Think there's a difference la bro. SYT is visual so there's no 2 ways about it. I mean people may have different views on what age range qualifies as SYT but fact is if the gal is late 20s and looks late 20s, even if she ties 2 ponytails and act cute in school uniform, the age /wear and tear on her looks can't hide she ain't a true youngish SYT.
GFE is more of the experience we get from the ML, harder to set a criteria since how any customer interact with a ML and how she reciprocate is really dependent on how the 2 parties feel about each other. Some ML can be ice queen to most bros but if bump into one that she digs his appearance or sense of humour, she may lower her defence and be more chummy. We can't call that bro a liar right if she indeed dish out better GFE to him. But as others have mentioned, GFE is just a gimmick most of the time la, and everyone has a different bar as to what they feel is good GFE they want to experience. For some, the ML address them 亲 or 哥哥 they feel is GFE gao gao.. for me is just cringe lol.
haha ya bro, definitely not calling any bro a liar.
I understand different bros rate GFE differently. therefore the definition is so vague and broad that even being friendly is considered as great GFE. that's why suggest setting some kind of standard for the use of the term GFE. So if the girl is just friendly/chummy/good customer service kind -> don't label these as GFE. GFE should be like she acts like she is a girlfriend, or you feel like your went to visit girlfriend coz of her good acting.
A short review for bros that wanted to try. Must think twice. Looks is same as pic. Slightly discount 5%. But service wise for me is disappointment. Not even passing score. In and out in 27minutes including showering twice. Paino massage for 5 minutes and turn over for a hj that's all.
looks like a case of standard drop from when just arrive to now. I guess it took her about a month or so?
actually most don't expect tipping. at least those that I visited. there was one (ok it is FL, but the same applies), collected money up front (some bros think it is red flag, but I don't feel it is the case), I had a great time after. Then tipped her a bit when leaving and she was also stunned, even said actually no tip also nvm, but if I wanna give of coz she take. I think some collect money upfront maybe coz of bad exp with customer and wanna protect themselves, but I think this might work against them in terms of tipping, coz lower chance to get more money later as most bros will be rushing to go already.
Actually bro this trade has some unwritten rules la. FJ MO is upfront collect. ML rarely will collect upfront coz it will invite backlash and some customers will outright be offended. I guess one can argue that ML has lesser to lose than FL if the customer is the freeloader type.
I understand different bros rate GFE differently. therefore the definition is so vague and broad that even being friendly is considered as great GFE. that's why suggest setting some kind of standard for the use of the term GFE. So if the girl is just friendly/chummy/good customer service kind -> don't label these as GFE. GFE should be like she acts like she is a girlfriend, or you feel like your went to visit girlfriend coz of her good acting.
There's an easier way..I usually just ignore GFE comments for FRs that I read lol. I do include GFE in my own FRs since some people do factor these in. But end of the day no 2 person click the same way and too many variables, so for my own decision making I just disregard GFE comments made by others
There's an easier way..I usually just ignore GFE comments for FRs that I read lol. I do include GFE in my own FRs since some people do factor these in. But end of the day no 2 person click the same way and too many variables, so for my own decision making I just disregard GFE comments made by others
In ur view, what constitutes gfe? Just wana hear the views of the veterans here
Actually bro this trade has some unwritten rules la. FJ MO is upfront collect. ML rarely will collect upfront coz it will invite backlash and some customers will outright be offended. I guess one can argue that ML has lesser to lose than FL if the customer is the freeloader type.
not 100% true leh, most of the FL I visit collect before I leave. But I don't mind paying upfront la...
In ur view, what constitutes gfe? Just wana hear the views of the veterans here
for me I really have to feel like im treated like I visited girlfriend or mistress lor. a few are really good. even 1st visit can make you feel this way already. some need 2nd visit then open up a bit more. if it is just friendly/smiley/polite/offer water/good customer service, I won't rate it as GFE.
Some factors that will boost GFE for me are, flirting, frenching, being at ease with me, spontaneous, etc.
One other thing is (and a bit controversial) if the service like too good... like the SOP service too good too perfect until like I don't need to do anything or reciprocate and just lie there like a king being served by an excellent sex worker. This kind... I'd feel the service super good, won't complain, but I'd say no GFE liao.
In ur view, what constitutes gfe? Just wana hear the views of the veterans here
I no veteran bro lol. But GFE really everyone have different preferences man. Last time there's one ML quite popular coz she is akin to a dutiful wife, bring shoes to the customer to wear when he leaving, some will help undress the customer shirt and hang, some serve water every session, some feed the customer food (bought by other bros lol), some cook and eat a meal, others just talk sweet nothings or address customer 宝贝儿，亲，老公 etc. Different strokes for different folks la bro. Smart ML will observe and nail down what makes you tick then make a note and will dish out her magic everytime you visit, to get you hook.
For me, have experienced all of the above but none are what I feel is the GFE I fancy. I dig ML who interact w me NATURALLY like a close buddy, not serve me like a tao kay. Attentive, undivided attention and reciprocate /react to my advances. This kind of ML I will keep returning, even if not sensual Queen.
Some factors that will boost GFE for me are, flirting, frenching, being at ease with me, spontaneous, etc.
One other thing is (and a bit controversial) if the service like too good... like the SOP service too good too perfect until like I don't need to do anything or reciprocate and just lie there like a king being served by an excellent sex worker. This kind... I'd feel the service super good, won't complain, but I'd say no GFE liao.
AGREE. Too commercialised type of service..is just a solid xxx provider to me. To each its own la.
I no veteran bro lol. But GFE really everyone have different preferences man. Last time there's one ML quite popular coz she is akin to a dutiful wife, bring shoes to the customer to wear when he leaving, some will help undress the customer shirt and hang, some serve water every session, some feed the customer food (bought by other bros lol), some cook and eat a meal, others just talk sweet nothings or address customer 宝贝儿，亲，老公 etc. Different strokes for different folks la bro. Smart ML will observe and nail down what makes you tick then make a note and will dish out her magic everytime you visit, to get you hook.
For me, have experienced all of the above but none are what I feel is the GFE I fancy. I dig ML who interact w me NATURALLY like a close buddy, not serve me like a tao kay. Attentive, undivided attention and reciprocate /react to my advances. This kind of ML I will keep returning, even if not sensual Queen.
bro exactly the same as me sia... and you are spot on. the ML got to be smart la... GFE is not a SOP thing. Got to think on feet to see what the customer like. So it is not easy to find a ML that is good at this. Sometimes also depends on how the ML sees the customer also la... depends if she like what she sees. One recently mentioned ML (best don't mention who) gave me great GFE, but seems rather icy with other bros. Maybe should RTM her soon to see if attitude changed. haha
the small point you mentioned "even if not sensual Queen". rings true to me too. for me the ML can be lousy in sensual also nvm (lousy massage, lousy cat bath, etc.). Girlfriend also sometimes are inexperienced ma... explore together more fun.
that's why I rate GFE as the most important point for me (as long as the looks and figure can pass my personal standard)
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