China – Traps & Scams – real life experience…

[Sinoview]

Scam : USB drive

Last week or so a good friend of mine bought a 2G USB fm a shop hear the Lowu custom for 180rmb. Price in Sland abt the same 180 but in Sin dlr. He cliamed he tested using the desk top in the shop and it works...

At first we all believe as the price is just way way too cheap. But he seems so convinced that it works well and we ll are very excited...

Two days later, when he had the time to "play" with it. He called and told me he got cheated, that pcs of USB Drive cannot "perform". Files loaded in cannot be retrived. Though when clicked on the properties button it shows a 2 G memory with a nice pie chat.

Meanwhile, we got a friend in SZ to go buy one to evaluate. Thanks to Bro Orange OX. He called within a short while to said that it's a "con job". Somehow, they have created a bat file to "fool" the computer. Our SZ friend is smart he made the shop keeper signed on the receipt : "cash back if cannot work on his PC".

So bro. here, pls do not buy such "cheap" USB.... BEWARE !!!!

[newyorker88]

Let me relate a story that happen in singapore. Of course, it is not a PRC, but an INDIAN from dono where, be in india or blangadash or wherever. No racist remarks, but why I state Indian is because I met 2 such case liao, and they are INDIANS.

First time, they do, talk to you very nicely, go for a cup of coffee, or tell you you got problem, they they claim they are holyman, or fortune tellers. If you resist and want walk away, they will sweet talk you to LISTENING TO THEM. That is the carch, when you listen to them, they will show you their powers, ask you to write a name, and then they can guess it. Also they will ask you to write a number and they can guess it also.

IT IS A PLOY TO GET YOU TO TRUST THEM. Then after all their bullshit, they will say you need help and they can help you by doing this and that. If you still dont want them to help, they ask you for MONEY, for helping them.

First time, I pity the person, after passing him some MONEY, he SAY " so you giving me this MONEY willingly?"

The second one isnt so fortunate. I say where is his passport, I like to see it, and he was shocked. End of the day, keep inisisting he is a holyman and want me to help him. I could have called my police friends on the spot and wait for them to take him away.

End of the day, let it be. They are here trying to take some $$ and I rather let someone else handle him than getting myself into police case.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by Sinoview

Good advice....

Just to add another point. Stay low profile and be humble. Dont act like some "taiwanese Tu poa Zi" and think that their money can buy the world.....



When we are in a foreign country....need more self restraint.....

Hahhaha, sound like our army days in Taiwan, when our guys go out for R & R, alot of fights happens. Sigh! Most singapore guys too cocky after a 2 week jungle training.

Our money is bigger than Taiwan and with so much cash in hand, our guys tend to over do it. Also, we train in southern Taiwan, Tainan, and these areas are poorer too. Also to nite they do not like the ruling KMT that time too, who are richer and stay in the north.

We use their land in the south and they in the north gets most of the $$$, of course, they are pissed off.
Ooops, side tracked too much.

But on the other hand, their gals provide many of us guys for entertainment too. Imagine a few hundred guys got bottled up for a few weeks and every day see guys only, or in the jungle so long! Any ugly gal they see will be nice also! AHahhahahahaha

Originally Posted by Sinoview

Scam : USB drive

Last week or so a good friend of mine bought a 2G USB fm a shop hear the Lowu custom for 180rmb. Price in Sland abt the same 180 but in Sin dlr. He cliamed he tested using the desk top in the shop and it works...

At first we all believe as the price is just way way too cheap. But he seems so convinced that it works well and we ll are very excited...

Two days later, when he had the time to "play" with it. He called and told me he got cheated, that pcs of USB Drive cannot "perform". Files loaded in cannot be retrived. Though when clicked on the properties button it shows a 2 G memory with a nice pie chat.

Meanwhile, we got a friend in SZ to go buy one to evaluate. Thanks to Bro Orange OX. He called within a short while to said that it's a "con job". Somehow, they have created a bat file to "fool" the computer. Our SZ friend is smart he made the shop keeper signed on the receipt : "cash back if cannot work on his PC".

So bro. here, pls do not buy such "cheap" USB.... BEWARE !!!!

just to add that these USB drive is also abundant in SILK STREET beijing. So beware..

[Huzige]

Heard this from a mainland Chinese friend who visited Sanya on Hainan Island. He received a phone call not too long after returning alone from dinner to his room in one of the 2-stars hotel in downtown Sanya – such calls are very common for hotels that don’t screen calls in China. A MM, claiming to be working at the hotel’s hair saloon asked, “Xian Sheng Yao Bu Yao An Mo?” (Sir, would you want a massage?”) It must be the good food he had because his little brain over-rides his big brain and agreed to a massage, on the condition that he is happy with the look of the MM being sent up.

