Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3) - Page 203

mutantchicken · #**3031** 19-01-2014, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by naemlo

Just move on

No point finding the truth about which city is cheaper or more expensive.... Come to PP, no need to compare.... it is definitely cheaper. U come, I pay for 4 gers to serve u.

Confirm your legs soft, no soft another 4 gers.

well yeah pp relaively cheaper but when u do a cpf based on my parameters, ie drinks +bf + payment, factor in how they reluctant to give bj, and the fact that i couldnt even find ONE acceptible girl in ALL the 3-4 fishbowl massage places i went to and i found it difficult to find a acceptable one the many bars in pp, i ended up getting a "freebie" vietnamese bar girl, so that skews the cpf quotient for cambodia

Singkieu · #**3032** 19-01-2014, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mutantchicken

well for me the cost per fuck would include the "time factor" as thats the real cost of getting her in the bed..so if i took her on 3 dates of 300k inclusive of everything except negligibles eg fuel i even include the hotel room ... and on the third date i get to fuck her, and even though i was quite horney that day and managed to get 3 shots in that 3hr sex romp with her my cpf would still be 900k, as for me its the average performance, next time i might only manage 1 shot, or what about the time where i am only interested in eating her pussy and not have any shots, or maybe i fuck her 5 times but manage to delay my ejaculation in order to please and sexually satisfy her and by the end of the day im way to tired to finally even cum...in those time where i dont cum but fuck 5 or 6 tiems does that mean my cpf is infinate?

A cpf where u actually calculate teh number of shots fired suits young pre-mature ejaculators or cheap charlies who want to cum as much as possible.
I use the cpf as a measuring yard to see whether this particular girl is giving me the run around as the normal cpf for a freelance in hcmc is 500k.
So if my cpf running tally for some girl im dating is running at 1-2mill, and she giving me attitude, then i know to press the ecape button.
The cpf is merely used as a quantitative tool to keep things in perspective.

Ok agreed. Good way of incorporating the time factor.

So therefore the definition of CPF should be then, 'Total monetary outlay on subject until sex happens with subject', or:

Σ(Expenses on subject) i=1, n=sex with subject

Now the question is, and using your example, how to reflect the difference between a case where the time period between date #1 and date #3 is 2 weeks, and a case where the time period between date #1 and date #3 is 3 months, assuming both have a CPF of VND 900k?

mutantchicken · #**3033** 20-01-2014, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Singkieu

Ok agreed. Good way of incorporating the time factor.

So therefore the definition of CPF should be then, 'Total monetary outlay on subject until sex happens with subject', or:

Σ(Expenses on subject) i=1, n=sex with subject

Now the question is, and using your example, how to reflect the difference between a case where the time period between date #1 and date #3 is 2 weeks, and a case where the time period between date #1 and date #3 is 3 months, assuming both have a CPF of VND 900k?

the issue isnt time but the reasons why..there was such a time elapse..eg if i spent x dongs then i said it was pointless and i gave up, then she reinitiated contact with me showing her interest, it might be possible to reset the counter, but in most cases i would just add the first date as part of the ongoing tally. However if tere was a time lapse of 3 mths and it was due to use being busy then i would just continue with the tally, so over all it doenst make a difference whether the time lapse is 3 days or 3 mths, the tally keep on running
The point of keeping a cpf tally for ME is to determine whether this particular girls is worth teh effort.
My personal view is that in regards to women paid sex and love is mutually exclusive. I refuse to romance whores, just as i think its immoral to try and get freebies from whores.
Normal girls are meant to be loved, and thus involves the investment of time, affection etc.
Whore are meant for sex then paying them...whilst still treating them as a human being worthy of respect, just dont love them

I was aware of this theory from my own experiences, but someone put it into words, tehre are 5 genral aspects of love
1. Physical sex
2. Non sexual touching also teh pleasure of being with someone attractive
3. languange and communication, sweet tallking/verbal emotions
4 Emotional expressed by doing things for your loved one
5. Buying stuff and giving them money

I have always and aim to use the above four aspects to get my women, obviously as i get older and more unttratcive iu wioll have to use #5 more. But as it is with ALL my gfs i basically maintain them on less than 2 mill a month, and a cpf of about 200k.

