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Old 21-11-2005, 09:57 AM
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

Hello Bro's
Bro Banana is corrected. Gong An present is better, you have an upper hand to neg for O/N. I am still in Zhuhai for tonight and will be out tomorrow night. Again, when the Gong An present, you will not have the joy of being many harass by NF and less choices.

I'll try my best tonight to fullfill my fantasy before cross the border tomorrow night. I'll miss Zhuhai deadly... The friendly people, the heavenly place and ...everything that you dream of.

Again, thanks Bro's Banana... I will try Chang An Old World Hotel tonight (a block distance from Kiosks) as you advised.
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Old 21-11-2005, 04:33 PM
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Hello Bro's
Bro Banana is corrected. Gong An present is better, you have an upper hand to neg for O/N. I am still in Zhuhai for tonight and will be out tomorrow night. Again, when the Gong An present, you will not have the joy of being many harass by NF and less choices.

I'll try my best tonight to fullfill my fantasy before cross the border tomorrow night. I'll miss Zhuhai deadly... The friendly people, the heavenly place and ...everything that you dream of.

Again, thanks Bro's Banana... I will try Chang An Old World Hotel tonight (a block distance from Kiosks) as you advised.
enjoy! and empty all ur bullets before u go hoh! rem dont shake head tonite if u r crossing border tmr.
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

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Just went to ZhuHai from 5th to 10 Nov'05. Would share with interested brothers some highlights, strictly my personal view.

On Hotel Rooms ( depending on weekday or weekend ) -At Yue Hai (4-star) or Yindo (5-star)-ard rmb250 to rmb330
It is best to call xiao cai ( senior brothers have earlier introduced) to book the rooms where the rates are better than walk-in. Group of at least 5 has a better discount. Normally, you would have to top up rmb30 per room if you would want a double bed instead of two single beds. However, I personally think that it won't be necessary as you could push the two beds together. Xiao cai ( a Taiwanese operating an agency there ) has a driver / guide called Ah Liang who is very helpful and honest. You would know what i mean when you meet him. A real nice guy, totally unlike the kind of tour guide that one would imagine. He would try to safe guard your interest wherever you go. One thing good abt this agency is that they do not actually take from you but from the mamasan if you book the girls overnite. Hotel room- I think Xiao Cai only take a meagre sum.And you don't lose anything either. I mean, if you were to walk in yourself, there is no saving given back to you. In other word, you also stand to enjoy some form of security from being "ketuk".


Karaoke-Make reservation with Ah Liang and you will enjoy a 40% discount (it is highly unlikely that you would get such discount if you walk in yourself) I think they(mamasan) have some form of arrangement with the tour agency so that their monthly target with the establishment is achievable.

Golden Sand- Lots of girls and this ktv is the newest around with toilets in individual room. TV/Sound system quite advance.Beer at rmb42 per small bottle. Ordered in half-dozen.

Wang Fu- Not new. Sound system obsolete but with lots of tall girls from DongBei cos i understand mummy( BaiLu) is from DongBei too. However, a newly renovated section , i believe should be opened by now. You may try that out.Beer at rmb38 per small bottle and they are also ordered in half-dozen.

Normally, the mamasan would give you six bottles free for every 2 dozens ordered. Pls ask her. Should you choose red wine, they have this buy two get one free. After this, you may request Ah Liang to help bring in from outside. Much cheaper this way and don't worry, this is rather common. Afterall, he knows them well. Room charges are in such a way that a minimum spending is specified depending on the size of the room i.e bigger room you would have to spend more. If you do not exceed the minimum, you would be informed and they will make up with snack/food or additional drinks. Unlike what others said, I was told that tipping the mamasan is not necessary unless you would like to leave an impression. All girls at the above establishments are rmb200 if you don't tabao. Tabao is rmb1000 inclusive of the rmb200 for keeping you company in the ktv. Pls decide by 12 midnite otherwise the girl would dress up and leave as they start work from 7pm. Pls check with girls or mamasan if bbbj is available. Sometimes, the girl would tell you later in your bedroom that they don't do. Alamak!
No discount on overnite to be expected as the girls have to pay mamasan rmb300 to be shared by the mamasan and xiao cai.Afterall, this is the standard rate. I also understand that there is one ktv over there where overnite is at rmb1200. Can't remember the name though.

