Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by localbest

[U]There are generally 2 types of ayam found in Batam perhaps

Cant agree with u more.

Originally Posted by iicycold

Sorry har,no offence intended to any1. Tis world is a twisted pl,ppl's mind also kena twisted,so my words also can twist. To every1's each their own.

Good analogy there btw.

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by Black Page

So, it happens, but I would not really say that this is the norm, as the bullshit claimed in many TV documentary reports.

As we all know nowadays most employees are underpaid. What more for those blue collar jobs or unskilled workers. There arent enough jobs available at Indon. Those ceweks (most are divorcee i encountered) have children to feed. What other options do they have beside working as lonte? How much can they earn working as watresses. I agree with u that the media only featured one sided story.

[jameschong1]

so u agree they must work as prostitutes to survive.
only way is to become a chicken?

[malau]

Any1 tomorrow night m2 or u got recommend?

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by jameschong1

so u agree they must work as prostitutes to survive.
only way is to become a chicken?

If they have a choice, you think they want to work as such? Believe me, there are not enough jobs to go around. And if there are, the jobs are very low paying.

Most of the males are lazy( depending on which ethic, Javanese or melayu), and the females feed the children.

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

As we all know nowadays most employees are underpaid. What more for those blue collar jobs or unskilled workers. There arent enough jobs available at Indon. Those ceweks (most are divorcee i encountered) have children to feed. What other options do they have beside working as lonte? How much can they earn working as watresses. I agree with u that the media only featured one sided story.

I certainly agree with you.
I will try to rephrase what I wished to say with different words.

It is not common, based on my experience, that girls are forced to prostitution even in Batam by gangsters or inhuman relatives who "sell" them to other gangsters. It happens, but it's not the norm.

It is certainly true, instead, that most girls are forced to prostitution by circumstances and financial needs, to support their families for example. They would not do that, if there was abundance of good job decently paid.

And of course, this is on top of the vast humanity of girls who just wish to collect money in an easier way, not to survive.

[fde83]

Hmmm....very interesting read about ceweks going into this line (jual puki) by choice or not. This is what I think,

By choice: is the fastest way of making good money for this gals. (Mostly 99% all gals in joint)

Not by choice: was con coming to batam to work as something else. So no choice, since have to pay the "travel agent" coming to batam.

For newbies out they who is reading this, Never, ever felt sorry for this gals, its a game to them when it comes to us (tamu) and they are very good at lying. If they could hide all of this to thier family member, you wonder what kind of lies they can tell u.yes they do work in this line because of struggle (divorcee, support kids at home, support family member at home, support bonces (bf) in batam). Have fun in batam but never get trap

Like how the locals would say, main nasi bungkus udah.

Happy cheonging to my fellow bros

[Kukjie]

If I am staying in Nongsa Point, any nearby KTV/massage to recommend?

[MiG27]

Come out cheong, I dun ask the chicken why they come out work as chicken.
Similarly, I also dun like them asking why come here cheong.

To me, it is kind of redundant.

I pay the money, you give me the service. Purely commercial biz transaction.
The most I can do is just treat them like I treat a human.

Dun give me those sob stories when the basic service I paid for is sorely lacking.

[mygirly]

Anyone taking first ferry at Harbourfront tmr morning?
Or meet up for dinner?
Pm me ya!

[tomcat007]

Originally Posted by BobbyTrabo

Hi guys, is it safe to bring girls from the Pacific Disco and and recommendations for massage. Thanks

Bring to massage is should be safe, as long as not in your hotel room. Bring back hotel room can be safe out unsafe, as a bro recently FR'ed.

[TwinTowers]

Originally Posted by localbest

There are generally 2 types of ayam found in Batam perhaps:

The first type of ayam are those ceweks who is due to unforeseen circumstance which force her to work in the joints because of :

1) the need to pay up the loan which she borrowed from loanshark,OKT,etc in her home town in Java/Sumatra for the sake of using the money for her family urgently.

2) being cheated or kena tipu by friends into this trade by sweet talking to her about how good is the money income as most of the cewek are young and naive.

Therefore the first type of ayam are actually not very willing to work in this line and generally do not enjoy sex with a stranger.

She tends to be a bit shy when she is fully naked in the room with the customer. Therefore calling her to do bbbj, cim, ar, many positions are almost impossible.

Therefore these type of ayam is likely to pretend to be sick and request to go back joint early. (Main sandiwara depan tamu)

She prefers to talk to customers more than doing sex. Therefore she is not so money minded and will not expect too much tips from her client.

However, there may be a chance that she will turn over a new leaf and repent and quit if she managed to find a "golden turtle" who is wiling to simpan her as a mistress or married her as a wife. This type of ayam are mainly found in booking joints and massage parlours.

The second type of ayam is those cewek who is on their own free will come to Batam to work as a prostitute.

They are generally materialistic type and simply just want to earn easy money way out by being a prostitute.

She is simply too lazy and uncontented to work in a normal job and whole day just thinking about enjoyment by expecting the tamu to bring them eat good food, shopping, buy them the things they want, etc.

