How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type

[Tai_zi21]

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

I know there are many other guys paying to go out with her, one guy actually gave her $2K just to eat dinner, etc, etc....any ideas how can I test her to see if how true she is to me and definitely I am cutting back on my expenses to get back my ROI on her.

Also any idea what is the best pass or way to get her back after her six months singer's pass expire?

Thank you guys very much!

Just some my thoughts here since my current gf is also a PRC singer

First the fastest way to get here back in spore is after 3 months she go back,then you can apply her for tourist visa to come back! max stay only 2 months... if she wan to come back work as singer then have to wait for 1 year before she come back! if u wanna apply her as student pass here,i'm not very sure here... maybe some seniors can advice me abt tat...

How to test her? is she with you 24/7? prob spending too much on her will make u the biggest customer to attend to everytime! how well have u know her? have u decide to visit her home town together with her? and maybe meet her parents as well? given if u have spend quite an amount of time with her together,u should know her character very well by now also

Answer is are u able to handle the truth? as wat most da ge in the forum always say guys always thought only their gal is special and diff from the rest of the PRC gal...

If u wan a very truthful but harsh answer... i would suggest to look for DYBJ cos i would seek for advice from him time to time if i need some harsh but truth answer

Cheers

[xXFreedomXx]

Just to check with senior bros here, if KTV gals let you french kiss, what does that means? Different country girls have different meaning?

[warbird]

Originally Posted by johnsm

It's been awhile since I posted but this is an intriguing thread to read.。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

I hope to share some of my opinions and experience as well. Hopefully some of the mates here will chip in and engage in further discussion.

Over the years, I have stopped believing in paying someone directly for sexual favors. Of course, nothing is FREE and I have always paid in other ways like for dates and holidays etc.。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

Having shared the above, picking up is only the beginning of the game。。。。。。。。。

Originally Posted by johnsm

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In my experience, if they agree to go out with you and actually turn up, chances are they will follow you back for the night. Usually, I will just service them to completion for this first meeting and will not have sex。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

Hi bro johnsm,

Thanks so much for sharing ur valuable experience in picking up gals.

Are u married? Are u looking for that one 'great woman' u would like to share ur life with?

Cheers!

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

Dear Gurus, I have not been here for quite some time, reason being, I have been totally KCed by this singer! What was initially a great return on ROI became a bad investment simply because I became KCed by her. Now I hang her flowers by cannons and buys her expensive gifts like diamonds. Although I am her official laogong, and she swears that she is only fucking me there is no way I can verify this for sure...........
Also any idea what is the best pass or way to get her back after her six months singer's pass expire? .............

Hi Bro ME,

Totally KC-ed by a singer?

Many esteemed bros hv answered ur questions below...I just want to add that getting KC-ed will make a man lose control of the RS.

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Back to the topic on picking up gals outside KTVs…

Me and my friend did just that on Monday… at about 11+pm after a drink in a boring pub somewhere in Orchard, I drove my friend to Havelock Road… circled outside TAM to try pick up gals leaving the complex…............................

Hi Bro FA,

Ths for sharing ur newest pick up experience.

Originally Posted by johnsm

Hey ME,

You have definitely been KC-ed by this singer, which you already know yourself. I hope you have not been approaching the singer by appearing to be needy and desperate for attention, else she will definitely own you!
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Hi bro,

Very rational advice.

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Aiyo, no need to test lah. Any singer worth her salt will know the trap being set up for her.

OK, so what if you manage to convince yourself (with enough evidence gathered) that she only sleeps with you? Does that then justify throwing hard earned money at her?....................................

Enjoy the KC but don’t lose control over your financials..............

Hi Bro FA,

Good advice.

But whether a pussy is exclusive to a man or not is important from my standpoint. If you're 99% sure she is exclusive n if she has tested negative twice, you can safely do raw.

BTW, I'm delighted w/ 99% as nothing is 100% certain in this universe.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by newbieboy

to everyone who's spending too much, this is KEY. Well said bro.

Losing control of your money, your temper demonstrates to them you're just a very old boy..................... Aim to be the one to laugh with them, not the one they laugh at.

Many of these girls have confessed to me that every act of apparent "selfless love" irks them instead of moving them. Who likes their men to be jiggly mounds of jello? They know the equation too. Not pretty you will love them meh? I often feast in the fruits and meals brought by these doting Roberts, to whom I extend my utmost gratitude here. Hopefully one of them will give me a diamond ring ...........

Hi bro newbieboy,

Well said.

Originally Posted by Tai_zi21

Just some my thoughts here since my current gf is also a PRC singer

First the fastest way to get here back in spore is after 3 months she go back,then you can apply her for tourist visa to come back! max stay only 2 months... if she wan to come back work as singer then have to wait for 1 year before she come back! if u wanna apply her as student pass here,i'm not very sure here... maybe some seniors can advice me abt tat...