Traditional Massage
This is the area i don't give my thumb up. Not up to grade and there is one i can't remember where the girls even suggested to us to buy their time and take them out for, mind you, shopping and dinner only not bedtime! What for? when Lian Hua Lu and KTV offer us much better options.

Short time
You may hang around those mini snack bars along Lian Hua Lu, enjoy your beer @rmb10 per small bottle and wait to be asked by the young girls. Activity there start around 2 in the afternoon. If you think your hotel is too far away, then i suggest you proceed to the hotel just opposite those bar. Rates @ rmb50 per hour or rmb60 for 2 hours. Deposit of rmb100 is necessary but refundable. Each St is rmb200 with some tips if service is good. Pls don't spoil market.
Even late at nite say after karaoke session, some girls might just be hanging around in the vivinity of your hotel and you may wish try them. But pls exercise caution on your belongings. Make sure you send her out b4 you bathe. If you want her overnite, remember to negotiate. A friend of mine got one for rmb500 around midnite while another got one @rmb400.


A word of caution though. If you are putting up at Yue Hai Hotel and walking towards Lian Hua Lu, pls be extremely careful of the many pickpockets along this stretch of road. They operate in group and are not mindful even you are in a group of 4 or 5 people. We (5 of us) got trailed for quite a distance before Ah Liang came to our rescue. Finally, on knowing that we have a local around, they backed off.

Food
Shi shen (Food God) and May Flower- Good and affordable selection of seafood and dim sum. In places where seasonal rate is applicable, pls ask the price first if you do not wish to be shocked.

For supper or simple lunch, you may try out those small air-cond restaurant around the vicinity of the above mentioned KTVs. Should be palatable.Don't worry, the good thing abt ZhuHai is that they are all centrally located within walking distance or at most a rmb10 taxi ride.


Taxi ride from Macau airport to border checkpoint is HK50-60. From GongBei i.e after ZhuHai checkpoint, Ah Liang may be contacted to pick you to your hotel. His contact is:0086-13318969176. Try asking him to buy you a local phonecard for it is much cheaper and easier for the local to contact you. One @ rmb100 will do.


Golfing
Will give an update once i have tried it the next time round.

If you require more info, i will be glad to help. One point to note though, I have no interest, whatsoever by disseminating this info, only sharing and i welcome others to share what they have experienced too. Up my point if you like my report. Thanks.
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Old 22-11-2005, 05:14 PM
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

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Hi all,
Just went to ZhuHai from 5th to 10 Nov'05. Would share with interested brothers some highlights, strictly my personal view.

On Hotel Rooms ( depending on weekday or weekend ) -At Yue Hai (4-star) or Yindo (5-star)-ard rmb250 to rmb330
It is best to call xiao cai ( senior brothers have earlier introduced) to book the rooms where the rates are better than walk-in. Group of at least 5 has a better discount...


Golfing
Will give an update once i have tried it the next time round.

If you require more info, i will be glad to help. One point to note though, I have no interest, whatsoever by disseminating this info, only sharing and i welcome others to share what they have experienced too. Up my point if you like my report. Thanks.
is this an advertisment?
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is this an advertisment?
Hidden advertising.

but still nice for the effort to type it all out! thanks.
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but still nice for the effort to type it all out! thanks.
i guess u also screen thru his previous postings.
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i guess u also screen thru his previous postings.
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

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Hi all,
Just went to ZhuHai from 5th to 10 Nov'05. Would share with interested brothers some highlights, strictly my personal view.