A MM arrived – not too shabby – and she started her “massage” that somehow transformed to a full service. And then the quick-knocks on the door came; a man claiming to be the MM’s boyfriend busted in, demanding “compensation” from him. Maybe the guy was inexperienced, because he wanted only cash and took the mp3 player and surprisingly ignored the mobile phone.

And the best part was when he found out later the hotel did not even have any hair saloon. BTW, many hair saloons in smaller hotels in China offer massage service and more often than not, extra services will be offered or can be negotiated.

Moral of the story – when someone claiming to be calling from the hotel’s hair saloon or massage service, call them back to double-check if "Lao Er" is the decision maker. Or even better, go downstairs to the place and take a look!

While the 4 or 5-stars hotels on Yalong Bay and other parts of China that screen phone calls are not a problem, many of the smaller 2 or 3 stars hotels can be problem. Indeed, I was told it is not uncommon to receive calls when you return to the hotel alone since many of them work in tandem with the bellboys or whoever can provide the info.

[HuiGe3387]

Bro Huzige and all bros here,

Very informative stories and will be very useful in my travels to China very soon.

[Sinoview]

Originally Posted by Huzige

Moral of the story – when someone claiming to be calling from the hotel’s hair saloon or massage service, call them back to double-check if "Lao Er" is the decision maker. Or even better, go downstairs to the place and take a look!

While the 4 or 5-stars hotels on Yalong Bay and other parts of China that screen phone calls are not a problem, many of the smaller 2 or 3 stars hotels can be problem. Indeed, I was told it is not uncommon to receive calls when you return to the hotel alone since many of them work in tandem with the bellboys or whoever can provide the info.

Yo uncle , how come you got so many of such friends with "small brain thinking"...heee...hee.... I think most men are this way esp. after a few drinks but back to hotel room "alone"....

A very good case study....for chiongster to 研究..研究...

In fact, it's not only 2 or 3 stars hotel many "Chinese run" 5 stars hotels also got calls to provide massages services. Eithier when returning back to hotel alone at night or early in the morning. Once in the 5 stars WangFujie hotel in BJ...the call came so early in the morning..i was so tu lan that i called the duty manager to F her upside down. Threatening her that i ll write to their board should i received another sure call during my stay....

But that call was actually good... woke me up my for "morning excercise" before i started a long day....Hee...hee...

[XiaoHoUzi83]

the bets way to counter sob stories is to have ur own sob stories...
haha
=)
who knows...
maybe u can con the con mans.

[Huzige]

[QUOTE=Sinoview]Yo uncle , how come you got so many of such friends with "small brain thinking"...heee...hee.... I think most men are this way esp. after a few drinks but back to hotel room "alone"....QUOTE]

Aiyah, Sino – too many cheongster friends with common interests lor – so hear many2 stories. Then again, we all learnt somehow through “small brain thinking” – sometimes with hard lessons – that include myself! And many of my mainland Chinese friends are real cheongsters these days, especially the Chuppies and those who made their fast bucks in the fast growing Chinese economy with lots of spare cash for fun. On my recent Beijing trip, one eagerly took me to a “great joint” he has been visiting often lately for quickies with the Russian MMs – and it turned out to be the same joint I took him to five years ago when he was still not quite a cheongster. Yeah – how time changes – but going out with my local friends can be really different; I won’t even dare to go back to some of fun places without them – even with a group of Singaporean/Malaysian cheongsters!

As for the calls within the hotels – yep, you are right – and even in foreign-managed 4 or 5-stars hotels that screen incoming calls, although rare. I have received such calls – and found out these enterprising MMs actually rent a room at the hotel and make internal room-to-room calls that bypass the operator! Very innovative, aye?

Anyway, I guess you are now in CP with the gang – so be good, or be good at it!

[SittingBull]

I've experienced the equivalent of this thread story - a weeping 60-year old singaporean man in Bangkok. So I thought $20 (my 10-20% rule) would suffice to help him out of his predicament if his story is indeed true but he gave me a heart-attack-like act at the train ticket office. I parted a bit more (like $50). The ending is not unlike the thread starter's story.

Bro, i too had a similar encounter in Bangkok. Was looking at some of the dvds in a shop, when this guy probably in his late 40s approached him. TOld me that he was having some fun when somebody drugged him and stole his money. SHowed me his Singapore passport and said that he is a hawker in Ang Mo Kio.. wanna borrow 1000baht to buy tickets.. Asked for my Hp and said will return me when he reached Singapore. He even asked to to take down his address and hp, but me, being the softhearted person, told him as a matter of fact, that i dun wanna copy down his address or hp, cos if he wanna deceive a fellow human being, then so be it. If he had the sincerity to return me, just give me a call when he's back in SG... Sad to say, i never received his call... Sometimes our mind tells us to be careful, yet our hearts said that if its a genuine case, then we are almost heartless to be so callous and sceptical.. Hai Ya.........