How to test her?..................

Answer is are u able to handle the truth? as wat most da ge in the forum always say guys always thought only their gal is special and diff from the rest of the PRC gal...

If u wan a very truthful but harsh answer... i would suggest to look for DYBJ cos i would seek for advice from him time to time if i need some harsh but truth answer.................

Hi bro,

Ths for ur opinion.

Originally Posted by xXFreedomXx

Just to check with senior bros here, if KTV gals let you french kiss, what does that means? Different country girls have different meaning?

Hi bro,

IMHO, her pussy is yours hahaha...

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Good morning!

Many bros still get KC-ed by the wrong women, both WLs n non-WLs.

Getting KC-ed by a wrong non-WL could be even more catastrophic. The hapless man may end up marrying n living w/ the wrong woman for the rest of his life!!

We need to remember this:

The person who cares the least controls the RS.

If you get KC-ed or if u hv more KC for her than she has for u, u lose control of the RS.

A man who loses control in any aspect of his life, especially in his RS w/ his woman, is NOT a confident n masculine man. He is most unattractive. Period.

His woman will lose respect, attraction n love for him, sooner rather than later, even if she was madly in love w/ him n was financially, emotionally n sexually addicted to him BEFORE.

She will be miserable n can choose to leave him or stay miserable...or cheat on him hahaha.

Yes, I must admit I do hv a little KC for my 2 long-term mistresses, XW n EN, but they hv more KC for me. If I had zero KC for them, the RS would be short-lived. It's perfectly OK if I lose both of them tmr haha.

I hv several options to replace them: one is a 23 yo tall (170), sexy n fair Fujian gal w/ natural C who is coming soon. I met her some time ago n never upped her. The other is a 20 yo 3rd yr student at a famous uni in China who wants to go to Gotham City to be w/ me after her graduation. She is chio n tall (168) too. She has good command of English. I'm trying to convince her to do a Master degree here in SG.

BTW, 20 yo TH has been my 'best find' inside n outside SG KTVs in the last 2 yrs. She is BY material. However, I hv already upped her...so no BY-ing her for me.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[besafe]

This lady gave me her qq number 2861917929 on SBF pm.
I am not interested.
Any bros interested can try your luck.
Cheers.

[xXFreedomXx]

thanks bro warbird for your reply.

the pussy is mine? sure for a cost. nothing is free.

[MoralEpitome]

Thanks to the many bros who gave such good advice, yes, I will address my KCness and I think I am less bothered by our quarrels and her demands now, got another 22 year old hubei girl who willl come back on six months singer pass, she asked me bring her out to play just now, but I was tired after my stay with my singer last night at amara and also don't know where to bring a 22 year old girl out for a night of fun, so I rejected her, any suggestions for places to bring her out?

[johnsm]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro johnsm,

Thanks so much for sharing ur valuable experience in picking up gals.

Are u married? Are u looking for that one 'great woman' u would like to share ur life with?

Cheers!

Bro WB

Hey WB,

It is my pleasure to share plus I have enjoyed reading many of your posts. I am quite intrigued with the thoughts of BY since it helps to set the stage for expectations in the r/s. However, I still do not believe in money for honey at this point but its just me.

Also I am addicted in the game of picking up and KC-ing them, WLs or not. However its not so much for the sex, but more for the thrill of it. Of course, I always try to part amicably at the end of the day for most of the r/s.

I have never believed in the "one" as I have never been impressed by any one single lady. Maybe they have more KC for me than vice-versa so I have not found a desirable one yet.

Cheers!

[jnewwit]

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

Thanks to the many bros who gave such good advice, yes, I will address my KCness and I think I am less bothered by our quarrels and her demands now, got another 22 year old hubei girl who willl come back on six months singer pass, she asked me bring her out to play just now, but I was tired after my stay with my singer last night at amara and also don't know where to bring a 22 year old girl out for a night of fun, so I rejected her, any suggestions for places to bring her out?

probably STJames Dragonfly.

[MoralEpitome]

I never tot I will ask this but how much do you think is reasonable to BY a gal?

[fallen.angel]

Originally Posted by newbieboy

to everyone who's spending too much, this is KEY. Well said bro.

Losing control of your money, your temper demonstrates to them you're just a very old boy. Make them work for the first term of endearment uttered from your mouth. Makes future meetups easier for you, happier for her. They are so used to Roberts that many do enjoy a challenge. Aim to be the one to laugh with them, not the one they laugh at.

Many of these girls have confessed to me that every act of apparent "selfless love" irks them instead of moving them. Who likes their men to be jiggly mounds of jello? They know the equation too. Not pretty you will love them meh? I often feast in the fruits and meals brought by these doting Roberts, to whom I extend my utmost gratitude here. Hopefully one of them will give me a diamond ring

Well said bro!