So where i use the cpf is where the girls im dating is costing me more than the cpf of a freelancer..where im expected to not romance and not provide the 4 aspects, and just provide #5.
So if teh girl im dating is both costing me more than a freelancer AND i need to do #1-4, plus she is giving me attitude, then clearly i need a exit plan.

The examples i use is when guys talk about getting freebies and they spend the whole days sweet talking a girl, praising her putting her on a pedestal..walk around talking her shopping holding her purchases, taking her to a nice restaurant, and tehn she is giving him attitude, and after that he gets to fuck her overnite and when you work out teh cpf is 2mill...wtf id rather just pay a girl 2mill and not do all that shit!!!
Thats where the cpf quotient comes into play...its not so i can be a cheap charlie and say yeah i fucked her 6 times that night and so 2mill/6 is 350k and so yeah i got a good deal.

Im not a fucken sex deprived guy where i can cum more than 2x in a night so my cpf would be based on 2 shots for a overnight, regardless if that particualr time i did cum 6 times.
To do a cost per shot analysis would bring forth stupid scenarios where for example she let me cum 1 but during the night i woke up whilse she was sleeping and i masturbated 10 times so would that mean i shot 11 times?

naemlo · #**3034** 20-01-2014, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyCheong

Wow Phnom Penh so hiong!

Not hiong... dun worry. End of the night, your kuku still in 1 piece.

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Originally Posted by mutantchicken

well yeah pp relaively cheaper but when u do a cpf based on my parameters, ie drinks +bf + payment, factor in how they reluctant to give bj, and the fact that i couldnt even find ONE acceptible girl in ALL the 3-4 fishbowl massage places i went to and i found it difficult to find a acceptable one the many bars in pp, i ended up getting a "freebie" vietnamese bar girl, so that skews the cpf quotient for cambodia

It is the same in every city... if u know where to find, u will enjoy it. As a tourist who stays in a city for a week, u will tend to explore only a small part of the fun.

Same in HCMC, as a tourist, HBT is the easiest but also crappy service n expensive.

Singkieu · #**3035** 20-01-2014, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mutantchicken

...The point of keeping a cpf tally for ME is to determine whether this particular girls is worth teh effort.
My personal view is that in regards to women paid sex and love is mutually exclusive. I refuse to romance whores, just as i think its immoral to try and get freebies from whores.
Normal girls are meant to be loved, and thus involves the investment of time, affection etc.
Whore are meant for sex then paying them...whilst still treating them as a human being worthy of respect, just dont love them...

...I have always and aim to use the above four aspects to get my women, obviously as i get older and more unttratcive iu wioll have to use #5 more. But as it is with ALL my gfs i basically maintain them on less than 2 mill a month, and a cpf of about 200k.

So where i use the cpf is where the girls im dating is costing me more than the cpf of a freelancer..where im expected to not romance and not provide the 4 aspects, and just provide #5.
So if teh girl im dating is both costing me more than a freelancer AND i need to do #1-4, plus she is giving me attitude, then clearly i need a exit plan...

The point of keeping a CPF tally should be similar for anyone - is the subject worth the effort or not?

I agree on your point about how one should keep 'regular' girlfriends and whores separate because of the distinction between love and paid sex. That's why the CPF is powerful because it transcends this distinction - you can use/apply the CPF in both cases - love and paid sex.

Last point of clarification - when you said you maintain your girlfriends on less than VND2M a month, so basically it means you have 2 girlfriends that you see fives times a month each = 2 x 5 x CPF of VND200k = VND 2M?

mutantchicken · #**3036** 20-01-2014, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Singkieu

The point of keeping a CPF tally should be similar for anyone - is the subject worth the effort or not?

I agree on your point about how one should keep 'regular' girlfriends and whores separate because of the distinction between love and paid sex. That's why the CPF is powerful because it transcends this distinction - you can use/apply the CPF in both cases - love and paid sex.

Last point of clarification - when you said you maintain your girlfriends on less than VND2M a month, so basically it means you have 2 girlfriends that you see fives times a month each = 2 x 5 x CPF of VND200k = VND 2M?

no that figure is MAXIMUMS i generally get a new gf every 3 months so 4 a year, been here about 5 yrs so close to 15-20 gfs, I HAVE NEVER given these gf EVER more than 3mill a month sporadically, ie some months i help them other months they dont ask i dont give in fact most girls dont ask.