[risingeast]

Once when I just arrived at Changi and walking to the car park, a PRC man approached me and wanted to borrow some money to take taxi to hotel in town. He said that the tour company didnt turn up to meet him. Straightaway I told him no and walked off.
Another time in the transit area in Bangkok, two women, I think mother and daughter, PRC asked me to lend them some money, as they have no money to get ticket to return to PRC as their credit card suddenly cannot be used. They asked for my contact and promised to send me the money when they returned. They said they asked me becoz I am a fellow Chinese! Whether true or not, I told them no and walked off.

[Huzige]

Saw the following post in the “Shanghai Recommendation!” thread and would like to re-post it to resurrect an older thread I started some time back, as a gentle reminder to other brudders of such threats that can happened any where in China. Indeed, I have heard many similar stories from other cities and towns in China - but they are not geographically unique, since it can happen anywhere.

And their common modus operandi is to gain their targets’ confidence. Few years ago, a colleague of mine walking down Beijing Wanfujing was accosted by one posing as a teacher – respectable look, rim-glasses and all, thus causing him to loose guard. They subsequently ended up in a little KTV joint off Wanfujing that should have set off alarms, but he stayed because of “pretty MMs” while the “teacher” excused himself to go toilet and disappeared. Can’t remember how much it costs my colleague, but I remember it wasn’t cheap education fee for University of Life.

Hope you don’t mind me reposting your thread here, brudder SG Fun, and thank you for sharing. We all can learn from your mistake. But like you said, luckily you do not end up “paying so much …” – but I believe, more importantly no physical harm. One of my Singaporean friend’s brother was kidnapped in Lowu (Shenzhen) a year ago after he was drugged by drinks, and was only released after a ransom of HK$100k paid, with acid burn on his thigh as souvenir. According to my friend, he did seek out SZ’s GA for assistance but decided to negotiate (the kidnapper had asked for 200k) when he felt he wasn’t going to get any formal help. I have also heard (unconfirmed) that three men from HongKong were drugged and kidnapped after getting into one of the drinking joints in Lowu around the same time.

BTW, my friend told me one reason why the kidnappers forced his brother to provide names of relative to contact very soon after his brother was kidnapped was because they found that his brother account has only limited amount of cash to withdraw. Lesson learnt: do not carry a card of a bank account that has large sum of cash since the kidnapper will keep you much longer due to the limit the bank set for daily cash withdrawal.

Also, this is pre-Spring Festival – boom time for crimes in many areas of China where many less fortunate will try all means – some more illegal than others, to make more money to “balik kampong” for lunar new year celebrations 好过年 mah! So, be on guard always!

Originally Posted by SG_FUN

Dear All Brothers

Just want to warn all of you which I think all of you already aware.

DO NOT GO WITH A PERSON THAT APPROACH YOU ON THE STREET FOR GALS.

The story goes...i was bored after a day's work and looking for some food. So after the dinner along the Pan yu road, a friendly guy came over and approached me saying that he has nice gal and the cost was only 450 rmb. This was quite a good deal. Sorry, forgot to mention his name is called Ah Hao. He was along the Pan Yu road, i think the hotel is called Crowne, did not see properly. He was standing outside not too far from the hotel.

He explained that it will not cost more than 480rmb including the cab fees. So my manhood overule the brain and went with him to his premises. This is my biggest mistakes. Do not ever go to the gal places or so call their shop even though they told you that they are proper and will not cheat.

The guy was not too bad during the journey, making feel like friend and i think this is their tactics. When i arrived there, it was a shop with gals. There are only a few gals and i saw one which is not fantastic but big boobs. I guess 34D from Chong qing.

They have the rooms and i was performing my ritual however the feeling was not easy as the it is only a cloth that act as door. I could not take off my clothes as the gals do not allow. She also just pull up her blouse and we lick and rode for 30min. Her skill not fantastic though maybe due to cold weather, and also the small bed. I also afraid that someone came in with the camera or something to black mail.

True enough, not camera, after the fj, the guy came in with another guy and told me 2000rmb. I told him that i have only 600 rmb. He can take it if he want. Then of course he still insist of 2000rmb. He can still said i can call police and report...blah...blah.... but i manage to down to 1500rmb. Still not too bad, just treat it as a normal take away in shanghai. But i did not bring enough money. They brought me to a lot of places to draw money and still could not find it till found an atm at Sheraton and pay him. I could have run away but i do not want any further problem so just gave him the 1000 rmb and he went off. He dare not go to my hotel to withdraw money. The problem is that they keep my juice and they can take it as rape as well when i thought of that. So just bare with it and pay.

I am still lucky i guess not having paying so much.....

I have been in sammy forum for quite a while but did not log in to share as i afraid all will flame me. But this time round i must warn all bros out there in shanghai. I think it is better to have fun in sg than in other unfamiliar places. This is my first posting....please forgive me if it was too long.