On Hotel Rooms ( depending on weekday or weekend ) -At Yue Hai (4-star) or Yindo (5-star)-ard rmb250 to rmb330
It is best to call xiao cai ( senior brothers have earlier introduced) to book the rooms where the rates are better than walk-in. Group of at least 5 has a better discount.

You may hang around those mini snack bars along Lian Hua Lu, enjoy your beer @rmb10 per small bottle and wait to be asked by the young girls. Activity there start around 2 in the afternoon. If you think your hotel is too far away, then i suggest you proceed to the hotel just opposite those bar. Rates @ rmb50 per hour or rmb60 for 2 hours. Deposit of rmb100 is necessary but refundable. Each St is rmb200 with some tips if service is good. Pls don't spoil market.

Even late at nite say after karaoke session, some girls might just be hanging around in the vivinity of your hotel and you may wish try them. But pls exercise caution on your belongings. Make sure you send her out b4 you bathe. If you want her overnite, remember to negotiate. A friend of mine got one for rmb500 around midnite while another got one @rmb400.


A word of caution though. If you are putting up at Yue Hai Hotel and walking towards Lian Hua Lu, pls be extremely careful of the many pickpockets along this stretch of road. They operate in group and are not mindful even you are in a group of 4 or 5 people. We (5 of us) got trailed for quite a distance before Ah Liang came to our rescue. Finally, on knowing that we have a local around, they backed off.

Food
Shi shen (Food God) and May Flower- Good and affordable selection of seafood and dim sum. In places where seasonal rate is applicable, pls ask the price first if you do not wish to be shocked.

For supper or simple lunch, you may try out those small air-cond restaurant around the vicinity of the above mentioned KTVs. Should be palatable.Don't worry, the good thing abt ZhuHai is that they are all centrally located within walking distance or at most a rmb10 taxi ride.


Taxi ride from Macau airport to border checkpoint is HK50-60. From GongBei i.e after ZhuHai checkpoint,

Golfing
Will give an update once i have tried it the next time round.

If you require more info, i will be glad to help. One point to note though, I have no interest, whatsoever by disseminating this info, only sharing and i welcome others to share what they have experienced too. Up my point if you like my report. Thanks.
One of the best info on ZH so far.

Very useful and truthful information. Also hightlighted a no. of "true value" stuff. Havent see any comperhensive report on ZH for a long while liao...

Well done bro. Up yr points...

Keep yr info on the golf cuming.....I'm looking forward to yr rpt after yr next trip.

Many thanks for sharing.....
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One of the best info on ZH so far.

Very useful and truthful information. Also hightlighted a no. of "true value" stuff. Havent see any comperhensive report on ZH for a long while liao...

Well done bro. Up yr points...

Keep yr info on the golf cuming.....I'm looking forward to yr rpt after yr next trip.

Many thanks for sharing.....

"true value" stuff mah!

wait... hmm... ya hoh! really true value stuff after u have edited his original posting and repost it. thanks bro sino!
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"true value stuff" Service Pack 1

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On Hotel Rooms ( depending on weekday or weekend ) -At Yue Hai (4-star) or Yindo (5-star)-ard rmb250 to rmb330
It is best to call xiao cai ( senior brothers have earlier introduced) to book the rooms where the rates are better than walk-in. Group of at least 5 has a better discount. Normally, you would have to top up rmb30 per room if you would want a double bed instead of two single beds. However, I personally think that it won't be necessary as you could push the two beds together.
1. Yuehai got some rooms renovated liao!

2. why go thru all the top up and hassle and pay so much for an old room. wat single wat double bed, and still have to form a group of 5. just go across chang'an good world hotel and ask for the newly renovated "see thru bathroom" room.


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Karaoke-Make reservation with Ah Liang and you will enjoy a 40% discount (it is highly unlikely that you would get such discount if you walk in yourself) I think they(mamasan) have some form of arrangement with the tour agency so that their monthly target with the establishment is achievable.
no 40% then choose another ktv loh. if cannot bring ur own bottles in, change another ktv lah!

how come no mention of "tian di ren jian". they give agency the highest commission for booking.