Thats the first point, ie i dont give a monthly allowance like what other guys do.
Secondly my dates on avgerage cost 200k a date sometimes more sometimes less eg today i too my gf to chao goi vit..cost 90k then i went back to my house for a bonk. Othertimes i took her to seafood, cost 1mill. But on average a date will cost me 200k, and afterwards we often have sex, sometimes i cum othertimes i like just pleasing her or to feel myself inside her but not wanting to exerte myself till i cum. So without going through the hassle of using a calculator, i can say my cpf is generally about 200k.

With new girls again, my SOP is 1 date coffee, 100k, second date dinner 200k, third date dinner or movie etc 200-300k, then i bonk...so tally that is 600k/2 so again my cpf is 300k or their abouts. This is a general off the cuff calculations.

Generally my comments are made as a average, ie MOSTLY i dont give money, and when i do its justified, for example my gf needed to borrow 2 mill as she wanted to but a 7.5 mill bike, as she had to return her sisters, and as she worked as a PR she needed to travel during work etc. I gave her 2.5 mill as a once off.
And i suppose because i gave her this 2.5 mill, i am less likely to take her to the movies or things she likes, but in terms of dinner I always take girls to places i like, when i end up at touristy places its mostly because i was misled..see my nuoc suong marina comment.

I dont run gfs in parallel, i run them in series and i see my gf 3-4 times a week with bonks prob 8-12 times a month.

There have been obviously bad situations but i can generally feel that out when i talking to her before i meet for coffee, or whilst im having coffee. The last "bad" experience was 1.x mill dinner at nuoc suong marina..after that i didnt contact her again

another point of clarification regards the cpf for ME is this. The costs included in MY cpf may be different from yours.
Eg when i take them to dinner i only calculate 1/2 the cost as i would have to eat myself, however if i was pressured to taking to a restaurant i wouldnt otherwise go myself then i would calculate the WHOLE cost as in my mind that was of very little benefit to me, likewise iof i went to KTV or disco, the ENTIRE cost of the night would be calculated into the cpf as i get nothing from standing around getting drunk listening to bad loud music..surrounded by social misfits who have to pay for girls company and attention. I draw the line at paying for sex, but i refuse to pay for a girls attention and her non sexual company.

bolueeleh · #**3037** 20-01-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyCheong

Wow Phnom Penh so hiong!

hiong doesnt mean good, imagine fucking a "20" year old fm the alley brothel, when missionary style holding up the legs, u can see feet no wash, body has stale sweat smell, 1 time only, never again, i rather pay 3 times more, more enjoyment.

Hurricane88 · #**3038** 20-01-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bolueeleh

hiong doesnt mean good, imagine fucking a "20" year old fm the alley brothel, when missionary style holding up the legs, u can see feet no wash, body has stale sweat smell, 1 time only, never again, i rather pay 3 times more, more enjoyment.

haha...we always never know who had went in or under before you...better be safe than be sorry...

mutantchicken · #**3039** 20-01-2014, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bolueeleh

hiong doesnt mean good, imagine fucking a "20" year old fm the alley brothel, when missionary style holding up the legs, u can see feet no wash, body has stale sweat smell, 1 time only, never again, i rather pay 3 times more, more enjoyment.

stale sweat full of pheromones makes u feel virile..and unwashed feet... u plan to suck her toes ? hahah...seem not bad for me if she HOT 20yr old and if she was reciprocating my ardour...

bolueeleh · #**3040** 20-01-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mutantchicken

stale sweat full of pheromones makes u feel virile..and unwashed feet... u plan to suck her toes ? hahah...seem not bad for me if she HOT 20yr old and if she was reciprocating my ardour...

your english very chim, luckily got google

not even close, she only keep on saying "ge ge" "quick quick"
i say never again becoz of 2 things, 1 - dirty like hell, 2 - she say 20 but down below only hv few "whiskers"

i dont want end up eating black bean rice

bolueeleh · #**3041** 20-01-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurricane88

haha...we always never know who had went in or under before you...better be safe than be sorry...

i always have protection

, hiong in this case i meant go to back alley chicken house, becoz they were talking abt CPF, those back alley chicken house u can get for 10$ 1 shot, but i bring her back to hotel room, so paid for 25$ LT, but after 1 round i ask her go back, i want to do "scrub down" in the bathroom.