I think when you are horny you will become stupid......aiya...sigh...

I think i will have fun in sg and stimulate sg economy than spent on those cheaters...

Total damage : 1500
Transport : 30+15rmb

Face: 6.5/10
Boobs : 34D
BJ : 7/10
FJ : 6.5/10

[tirak99]

Originally Posted by Huzige

Also, this is pre-Spring Festival – boom time for crimes in many areas of China where many less fortunate will try all means – some more illegal than others, to make more money to “balik kampong” for lunar new year celebrations 好过年 mah! So, be on guard always!

Thanks Bro Huzige n SG Fun for sharing the life experience/stories. Keep us always remind ourselves when chiong.

[warmnites]

thanks bro!

here my scary story:

was at a food stall ordered noodles, then one guy came to sat says sharing table so I said OK... then when my food came & paid he ask how to get to somewhere & how much. So I told him, then I told me he just came out from Jail! and needed money to get back to another state. So I ask why were you in jail? you'll never guess what he answered!

He was thrown into jail cause he and a gang of guys went to chop up someone! that person was a money lender !!! they went after him I think didn't want to pay back interest or something by then I no interest to hear quickly finished my food & gave him 10 bucks & left darn fast! hehehe!

[Sinoview]

Bro Tirak99 and me took the express bus fm SZ to CP on Friday 20/1 afternoon and we watched a "typical China scam" at play.

That afternoon, i suggested an Express bus journey over our usual train to CP was that the train shedules during this CNY period are often delayed and the trains are jammed pack with returning workers forthe holiday...

The bus was abt 70% occupied when we boarded. One funny thing i noticed was that the empty seats were all scattered. So Tirak n me had to sit at different location.

The bus was delayed by abt 10 min., due to one stopid well dressed "China lady" in her late 20s who "acted blur" and didnt pay for her bus ticket. The bus conductress walked round and shouted aloud at least 3 times "who havent pay the bus ticket ? " She just ignored the call and pretended to talk on her Hp. Only, when the bus conductress called to check each individual's bus ticket that she owed out... Knn...wat a waste of time...In the later story, she was one of the greedy victims who got conned..

It was 80 minutes trip.

The journey started as normal as most passengers onboard dozzed off as the bus pulled out of the bus terminal.....

That bus supposed to take us onto the Guang Shen highway then came off Huang Jiang (Prince hotel is located ) first stop then proceed straight to CP. Passengers are allow to stop anywhere in between, just need call out to the bus driver.

As the bus pulled off the GZ highway into the HuangJiang town, one middle age "Hkey" speaking man started talking aloud in Cantonese to a man in early thirties sitting two seat away. That man in 30s started speaking a veri funny accented Mandarin which i could understand. That Hkey man cliamed he happened to work near Laska, Tibet before thus he understand that language.
That tibet man claimed to come south looking for god or "buddha" who could help his family have a son as he already had 2 daughters... This Hkey mand to mentioned abt "wang Da Sin" n "Da yue San" to help. Then this tibet mentioned like he got 2800 goats that could sell for US$200 each etc... Then her took out two "funny notes" and give it to the Hkey as +++en of appreciation for recommending help to him...The Hlkey then claimed that bill " is worth about 590rmb each. Somehow another woman who was seated in the front join in the conversion and offer 300rmb for each note this Tibetian man had...Then another guy who was seated behind me became vcery vocal and show support by taking out a stack of rmb to exhange. Within minutes, this Tibetman was walking round the bus exchanging his notes for 300rmb each... many passengers on the bus became involved...

Sensing something is not right, I immediately signal to Tirak not to join in..he ackned me with a smile....

Coming like a harricane.....Next moment, the grp is gone.... The Hkey, the Tibetian man, the lady client and five other supporters...Together eight of them....just dropped the following stop after creaming from a few greedy China men and ladies...

After sign that that whole group have left.....a few China behind me began to speak out that "it's a con job".... Many victims just kept quiet. Haha... only then did the "didnt pay bus ticket China lady" open her mouth that she knew it was a con job after the grp left so suddenly. She has spent 1500rmb for that 5 notes...Tirak n me had a good look at it....We thinks it's a real legal currency with "500" on it...it's fm Polaksi....Haha..it's probably worth less than the 1000 Indo Ruppiah ...hehe.... There are a few other slience victims on the bus...sobbing in their hearts.....

We asked her to report to the police as the bus company had video tape of those travelling onboard...she said "bu hao yi shi " aka "paiseh lah"....

When we related this incident to the MM we met in CP, our MMs told us that's this trick is so common in Its comes in different form but basically the geese is the same... Captalised on human "greed"...

Like that "stopid China lady" wanting to cheat and save on a 40rmb bus ticket and ending losing out 1500rmb...hehe.... She really deserved it...