covid-19 taskforce has outlined in terms of travel plans till the end of this year below.

‘Avoid all travel’ is still Singapore’s advisory
Based on the unfolding global pandemic, the government’s official stance for travel remains consistent with earlier advisories,

This is in line with research done by the cross-ministry Covid-19 taskforce which understands that though the situation is in flux, the virus is “unlikely to go away” around the world.

Minister Wong added that the timeline we’re looking at is that Covid-19 will remain “even till next year”.

In the short-run, since the global situation is unlikely to improve, Singapore’s travel advisory will stay unchanged, he reasoned.

That’s why we can expect that leisure travel will still not be advised, as it remains ‘non-essential‘.

We’re extra bummed that leisure travel till the end of 2020 seems off the cards for now, as the world continues to combat the coronavirus.

However, with the global case count hitting 14 million with over 600k deaths, it’s definitely prudent to reopen travel in a measured way — to minimise the risks of second or third waves of infections.

Perhaps it’s time to look into a local staycation or BBQ at a chalet instead, to round out an eventful 2020. We’d prioritise only your closest loved ones for the guest list, just to be extra safe.

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by hendri2

Even though, zero cases in batam, we are not allowed to enter batam, unless have a kitas, and the 14 days lockup....
We may have to forget about batam, and wait for the vaccine.
Those without the kitas, have to leave by end of the month....

Going to batam is not an issue, no need to quarantine for 14 days if you have the long term pass or indonesian pasport

The issue is only when come back to singapore have to pay $200 for swab test and $2000 for designated 14 days SHN place.

Currently the no. of cases is extremely high in Jakarta and Surabaya and Batam is open and accessible from these 2 big cities.

Therefore spore will not allowed border with batam to be opened even though batam no. of cases are low..

(Unlike Msia during Movement Control Order disallow inter-state travel)

[hendri2]

Thanks, retirebatam, now to retire in batam will take a Long, Long, time, Hehehe!!!

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by nono1973

So no choice, can only order from online. Cost 2 to 4 times the usual price compared to Batam.

All along i thought ur in Batam.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by hendri2

I pity those who have families in batam, they may be able to send money but this is not the same.

Yes, its actually not money issue, but the husband/father cant visit batam to see the wife/kids. That caused stress to the many families.
But if compare to many locals normal family that are suffering now. Family with a sporean husband, will still be able to live in comfort in batam.

My neighbourhood in batam have around 12 families with sporean husband. Good things are, all these sporean wivies always have gethering, share info on the covid-19 issue, have listening ear when in stress and of course gossip.

There is a big whatsapps group also, with only sporean wivies in batam from different various part of batam. I heard from my wife, many in the group been feeling very stressful in this period due to their sporean husbund cant enter batam.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Kaboon

I look back yr post on 13 mar, looks like u were already in the "new normal" at batam since b4 mid mar 2020.

My thoughts were this, when you are safe, i can also be safer. If the girls can be safe, then i can also be safer too,hehehe...

Happen to met an elderly Indonesian man (probably nearing 70s) in Singapore last month, he tells me covid is nothing in Indonesia. Just 2 tabs of panadol and 2 dose of antibiotic would solve the problem.

I told him to put his face mask back on as he didnt have his mask covering up to his nose and shares with him that in India, covid is also nothing there too. According to some news article, 2 cups of cow urine and 2 bowls of horse dung can solve it.

End of the day, result speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by TempterYee

Singapore's COVID-19 restrictions will be eased again on Jun 19, with the start of Phase 2 of reopening. The Government said community infection rates have been stable, while the situation in large clusters and migrant workers' dormitories has also stabilised.

Hehehe...i already have some aunties and uncles starting to book my bring-along trips to Batam since phase 2 starts.

My answer to them, prepare at least S$2400.

S$200 for those swab/PCR test going there, another S$200 for the same test when returning. The rest of the money, be prepared to pay for quarantine expenses. And thats not including the payment for treatment if the test result
turned positive,hehehe...

Originally Posted by iicycold

lol...u've jus given me new ideas of wat 2 buy 4 all my ger gers in btm liao....lol...& onli cost ard 50k ea ,so no expensive....lol

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mus b fair,every ger ger in btm mus've 1....lol

That is to prevent their pussies from catching the virus??

Just joking,hehehe...

[hendri2]

Bro, ndnd, keep up the spirits...vaccine is akan datang, Tinggu 4, 5 bulan, Kita bias pulang kampung...hehe!!

