Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

[SEAJ]

LOL!

Now you know why I prefer to keep my charitable activities to myself?!

And why I keep such totally apart from my mongering activities!

Lmfao
SEAJ

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Now you know why I prefer to keep my charitable activities to myself?!

And why I keep such totally apart from my mongering activities!

Lmfao
SEAJ

I agreed with you...now we only msg among ourselves...dun understand why by helping others we can be termed as doing bad things...haha....cannot understand many idiots here...either they never go to schools or they sin more than us...haizzzz...

reason why I am no longer meeting or replying a lot of samsters/clones who I consider time wasters...kept my schedule to myself...used to post openly my schedule and clones used that to disturb me by calling my phone at periodic intervals...

worst is when newbies arranged to meet me in HCM...they either late or tell me they cannot find the place...making it sound as though I am at fault...the fact is newbies fly me aeroplane...so become time waster...

[Seletar]

Originally Posted by elijahkyk

ok guys, i am going to post or say something of my opinion. Please all dont be offended. Welcome to zap me also.

1. Humanity wise, i think we don't need to come to HCMC to learn to help people.

2. To offer a helping hand, charity, it starts from ownself and from home.
And not only people in Vietnam needs a helping hand.

3. I believe in Singapore there are many under privilege people who needs help too. Charity begans from home, from the heart, no need to fly to Vietnam to learn about charity.

4. Sometimes we need to clean our own backyard too.

5. Great things starts from humble beginnings.

To all, my apologies if my comment offended all. Just my 2 cents worth of comment. No hard feelings.

Here is my answers:
1) I am one of the voluntary donors, the reason I donate in Vietnam is because I am familiar with this place,
2) This statement small kids also know.
3) In Spore there are many charitable organisation, there are more than enough volunteers. H88, MifaCafe & co help out in Vietnam will make hundreds of people feel they are not being neglected.
4) Need not to say
5) This is true, the small group of Vietnam volunteers would not claim any credit, as this is voluntary work. They are humble people.

Hope this clarify the matter. Thanks

[mutantchicken]

The way i see it NONE who is a member of sammyboy is a man of virtue, some are adulterers well pnety are, some may neglect their own children in favour of a pretty pussy, some might use the services of WL etc etc, but regardless of how they want to clense themselves of this SIN, if they can help another person thats good enough...not speaking for me personally as this type of behaviour doenst irk me, but maybe h88 and gang was attacked because his posts abt charity might be views as him taking a more virtiuous position above us poor whore mongers...anway i think it would be better leave this a pure chonging eating thread, if u want to organise things then do it by pm, if u want to post stories finctional or real..then tehre are other thread to use to boost your ego....just a suggestion

[MIFAcafe]

With or without charity; I already book a place in hell.

Everyone here have a personal agenda; that include you and me.

You want this thread to be a cheong thread; while I prefer otherwise.

No right and no wrong.

Maybe you want to start a thread call "fucking in HCM" I bet it will be a real hit.

I will be there to support you.

There is a thread call TCSS Vietnam by SS08; maybe the charity discussion can be done there too.

Originally Posted by mutantchicken

....just a suggestion

[MIFAcafe]

Stupid clone talking to yourself.....

If you do it again I make sure I take you down personally..........

you want to play game.... I am game on.......

And I am not talking about this clone account humhum.... I make sure I hit the mothership......

Originally Posted by humhum

Mr Volcano,
大人有大量
Once in a while there be some new bird pretending to be expert.

[ZondaF]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

since you said no offence...let me say what I said and please dun feel offended...

as posted by you we met twice...twice I invited you to my group of frens and also dinner over the last couple years....you are ungrateful person...you are trouble maker and like to stir up shit problem....reason why I no longer contact you....no offence right becos I dare write openly...