[fallen.angel]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi Bro FA,

Good advice.

But whether a pussy is exclusive to a man or not is important from my standpoint. If you're 99% sure she is exclusive n if she has tested negative twice, you can safely do raw.

BTW, I'm delighted w/ 99% as nothing is 100% certain in this universe.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro WB, I know what you mean and I know its damn shiok to do raw with my gal – the level of intimacy just transcends to a whole new level. BUT the problem is I’ll keep worrying about unwanted pregnancy! I don’t trust my gal with her taking contraception cos she is toying with the idea of having my baby!?!??! That’s totally insane and I’m not going to have a vasectomy!

[fallen.angel]

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

I never tot I will ask this but how much do you think is reasonable to BY a gal?

Your ‘reasonable’ and her ‘reasonable’ can be very different. You can get away with a lot less if you can make her sexually addicted to you but you will also have to do a lot of homework - portrait yourself to be poorer than you actually are, business not doing well, [insert your own excuses], etc.

Say if you can afford $10K a month, pay her $4K - $6K cos I can bet with you, after one year, your total spending will still average $10K per month cos of all the gifts you’d bought – birthday gift, Chinese new year (ang pow), Valentine’s day, Christmas, anniversary, etc, and believe me you will – she will try her best to squeeze as much money/gifts out of you as possible – the only guard against burning a hole in your wallet that I know of is to guard against being KCed too deeply.

[MoralEpitome]

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Bro WB, I know what you mean and I know its damn shiok to do raw with my gal – the level of intimacy just transcends to a whole new level. BUT the problem is I’ll keep worrying about unwanted pregnancy! I don’t trust my gal with her taking contraception cos she is toying with the idea of having my baby!?!??! That’s totally insane and I’m not going to have a vasectomy!

You are right on this count, I am fucking my gal raw too and it brings the sex to a new level, but I am not so worried about pregnancy but STD, how can you know for sure she never had a ons with someone else

[warbird]

Originally Posted by besafe

This lady gave me her qq number 2861917929 on SBF pm....

Hi bro besafe,

Have u met CD recently? Does she still look pretty?

Originally Posted by xXFreedomXx

thanks bro warbird for your reply.

the pussy is mine? sure for a cost. nothing is free.

Yes bro, her pussy is yours. Of course u either hv to pay in cash or in kind...

Originally Posted by johnsm

Hey WB,

It is my pleasure to share...............I am quite intrigued with the thoughts of BY since it helps to set the stage for expectations in the r/s. However, I still do not believe in money for honey at this point but its just me.

Also I am addicted in the game of picking up and KC-ing them, WLs or not................

Hi bro johnsm,

It's indeed very challenging n exciting to get many chio gals of ur type emotionally n sexually addicted to u.

But don't get addicted to or KC-ed (using a local parlance) by them yourself. Your self mastery is crucial here. It's definitely not for those who r faint-hearted.

I would call that living life at its best hahaha.

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

I never tot I will ask this but how much do you think is reasonable to BY a gal?

The range is wide bro. Please read Bro FA's post below.

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Bro WB, I know what you mean and I know its damn shiok to do raw with my gal – the level of intimacy just transcends to a whole new level. BUT the problem is I’ll keep worrying about unwanted pregnancy!.............

Hi Bro FA,

Buy a BBT thermometer which is very accurate. If she is pregnant, send her for an abortion.

Yes, it's very shiok doing raw. IMHO, there isn't a greater pleasure in life. Even if my gal is ovulating, I'll do raw, but put on a condom before shooting my load.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Your ‘reasonable’ and her ‘reasonable’ can be very different. You can get away with a lot less if you can make her sexually addicted to you................

Say if you can afford $10K a month, pay her $4K - $6K cos I can bet with you, after one year, your total spending will still average $10K per month cos of all the gifts you’d bought...........................she will try her best to squeeze as much money/gifts out of you as possible – the only guard against burning a hole in your wallet that I know of is to guard against being KCed too deeply.

You're right bro.

The monthly allowance u quote is only for those gals who continue to work. Double that if u want her full-time. Some gals want even more.

Of all the non-WLs n WLs I hv had RS in my entire life, there is only one who has refused all gifts. She is one of my current long-term mistresses.

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

You are right on this count, I am fucking my gal raw too and it brings the sex to a new level, but I am not so worried about pregnancy but STD, how can you know for sure she never had a ons with someone else

Hi Bro ME,

If you're not sure if a gal is exclusive to u, don't do raw.

A word of warning for doing raw:

You must be 99% certain that the gal's pussy is exclusive to u. Additionally, she must hv tested HIV negative twice over 6 months n that she has been declared STDs free by a gyne specialist after exam n appropriate tests.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

A reflection on my changing behaviour.