[iicycold]

Originally Posted by nono1973

That is to prevent their pussies from catching the virus??

good brother says can put tis on my hp wen i go btm nxt time, can prvent all virus, sickness & evil 2 me....lol....i tink my p galang taxi driver wil like it.





seventh mth cummin soon...lol...it's jus nxt mth onli. Mus prepare....lol....mus prepare....

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by hendri2

Bro, ndnd, keep up the spirits...vaccine is akan datang, Tinggu 4, 5 bulan, Kita bias pulang kampung...hehe!!

Tetap Semangat



Miss my K2 KTV drinking session

[hendri2]

Bro, ndnd, Indonesia will start mass production of vaccine from Jan 2021...may be others will be earlier.....get ready to board the ferry, first come first serve!!!, hehe!!

[nitecrawllerr]

In major change, Indonesia set to relax property rules for foreign buyers, says minister


JAKARTA - Indonesia is set to relax property rules soon to make it easier for foreigners to own homes in the country, a Cabinet minister said on Thursday (July 23), in a major change that could spur the slumping economy.

Agrarian and Spatial Planning Minister Sofyan Djalil told property tycoons in a webinar that the new property rules set to be ratified into law by the end of next month (August), will allow foreigners to have the same rights as Indonesian property buyers.

"On this foreign ownership matter, God willing… we will have (the Bill that covers the matter) ratified into law by end-August," Mr Sofyan said in the Web seminar attended by the country's top property tycoons.

"That is the commitment from Parliament and President Joko Widodo had requested for such a timeline to be the deadline."

Among the webinar's participants were Mr James Riady of the Lippo Group, Mr Muktar Widjaja of the Sinar Mas Group and Mr Sugianto Kusuma of Agung Sedayu group.

The government's plan to loosen the property rules comes amid the coronavirus pandemic that has shrunk the economy and caused massive job losses.

South-east Asia’s biggest economy was estimated to have shrunk by at least 3 per cent in the second quarter year on year, compared with a 5 per cent growth last year.

The Indonesian property sector supports at least 170 other industries from cement, steel and the creative industries such as interior decor. The sector employs more than 30 million people or about 11 per cent of the country's population.

Foreigners are currently allowed to buy apartments, but not landed homes, in Indonesia and they only get a 30-year leasehold titles for these units, which made it tough to get bank loans.

The 30-year leasehold is extendable by another 20 years upon application. Buyers could also later apply for an additional 30-year extension to the leasehold atop the 50-year lease.

But this has posed a big stumbling block for foreign buyers and soured demand, as Indonesian law could change in between their applications.

In contrast, Indonesians who buy properties in the country generally get a freehold tenure to their homes, or leaseholds with guaranteed extensions.

Further, in many other foreign countries, such as Singapore and Malaysia, leasehold titles have terms of more than 90 years at one go.

Mr Sofyan said President Joko and the government are concerned with the current inflexible clauses of ownership and want them changed.

He said that the administration is keen to upgrade the ownership title status given to foreigners when buying homes.

But Mr Sofyan did not say if the expected amendment to the law would allow the non-Indonesians to also buy landed houses.

Responding to Mr Sofyan's August timeline, Mr Sugianto said in the webinar: "It is the right timing if the change happens in August, because everyone is waiting for this. It would drive the property sector."

Mr Sugianto suggested that the change should be accompanied by regulations that allow foreigners and their family to a have long stay visas or permanent residency like other countries such as Malaysia and Thailand.

"Other countries give 10-year multi-year visa for the whole family of the foreign home owners. If Indonesia gives five-year and it's extendable, that would be good enough," he said.

Mr Muktar suggested that foreign home buyers should be given access to financing. He said they should be allowed to pledge the title of the units they buy to a bank to get a mortgage.

"The property sector has huge multiplier effects. Foreigners buying homes in Indonesia are bringing in money. They can't take the property to their home country," Mr Muktar said. His comments were seen as an attempt to assuage nationalist sentiments frequently expressed in Indonesia by those opposed to foreigners being allowed to own property.

Mr Riady, meanwhile, took issue with the tax office's recent moves to question prospective buyers of large properties. The moves have dissuaded the buyers being probed.

Indonesia has in recent years stepped up tax collections, applying a harsher law enforcement on errant tax-payers.

"We need to simplify this - the query on where-the-money-is-from part. We have had clients who were about to make a transaction and were then drilled by the tax office. They ended up cancelling the purchase," he said.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...es-for-foreign

[hendri2]

Hope this bill will be passed by end of Auguest and applies to new purchasers and existing owners....

[jookowi]

Originally Posted by hendri2

Hope this bill will be passed by end of Auguest and applies to new purchasers and existing owners....

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