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Old 05-12-2004, 03:12 PM
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Brother PTR,

I am looking forward to hearing your "con-stories"! You might want to consider compiling them into a 10-year series and I'm sure you'll be able to top the best seller list! I'll be the first to queue up for it when it is released! Too much for me to learn... from everyone in this forum....

Whatever the case, happy weekend everyone!

For those out to party, don't need to be good.. as long as you're being smart...

Cheers!!

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few days never log in already so many sad stories from bro PTR n the others... good to share with other new sinkapor bros in order not to make the same mistakes... i must agree the china men here really have this mentality that foreigners here r meant to be ripped off.

btw any bros in Suzhou here?
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few days never log in already so many sad stories from bro PTR n the others... good to share with other new sinkapor bros in order not to make the same mistakes... i must agree the china men here really have this mentality that foreigners here r meant to be ripped off.

btw any bros in Suzhou here?
Dear Brothers,

Your acceptance of my postings and reading are the best rewards of my minor effort in writing those rather long postings. About writing a ten-year series, it will be quite an effort. Actually, I have written some during the old Sammyboy Fourm hosted by Delphi, it will be nice if I can get them back and post here. I will continue to write as far as there are readers, even if they flame me, as I believe that they must have done it with a reason, which can be good one that I can absorb and improve myself.

I am now in Kunming, alone in my hotel room writing this post. Just down, when coming back from dinner, I was approached by these two 15/16 year old girls asking me whether I need companion. What a world now! at such a age, they start pimping for others. As I am an old man, I very seldom go for street walkers now/ More over, I have a day long presentation and discussion to go tomorrow, and need to preserve some energy. So I told them "No, my wife is upstair" to cut off their persistence.

Any brothers here have the most updated information about Kunming, other than those posted by Brother gigantic_?? Please share, and I promise you I shall write a report.

I might go for a good rub at the Tian Zi Suana Center in the hotel, and see how it goes.

With best regards from Kunming.

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Re: ShangHai Recommendation!

Dear Brother Shanghaitan,

As promised, I have written a simple FR in the Kuming - China Thread. It is a simple and factual FR, and I do not find it juicy myself. This is a turn of the habbit of writing only rather sad postings. I hope you will enjoy it.

So many brothers in Shanghai agreed that we should meet. I would think so. Unfortunatly, I can be there only after Chinese New Year. Why not you all meet first? I will join you all for Tea, as I have started to try to stop alcohol driinking already.

With best regards from Kunming.
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Dear Brother PTR,
Thank you for your FR in the Kunming thread. I think that the juicy part of the entire transaction is secondary. I feel that the underlying importance is the lesson that we need to be careful with our valuables and also to be careful not to become stereo typed as a "stupid" customer who can always "drain" a little more than what is usually necesseary or required.

But then again, unless we have a correct and accurate price guide, it will usually depend on gut feeling and individual satisfaction level, right Bro PTR?

To all brothers out there, do keep the FRs flowing and keep the discussions as open as we possibly can!

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Just to clarify, I'm not one of those cheated by XiaoLongNuus before.. I'm not that rich to begin with.. hahaha.. so I'll always be humble...
Hey Bro Shanghaitan,
Well, I should be the one to apologise. Actually like bro colourwolfy has said not all of them are bad. Like yourself, I am not rich...haha.... Though I have been here for many years but I did not cheong much, so cannot be considered as veteran.

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I made strong statements because that is what I strongly believe.
In general, your comment about the Shanghaiese Gals are right. Most of these ladies are self-orientated. I think many times, this single child policy resulted in these problem. Also they like to be pampered and most Shanghaiese guys like to do that as well. Even my Shanghaiese friend has to pay his former Shanghaiese gf during the break off. I know both of them. Another time was Shanghaiese guy told me that whenever his gf looks at certain things for too long during shopping, he will have to work hard to pay for it.

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I apologise if I have antagonized any brothers out there. Please accept my humble and sincere apologies... 大哥们!小弟刚刚出道,如有冒犯的地方,请您大人有大量,多多原谅!
There is nothing to apologise, as you probably have a lot of adventure and exposure much more than me. I am not very active, prob getting older and dislike the KTV environment.......you are not paying for their service but you pay to tell them to leave.

We are just exchanging info, no hard feeling against any individual.

May be you can show me some places to cheong.....hehe

Talk to you later!
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btw any bros in Suzhou here?[/QUOTE]

Bro Van Basten,
I do visit Suzhou once a while, I have some customers there. Unfortunately, not familair with the place there, especially after office hours.
By your name, I think you must pretty good at "scoring". .

Where you located? At SIP or SNZ?

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Old 06-12-2004, 11:15 AM
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Dear Brother Shengge,
Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated!

Saw something interesting last weekend in the Raffles City food court... let me recount that incident...

Saw this Shanghainese couple sitting beside me.. the girl was throwing a tantrum so the poor sod have to find ways and means to appease her..

First he bought her rice with Brinjo.. she said she does not eat that... so off the guy went and bought her hot-pot soup with rice.. still she refuses to eat.. just sat there looking glum..