Sinkie land is different from many other countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, etc...here our rich gahmen can take care of the under-privileged...and our little donations here meant nothing to most charity organisations...I hated to donate to greedy org such as NKF, Ren Ci, etc whereby recent Charity scandal had hit hard on the donors...

if you dun know, I am similar like you...I love Vietnam and Vietnam is also home to me...I organised all the Charity donations here and you are telling me I did wrong thing by doing such things...hope you eat your words...doing something good here and you took it negatively...think my frens and I are better than you...we can say loudly we helped the ppl in Vietnam...in fact in D8 where we frequent, the residents in D8 knew us and knew we did good deeds by helping the poor needy there...we shall continue to help as much as we can...luckily i have a group of frens who trusted me and saw their little donations helped hundreds and thousands of ppl here in Vietnam...

helping your gf/bx family is not doing charity....that to me is a commitment...so dun mixed up Charity and helping family members...&&

the above is my 2 cents worth...not to anger anyone...^^

Two thumbs up. Well said my respect for you bro

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by mutantchicken

The way i see it NONE who is a member of sammyboy is a man of virtue, some are adulterers well pnety are, some may neglect their own children in favour of a pretty pussy, some might use the services of WL etc etc, but regardless of how they want to clense themselves of this SIN, if they can help another person thats good enough...not speaking for me personally as this type of behaviour doenst irk me, but maybe h88 and gang was attacked because his posts abt charity might be views as him taking a more virtiuous position above us poor whore mongers...anway i think it would be better leave this a pure chonging eating thread, if u want to organise things then do it by pm, if u want to post stories finctional or real..then tehre are other thread to use to boost your ego....just a suggestion

I started this thread...so I decide how this thread works...the way I like the thread to run has not deviate from my first post...pls read it if anyone forgotten...

[volcano]

Originally Posted by mutantchicken

If I may i would like to wade into this arguement...so please enlighten me whats teh difference between bia om and KTV.

I know what is beer om, but im guessing you mean KTV is like fortune 700, fortune 1127, catwalk etc and the others is bia om...what makes it a ktv, because it has the words kareoke attached to the building and the bia om have the words nha hang?

the difference between bia om and KTV is not bcos the later has wordings of KTV attached to the establishment or building.

not sure if how many is aware..in a bia om,having the singing facilities is not necessary..the system will only be set up if base on request..customers can be inside the room just purely for drinking n hugging the gals..the room charge for the room will be cheaper if without singing facilities.

back in 2005-2009 where i am still a frequent visitor of bia om..lots of bia om located at TQK and ADV does not even has sound systems and speaker in the room..when customers request for music and singing then the staffs will bring in the sound systems to set it up.

as for KTV,all rooms are equip with sound systems,and usually equip with KOD songs system.the room charge is the same whether u sing or not.KTV pricing is definitely higher then bia om as its considered mostly meant for entertaining guests or for the wealthier ppl to go..therefore,the gals are dressed in gowns and not same as those 2 piece outfit or tube usually worn by those working in bia om.

ST and LT prices may seems not worth while for some people..some would rather spend 750k for a fj..well,theres nothing wrong for both.there are many out there who prefer to get to know the gals better before deciding who they shld bring back to the hotel for the night..and bcos majority of them cant speak Vietnamese..they rather spend more to pick up a gal in KTV bcos majority of the gals can speak either English or Chinese.

as for the spread of gals regarding quantity and quality...i would say KTV has the upper hand bcos of their higher spendings.although i do agree there might be gems in some bia om as well,but the quantity is lower then in KTV.hence,it is sometimes difficult for a group of 6-8 ppl to find a gal back unless they are able to set their expectation at a 6+.

lets use Fortune 700 as an example...the place has 2 groups of mummy..each grp has min 40 gals,hence the place has an average of at least 80 gals and with at least 80% of this is available for ST/LT services.i seriously doubt a bia om has such quantity.now lets compare the price of 700 and bia om..i presume bia om is selling its Heinken at 35k-39k..and the room charge is 200k-300k per hour.and often,the gals will pester to open the snacks bcos its instructions pass down by the boss..presume many will simply give in to their request in order not to spoil the fun..and this snacks come not cheap.

1 ctn of beer is abt 850k..a grp of 4 probably consume 2 ctn bcos the gal generally will "force" u to drink..and if the beer is not going fast enough..sometimes they get the waiter to drink ocassionally.