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Golden Sand- Lots of girls and this ktv is the newest around with toilets in individual room. TV/Sound system quite advance.Beer at rmb42 per small bottle. Ordered in half-dozen.
new renovation.

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Traditional Massage
This is the area i don't give my thumb up. Not up to grade and there is one i can't remember where the girls even suggested to us to buy their time and take them out for, mind you, shopping and dinner only not bedtime! What for? when Lian Hua Lu and KTV offer us much better options.
LHL , KTV got good commission wat, wat for recommend massage or sona where commission is much lesser.

want good commission try Dragon Union Hotel.

care to give me direction of this massage ctr u been to, i will find the name and we blacklist here.

want good massage, go "fu kang". present recommendation for sona go "Dragon Union Hotel" and chang'an good world hotel"


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Short time
You may hang around those mini snack bars along Lian Hua Lu, enjoy your beer @rmb10 per small bottle and wait to be asked by the young girls. Activity there start around 2 in the afternoon. If you think your hotel is too far away, then i suggest you proceed to the hotel just opposite those bar. Rates @ rmb50 per hour or rmb60 for 2 hours. Deposit of rmb100 is necessary but refundable. Each St is rmb200 with some tips if service is good. Pls don't spoil market.
when order beer rem to ask for ur free peanuts!

taiwanese are the one that usually spoil mkt. they pay double to the gals. sg and msian are the budget types. calculate with our formula and pay them accordingly.

alternatively, pick ur gals in LHL and bring them to the bar street (jiu ba jie) something like our boat quay without the river. most got live performance, no XXX ok!


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Even late at nite say after karaoke session, some girls might just be hanging around in the vivinity of your hotel and you may wish try them. But pls exercise caution on your belongings. Make sure you send her out b4 you bathe. If you want her overnite, remember to negotiate. A friend of mine got one for rmb500 around midnite while another got one @rmb400.
pls take note, the keyword is "midnight".


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Food
Shi shen (Food God) and May Flower- Good and affordable selection of seafood and dim sum. In places where seasonal rate is applicable, pls ask the price first if you do not wish to be shocked.
persoanlly i dont like the food in May Flower. expensive and not nice. i recommend Lianhua restaurant, 2nd floor of gongbei ming'an hotel. cheap and nice and got personal room some more. 2 ppl also can.

as for tim sum, my favourite. my 2 fav are... go so many time dont even know the names of the makan places. will do a SP1 update 1.1 on this.

my fav makan places (restaurants around LHL)
1. lao sichuan (bro weeger, u may wannna add a few points on the pig's leg we have)

2. Blue Mountain coffee


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Taxi ride from Macau airport to border checkpoint is HK50-60. From GongBei i.e after ZhuHai checkpoint, Ah Liang may be contacted to pick you to your hotel. His contact is:0086-13318969176. Try asking him to buy you a local phonecard for it is much cheaper and easier for the local to contact you. One @ rmb100 will do.
from gongbei, once u pass the custom check out of the building (opposite of DFS and before macau checkpoint), on your left u will see a travel agancy. go in and tell them u want to go airport and they will take u there for only HK$35.

is a mini-bus of about 10-15 ppl seating capacity. waiting time average is less than 10 min. frequency is fast. defintely a better option and cheaper. taxi queue may be long if u happen to be waiting during peak hrs. and u avoid being merry-go-round by taxi driver and end up HK100


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Golfing
Will give an update once i have tried it the next time round.
golfing? i only play pocket golf! hee hee
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VISA problems?

sg ppl are blessed with our passport. go everywhere so easy go easy come.

but for ppl from msia, indonesia, taiwan, etc, tat wanna extend stay in ZH and macau or cross border problem, may require to re-apply visa again.

so anybody want info in this area? where to do it, how to do it, pay who to do it, how much to do it?
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Bro Banana,
My report was strictly derived from my personal experience which I did mentioned. I am not about to challenge your authority in LHL. Pls do not get it wrong. It is also because of this that i have refrained myself from writing FRs or sharing report before. Have seen so many samster argueing in the forum over the years and I personally would not want to be involved as it is a waste of time. We r not young. No offence,Mind me asking how old you are?