Several yrs ago, I was only doing STs. In May 2009, I started BY-ing, mostly short-term from 1-4 wks n the gals continued to work. BTW, my 1st few BY-ings didn't go well. Then I asked my new BAO-ees not to work. The RS was still quite brief, 1-3 months. In the last 2 yrs, I hv had longer-term RS, the longest is close to 2 yrs. Of course I still do occasional STs if a gal happens to be my type.

Why the change? A long-term exclusive RS w/ a chio gal of my type is more satisfying n leads to greater happiness. There r the added benefits of more intimacy, sexually n emotionally. Last but not least, it's much safer to do her raw.

The following article written by a mentor refers to non-WLs but the basic concept n rational r largely the same.



LOTS OF ONE NIGHT STANDS VS. ONE GREAT WOMAN



Hey Mr. Mentor, how's it going!

Just wanted to say, I checked over your site and I think it's
awesome what you are doing and teaching people! You have inspired
me to start deserving what I want also instead of settling for just
anyone!

I really don't have trouble meeting woman and going on dates,
it's just that I haven't found a lot of quality woman in this
world. I've been in lots of one-night stands with women and
have come to the realization that it doesn't bring happiness.

Only having a true connection with a woman leads to happiness.

My only question to you is how did you know the woman your married
to now was the right one for you? Out of all the women you dated,
how did you know she was the one? How did you know when to stop
dating is the question I'm trying to ask, what if you kept on
dating instead of stopping and met another high quality woman?


Anonymous



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Thanks for your kind words. I really enjoy hearing from people who
are inspired. I appreciate your story and your revelations.

As for one-night-stands, I've never understood it. I've always
thought that if a woman was worth being intimate with once, she
was worth more than that.

Besides, if I really liked her having sex only a single time
would be nothing short of frustrating.

Your "one question" really is a BIG one. Here's the simple answer:

I dated MANY women. And I dated as many of them at once as I
could handle.

As I did, I made very careful notes of what I liked and didn't
like, even going so far as to building a spreadsheet so as to rein
in my typically right-brained approach to "winging it" when it
comes to such things.

As I learned more about women and what they want from a man, and
as I began to DESERVE a great woman more and more, I raised the
proverbial bar as far as the quality of women in my life.

So yes, like I found out first-hand, guys like you and I run the
distinct risk of encountering the enviable problem of having
MORE THAN ONE high quality woman in the picture.

But having CONTROL over one's dating life is key in this situation.

This means making the choices that affect ONE'S OWN life. Being
able to attract and make my own decisions regarding the women in my
life, I placed myself into the position of being able to fine-tune
who it was I was looking for and I recognized her almost instantly.

This meant cutting ties with some great women, but I was also at a
point in my life where I was comfortable with the notion of being
READY for some stability around here.

Importantly, that decision was MY OWN choice--no pressure from
her--based on experience and being in a position of strength rather
than neediness when it came to my interactions with women in my
life.

There's so much more to this, though. Your attitude matters way
more than objective strategy, and certainly more than tips, tricks
and tactics.

You MUST respect and genuinely enjoy female-ness rather than
being sex-focused, which I've talked about quite a bit in this
space lately.

Otherwise, you will get what you deserve--which is MUCH LESS than
what cements a solid long-term future with a great woman. A man
who UNDERSTANDS and ACTUALLY LIKES women realizes the crucial
importance of masculinity and thereby draws women to him.

Women everywhere CRAVE a man who is masculine enough to awaken
their femininity. Get this principle down and begin having the
"enviable" problem cited above.

Now, being the kind of guy we're talking about here is actually not
so hard to pull off. For most guys, it's kind of like a "light
bulb" that goes off after struggling with the concepts for a brief
while.

It's kind of like when you learn how to ride a bike.

That said, winning a downhill mountain bike race, for example,
is a bit more advanced than simply getting rid of the training
wheels, if you get my drift.

How about a woman's perspective on all of this? Just a couple of
nights ago you wouldn't have believed the quality of our waitress
at dinner who announced to us that she was "dateless".

Although she was beginning to doubt herself, the only difference
between her and her friends was that she refused to settle for a
moron.

Good for her. She shouldn't settle for anyone less than who she
deserves any more than you or I should.

My GF and I both agreed that she should take great pride in her
pickiness instead of doubting it and she will begin to see the
men she deserves come looking for her. These men, by the way,
happen to be guys like YOU.

Did I mention that this 21 year old sweetheart with big brown
eyes and a priceless smile was DATELESS?

There ARE NOT ENOUGH great men to go around. Do your part to
change that...and win. It's really that simple.


Be Good,

Mr. Mentor

[MillerV]

bro WB I really like this story!
Only go for the ones that deserves