These type of ayam are usually found at discotheque and pubs as a freelancer although some are found in booking joints. They are generally more open to sex and are probably more demanding for tips.

Johnkhb care to share with us which type of ayam your wife belongs to. I'm sure the bros you asked to mass zap me wants to know too.

Now don't play dumb on me ya!

By the way how's Marine Live Seafood's business.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by MiG27

However, just want to point out Mey's pic is this.
http://images.samsforum.com/img/32504/

Originally Posted by donkan

Thanks for the reply and advice.

As Bro Mig reply, this will be the pic of Mey or Mei:
http://images.samsforum.com/img/32504/

Noted wth many thanks,the photo link has been amended with the correct link :

https://sbf.today/showpo...postcount=2587

Originally Posted by donkan

1:
I have checked and counted the cash in my wallet. I confirmed one piece of S$100 is missing from my wallet. Possibility of mishandling my wallet and dropping of that note or similar is very feasible. Possibility of Mey taking the note is also feasible. I seriously don't know which is which. Thanks a lot for making me looking into a bigger picture rather than narrowing down to Mey. At this point, I am unable to accuse Mey.

Still considered as a suspect for your stolen money.

Originally Posted by donkan

2:
Yes, correct Bro Nono, the muscular guy was the one who drop off Mila. My regular OKT the one who engage mila thru third party have informed me just a day ago. This is where experience counts, Bro Nono you are very experience and good!

To date,i still don't count myself as 'very experience',there are lots of things that I do not know about Batam yet. Am still in the learning process.

Originally Posted by donkan

3:
The girls were missing four times, claiming that need to go toilet. Two of it they took almost like 30min and 45min respectively. So, they were not on estaccy but on some other drug. Either the tool they have it with them or get from someone nearby. Maybe, the pub itself. I don't know. But I confirm, they were on something as their face expression and speech do not resemble as of a normal person.

I often try my best to stand in another person's shoe to face the ordeal he had face before and then try to rectify the problem to see if I could find a solution. What if it one day happens to me? Believe me,i would be at a lost if I am in your shoe and I believe 80% of us reading this thread would too. More importantly, we learned from your experience so as not to make your mistake/s. And what I will do was not to give myself a chance to even come close to making those mistakes i see others made.

Originally Posted by donkan

4:
Both the girls never return after they left with the muscular guy. I assume they have packed all their stuff within that 5min. Yes bro, it simply means they have planned and executed the assault. Bro Nono, Thanks again! Your Guess is very accurate!!

Thank you for helping me to understand the situation better.

Originally Posted by iicycold

everyone has to work to put food in their mouth & often 4 their families. All of em jus wan to live like the she-bot does.My concept of merit is,to make the cewek's job easier by being nice (but not spoiling her),to try make someone's day within my means.

I believe those who has the capability to work and yet willing to work should not go hungry hence i dont give to beggars but will give more to those who try to sells me something in the street.

Originally Posted by KohOnly21

Pass-by Btm Centre yesterday night and Sekupang this morning, no military or any high alert from the security was felt.

Just hope their authority wont go around using that as an excuse to extort tourists.

Originally Posted by AsuraWrath

Special note :

Singaporeans in Indonesia and/or travelling to Indonesia are advised to be mindful of their safety during this festive season. They should be careful in crowded areas and avoid places without a visible security presence. Singaporeans are also advised to closely monitor the media for reports about the security situation in Indonesia.

The targeted places by terrorist were usually ALSO carrot chopping places (at least to me ,it seems so). If you are the terrorist, where will your likely target be?

1. Harbour Bay Ferry terminal?

2. Nagoya City Walk Mall/DC Mall/Panbil Mall/Kepril Mall?

3. Booking joint?

4. Hotels in Batam not so much frequent by Sillyporean?

5. Lower and mid-end massage places?

6. Ibu Joko,Hai Ou,New Siang Malam,Acia Ikan Bakar food court behind Prima Asia Hotel?

Or will it be...???

1. Batam Center Ferry Terminal?

2. Nagoya Hill Mall/BCS mall?

3. Nagoya Entertainment District aka NED

4. 4 star luxury hotels?

5. Major massage places or places of interest that are more commonly found online?

6. Windsor Food court or the like?

It really depends on how intelligent they are. And i believe they are not exactly all stupid. Its like the movie Independence Day...the alien who attack earth,they like to get take landmark 1st where most people will go. Where's Batam's famous landmark? You name it but i doubt you will see me there much.

Honest opinion,i fear those wearing uniform at the custom and on the road driving more than the terrorist. (it does not mean i dont fear terrorists)

Again,play safe, my priority.

[m3taph0r]

hi guys, going to batam for a day trip on monday.
any ktv to intro?
nv been there to play ....

[TwinTowers]

Batam Info / Interest /... 16-07-2016 10:47 PM Never trust CB indon kia johnkhb or SBY! Up u. ????????

I wonder why. Johnkhb u have others whom you have step on their toes.