2 ctn beer - 1.7 mills
2 hours room charge - 400k-600k
fruits - 300k
snacks - 300k-500k (varies,some people dun open)

total damage is abt 2.4 mills to 3.1 mills

as for 700...there is a seating fee of 110k per hour for the gal..beer is 55k per can and no room charge if bill is above 2 mills..there is no snack basket in the room,therefore no need to play "pushing" game with the gals.

2 ctn beer - 2.65 mills
seating fee 2 hours - 4x220k = 880k
fruits - 300k

total damage - 3.8 mills

the difference in damage for a grp of 4 is 700k - 1.4 mills..its basically difference of $10-$20 for per pax.

tippings in Fortune is generally higher..although there is no fixed tipping rules..but customers nowadays normally tips 500k for 2-3 hour duration.ST is 2 mills and LT is 3 mills.

end of the day..different people has different taste and chionging styles..theres no right or wrong..all up to one's preference.

hope everybody has a better understanding of bia om and KTV

do welcome if others has any different opinion and views

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by volcano

as for the spread of gals regarding quantity and quality...i would say KTV has the upper hand bcos of their higher spendings.although i do agree there might be gems in some bia om as well,but the quantity is lower then in KTV.hence,it is sometimes difficult for a group of 6-8 ppl to find a gal back unless they are able to set their expectation at a 6+.

do welcome if others has any different opinion and views )

I knew of several bia om with VBs from 6-8 pointers...pls read sunshine666 forum just in May 2014...the gals easily 50-80 gals up for selections...

as for snacks...mummy dare not bring in becos I said so...usually call mummy before we go to the place...

heineken yes - 33k per bottle (i luv bottles can see is full or half filled)
tips - 300k
mummy tips - 300k
LT - almost 7 out 10 go LT (unless the VB have coca cola)
ST - almost 9 out of 10 go ST (unless the VB have coca cola)
fruits - 400k to 500k

the rest I can agree with you...not going to share theses places openly becos going to keep these places for frens only...

personally find bia om more worth it then ktv...KTV is total waste of money...and we always gets big room with all the ready karaoke system...

[mutantchicken]

I believe beer in fortune higher than 55k plus they definitely bring and consume fruit and snacks I would say add another 1mill to ur bill but most significant difference is how fun the girls are fortune play is dice games hugging def no digging touch naked breat or kissing....its very civil...if u are a decent looking guy with social skills you should be able to get gfe from girls in brothels rather than spend extra time and money kc them

[volcano]

Originally Posted by mutantchicken

I believe beer in fortune higher than 55k plus they definitely bring and consume fruit and snacks I would say add another 1mill to ur bill but most significant difference is how fun the girls are fortune play is dice games hugging def no digging touch naked breat or kissing....its very civil...if u are a decent looking guy with social skills you should be able to get gfe from girls in brothels rather than spend extra time and money kc them

the last time i consume beer in Fortune is 55k..shld be ard mid last year..

yes there is fruits at 300k..no snacks in 700.

[StephenB]

Hi, any good translator app on mobile? google translate really sucks, half the time dunno translate what.

thanks in advance

[jerkface]

Gosh, just spent a few hours reading from where i left off. But to join in the arguement,

Last i visited d1 Sin Lounge 2 years ago, bill came to about 4m for 5 of us. The bottles are not too expensive but the mixers are the killers so i doubt there will be any free mixers (but just my 2 cents since i am not familiar with the scene) Anyway if i recall correctly each mixer cost 100k, and with 1 bottle it could easily be 10 mixers and above. Anyway it was a different experience.

To go back to my day 3 FR. Apologies for the late FR as i do not have time to post ever since i touch down back to my country. It will be as below.

I woke up early so i walked around to explore a little on my own on the local environment. Found a convenient store and bought some vietnamese convenient food store for about 60.5k (ice cream, snacks, hot dogs, chocolates) just for my own travel cravings and fetish. Then i also bought some street food for only 10k @@ it was something like fried banana but just different, and another round looking things which i do not know what but it taste good (just my thing to try new things on the street).