It was written in the spirit of sharing and not advertising. Have you ever thought that your remarks could be very disturbing to ppl who spend time writing? Think abt it. I do not mean to be rude. What do i get in return? Having to spend time writing now to explain?

I have only written a handful of postings. And I do not understand if there was anything wrong with them as suggested by you.

Anyway, i believe if you have better recommendation, there is always a more constructive way to put them across.

It may not help but i hope this will clear any doubt that you may have.

I personally like the place and shall revisit LHL probably after CNY. If you don't mind me I would like to have beer with you then.
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Bro Banana,
My report was strictly derived from my personal experience which I did mentioned. I am not about to challenge your authority in LHL. ....

Anyway, i believe if you have better recommendation, there is always a more constructive way to put them across.....

I personally like the place and shall revisit LHL probably after CNY. If you don't mind me I would like to have beer with you then.
Dun worry pal. We should be used to differences in opinions or facts in forums such as this one. No one is an authority in LHL since places like ZH will keep evolving. Keep contributing if you can. Many of us are street-wise enough to be wary about anything we read from the internet. ZH is a charming city. With these MMs, this can be a real nice place to hang out.
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My report was strictly derived from my personal experience which I did mentioned. I am not about to challenge your authority in LHL. Pls do not get...
i m not an authority here. but if u r in trouble here, i can get the authority to get u out of trouble.

is just the way u post sound like a TV Media advertisment, kind of like the paid testimonials.

like L2B said, we are street-wise. i didnt want to Service Pack on your posting until somebody commented.

interestingly, this macau/ZH thread has been interrogated on it integrity, time and time again. and yet these ppl that question the creditability of it are not residential cheongsters in macau/ZH but from another town.

interestingly again, also many 10-pointers like to post trade info in this macau/ZH thread. ppl that post in this macau/ZH are mostly passer-by.

veri interestingly again, the CP thread has no much info on how the trade works and how the commission is distributed. how come no question on why when we go CP, always stay in the recommended hotel. cheong amazon and dont stay in Versailles Hotel. CP... so well kept... hmm and yet this thread has been bombarded with it.

not trying to start a flame war, but to pop a few questions for the street-wise bros to ponder.

if u hang out enough in SB, u will know how to post in this SB culture. just like now, i stay in ZH dont post info ppl complain, i post ppl also complain. welcome to SB.

so not to worry, after all these fcuk crap on the forum, at the end of the day we still gather and cheong together as one.

so i m just doing my part, to sort out fact and hearsay to make this thread ppl can rely on it. that's my objective.

last but not least, thank you for ur effort for posting, though ur english sound Old England. keep it up and do not be discourage. u see my nice decoration? coming to 4000 postings, 400 plus points, etc. it doesnt come free like some beggers begging for points, posting porn to redeem points, etc (oops kana zap soon!) i have gone thru flame wars, kana sting operation, politics, etc... and here am i, still surviving in this forum. u can check with bro JT and gangs how i got my hard earn points, (toiling thru the nite posting info, building friendship (do make enemy too), recee places, etc.), netural guy; no e-gang, one-man army always fighting on my own. just like the jedi knights, fighting for the republic.

after all this is the fun and thrill of SB.



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Originally Posted by foxtrota168
I personally like the place and shall revisit LHL probably after CNY. If you don't mind me I would like to have beer with you then.
y dont u come over CNY. we can play fireworks together. miss my childhood! (hint! hint! my age)
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