No choice.. so the guy finished the Brinjo rice.. all the while coaxing the girl to eat.. but to no avail.. after he has finished.. he started to try to hand feed her... at first, no reaction.. but slowly started to eat.. FINALLY! As she started to warm up, she complained to the guy that her socks are loose.. so, he quickly went down on his knees and pull up the socks for her... OMG! I cannot believe my eyes.. Shanghainese carrying their girlfriends' handbags (which he did when they left) was bad enough...

To cut the story short, she eventually warm up enough to feed herself, all the while pouting.. sigh...

Shanghainese women are so pampered.. and the guys are, in my personal opinon, "useless"! It is natural for guys to pamper their love ones, but to go to the extent of scurrying around, wagging their tails and begging for affection, I think is pathetic.

For argument's sake, I think that Shanghainese women are much more capable then their male counterparts... resulting in the sorry state of Shanghainese men... which in turn breeds contempt from Northern guys for these "weaklings"..

On the flip side, there are Shanghainese men who, due to the fact that they have money, are utterly unbearable. Talk super loud, acts like they own the world and everyone owes them.. sigh.. so extreme.. the weak and the brash...

But I guess, this is China... have to go to extremes to be "noticed"...

Just my 2 cents worth...

Cheers!

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For argument's sake, I think that Shanghainese women are much more capable then their male counterparts... resulting in the sorry state of Shanghainese men... which in turn breeds contempt from Northern guys for these "weaklings"..

On the flip side, there are Shanghainese men who, due to the fact that they have money, are utterly unbearable. Talk super loud, acts like they own the world and everyone owes them.. sigh.. so extreme.. the weak and the brash...

Bro Shanghaitan,
This sort of thing is very common in Shanghai. Too bad that I still don know how to carry the lady handbag. These ladies probably 'boh gan buai tua'.
That could be another reason why most ladies like the Shanghaiese guys.
Did your gal oppsite you, ask you to do the same?

I see that you have plenty of things to contribute about Shanghai.
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Brother Shengge,
No.. there was no girl opposite me.. only one beside me.. who is my life-long partner... and No.. she did not ask me to do the same... hahaha...

Sorry to disappoint you!

Cheerio!
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No.. there was no girl opposite me.. only one beside me.. who is my life-long partner... and No.. she did not ask me to do the same... hahaha...
Sorry to disappoint you!
With your wife? Good then.
So any nice place to recommend for weekends?
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No.. there was no girl opposite me.. only one beside me.. who is my life-long partner... and No.. she did not ask me to do the same... hahaha...
Sorry to disappoint you!
With your wife? Good then.
So any nice place (free and easy type) to recommend for weekends? (day time, I mean not nite time)
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Hi Brother Shengge,
What do you like to do during weekends? I'm usually home and at most be doing some light shopping.. Shanghai is way too crowded.. Xiang Yang is a good place to go to.. or Cheng Huang Miao.. or you might want to visit Coffee Beans and Tea Leaf near Raffles City... just a a relaxing time.. drink coffee or tea and watch the world pass you by..

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hey shanghai brudders,

I am actually not in shanghai, but a client has asked me, if I know a simple question. (I'm more into Jakarta scene at the moment).

I am still reading through the posts in this thread, but I am only up to page 57... can someone help me out?

If my client picks up a girl in Galaxy disco, but does not want to take her back to the hotel? Any other cheap joints nearby to fark her in (short time)? Or maybe you guys can introduce a place that can fark right there, pay up and get the fark out (like a massage joint maybe)? Somewhere close to Galaxy hotel?

Don't worry, if you guys think this is a dumbass question man. I know the rules (heh heh, just trying my luck). I'll continue to read the post regardless. Thanks brudders.
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But then again, unless we have a correct and accurate price guide, it will usually depend on gut feeling and individual satisfaction level, right Bro PTR?
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Dear Brother Shanghaitan,

Here, I still beg to differ. It only works when everyone is telling the truth. I am not sure how many of us really give the right figure. At times, some brothers may give a figure that did not correspond to what they have paid due to "face" problem, and this pressure exerted by us on "Not to spoil the market." It is just like the giving of tips to waiters or waitresses. If a client is happy with the service rendered, he gives more. If he/she is not satisfied with the service, he/she can opt to give nothing or lesses amount. I prefer to tell the truth even if people say that I do not follow market rate. What is market rate then?

Price guide needs to be accurate as well, who should be the right people to give a reliable one, sorry, I am not sure as well. I still feel that personal satisfaction with the service is the most important factor. The only time that I do not give is when the service provider gives me reason just to get more from me, such as the case reported in Kunming.

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If my client picks up a girl in Galaxy disco, but does not want to take her back to the hotel? Any other cheap joints nearby to fark her in (short time)? Or maybe you guys can introduce a place that can fark right there, pay up and get the fark out (like a massage joint maybe)? Somewhere close to Galaxy hotel?
Dear Bro,
You can ask your client to try out
http://www.jj-inn.com/
it cost about RMB200-300 per nite, there is no hourly rate room available after evening.
First of all, why Galaxy? (Don't think it will be cheap!)
Secondly, why go to another hotel? (Waste money)
Thirdly, I would rather recommend him to visit one of the HC that posted here. Safe (I mean for not being caught by police, not the lady, be careful not to bring them to a place that you are not familair with or going to her place)

Hope it help!

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