MC came around lunch time and took me to a MILF shop which was supposed to offer either BBBJ or FJ for about 150k however i was running on bad luck as the place was closed. There was a contact no but we didn't call and i was quite disappointed. Even though i generally would not choose a MILF against SYT but i thought i would want to try it out, especially it has got good review from MC and that it cost so cheap and also the MILF he was referring to is only about 30 + -. Anyway because the place is closed, MC took me to a local market (look like some wet market) for lunch which is duck salad served with congee which is extremely good!!!!! I over-ate because it was so dam good and i appreciate that he takes me to such places which is what i like, the local bawah type of place but serves good food. Definitely no foreigner except me. The lunch cost about 140k. I just wanna reiterate that this meal is really good!

Last night i asked if MC loves durian and he did, so today he took me to buy some which is of the better quality i suppose for 45k per kg, and it was about 180k for 1 super duper big durian(again its for trying new things)

It was then raining so we had to stop at a cafe and MC took the durians down for me to eat. But i didn't eat because im not sure if Vietnam is like my country whereby not everyone loves durian and its not so polite to eat in public in case others do not like it, however later he told me that he has not come across any vietnamese that doesn't like durian. We sat for hours and there was quite a few pretty girls here. Some of them more friendly and i certainly hate myself for not able to speak vietnamese as MC keep asking me to talk to a cute girl sitting beside me. Anyway so happen a girl i was chatting with on phone told me that she is within 100m of where i am... of all the places in Saigon we were in the same place at the same time. So MC was kind enough and i hope i didn't offend him that I went to meet the girl nearby while he was still waiting for me at the cafe. The girl is not a WL and we just meet to make friends and for coffee. turns out she's about 90% of her photo and is really quite pretty. She also speaks english pretty ok so communication is not so bad. As of now, she is still talking to me about many things and teaching me some vietnamese.

After that about 11pm, i head back to where MC was and am really glad he is still waiting for me there. We then head back to hotel but i told him that i want to visit another place since we missed the MILF. He was reluctant because he says there's not many good place around and that he's not sure whats the quality is, but i insisted. So we went around and saw 1 hot toc. There was 2 decent looking, 1 about 7 or 7.5, another about 6 or 6.5. The girl lead me up while MC went to the washroom, which later in the room upstairs the girl was talking to me in vietnamese and judging from what she said, i was guessing she said something about 400k or so. Later when MC came up, i told him the girl was telling me something about price and MC confronted the girl, and the girl insisted that i am charged 400k because i am a foreigner. MC wasn't happy because he says he only pays 200, and even though they reduced to 300, he still hates the double standard and we left the place not doing anything. At this point, im really glad MC took me around. Even though 200 and 300k is not much of a difference, and i certainly did not mind paying the extra 300k, but his presence did make me save the 200k initially charged if i was there alone.

Soon he took me to another place he said was recommended in the forum but he has not tried it and i say lets just try it even though its a HJ. Went in for steam bath, sauna, then rest there for pretty long as i think not enuf girls working so late. We both got tired waiting but later it was my turn already. Went in for a so so massage, girl was so so prolly a 6 but later dropped to 5 when i touched her hairy legs. Wore short tight pants which i dont really like due to the inconvenience but i still manage to explore most of her. HJ was so so, and overall was so so. MC did not went for any girls because he had to wait another 30min after i went in, and he worry that i will need to wait long for him, thus he didn't go for it. damage was 120k for ticket and 150k for tips. Btw after the deed is done, the girl did haggle with me in the room politely asking me for more tips written on the paper, or either paying her in my home country currency as she saw it in my bag. After a good 10 minutes of me playing i do not understand what she wants, she finally gave up.

Total damage for day 3 is about 1518500, was higher due to the so so HJ which i insisted to go T_T

[jerkface]

Day 4 FR

Today i would rate it as the best of best of the best!

MC came about lunch time as usual and instead of going for lunch first, he took me to a secret brothel. He recommended a girl to me and had showed me pics in the past which i thought was super hot! I remember telling him thats exactly my type of girl amongst others which he have shown me before, and that i would rate her 9.5 or 10. So today he told me he called and the girl was working so he took me here first.

Upon going in, there was quite a no of girls to choose from, surprisingly from a small place, and i went on with the girl he recommended. And truely enough the girl is exactly the type of girl i like. MC had told me something about her and everything was like he said. This girl is petite, small and thin with fair smooth skin, but with unbelievable BIG breast! At least a D and its natural and soft... soft like nothing i have tried before and while typing this... i just wished i could grab those again..... I had wanted to write about what happened in the room... but then on 2nd thought i thought i will just keep it to myself. I will spare whatever information i can, but the more private ones please let me keep it.

Look : 9.5 - 10, for me she had the prettiest face i could ask for
body : slim and nice, just how i like it
skin : fair, just the tone i like
breast : D at least and for petite like her, its super rare! and soft... and soft... and big... and soft.. and big... sorry i cant stop thinking about it... its really a texture i have not felt in my life so its really special and different.
gfe : 10, nothing less then what a gf will do, and perhaps more. not sure if she does it to everyone but mamasan told that she didn't want to let me go and kept hugging me (according to what mamasan told MC)
bj & skill : pretty good overall, really no complain at all except for hairy pussy, which i usually prefer well shaved, but its still a good experience for me.
Overall experience meter : 500/10... yes exaggerating but i really cant put words into what i felt with this girl. To me she really is nothing less then perfect, she got the look, the body, the attitude, the everything.

and with regards to above, i certainly dont hope MC will intro more guys to patron her hahahaha.

Damage : 800k (i certainly felt the urge to give MUCH MUCH more due to the super duper experience, but i kept it to the rules of the game)

Then we head for the quails which we missed and no kidding the food is really really good. I certainly wasn't expecting it to be that good, but maybe because i have a taste for heavy taste food, so it suited me alot. Damage was 60k for 3 quails and 2 breads with drinks.

Then we head to a cafe which have lesser girls compared to the other cafe i been to, to avoid the rain. Damage 100k

Then we went for dinner for beef hot pot. I was ok with it but not really a fan or maybe because i wasn't too hungry yet. Damage 80k

Then we go for coffee again with really loud music and many hot girls there, place was darker then others we've been too but experience was slightly different from the other cafe we been to. damage 100k

MC then took me to a local disco like place which supposedly you can raba raba with the PR, but i didn't really find anyone...(maybe because i've met the earlier girl from the brothel) and the rest dont really seem appealing to me. We had a few beers and later got a cute girl joined us. She's half cambodian and half chinese. Quite pretty look although with make up and again small petite body with huge breast. We joked for a bit and she was nice enough to let us try poke her breast. Certainly more then what i expect as the disco was supposed to be more like waist hugging etc and not hanky panky. Bill was 300k for all the beers and inclusive the waiter tips whom have been very very attentive to us, and MC asked me to tip 50k to the girl, but i felt bad plus i didn't have smaller change so i gave her 100k for the additional breast poking.... she came out to see us off at the entrance and i took the opportunity to walk back to her and hugged her. Damage as 400k in total.

Lastly we went for a BBBJ place whom MC recommends either a young girl but not so good skill or an older one, prolly 25-26 but with very good skill. When we reached, only the young girl was available so i took her. Again maybe because i met the girl from brothel, so she didn't look too great for me. Prolly a 6 - 6.5. But really young like maybe she look 18 or so. The good thing is she tries really hard to make it work. So plus points for her. Total damage 120k inclusive of drinks.

Total day 4 damage : 2.46m

Day 5 - just had lunch together and met up with another girl and again MC is really accomodating to take me to meet her in a short period of time before i head back to the airport.

Total day 5 damage : about 250k

Total trip damage : about 7.5m which is about 460 SGD, less then 500 SGD inclusive of hotel but exclude flight.

I truly enjoyed my trip this time and owe it no other than to MC. Perhaps next time there would be another different experience.. but for now.. i cant keep my mind of that girl....pardon me... Please enjoy your trip as well guys.

Oh btw, please dont ask me for address, as much as i would like to help you, i cant possibly tell the address because even MC himself doesn't know the address. Till my next trip ^_^