Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

[SureScore]

Originally Posted by jackbl

If u chiong JC/GL with me for 3 months and after that u still think of your GF then perhaps u really miss her

Bro jackbl, that's a very good gesture. If I am Mao86, I will take it and open my eyes to learn Vn culture and their kc game.

Bro KT, please show him the ropes on kc game.

[jackbl]

U wanna join in? On 12th onwards till 31st, i can be on leave for 7 days, clearing leave

Originally Posted by SureScore

Bro jackbl, that's a very good gesture. If I am Mao86, I will take it and open my eyes to learn Vn culture and their kc game.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by chanyboy

I've met a Vn couple - vn boy & ger in their early 20s - bought a private unit, staying together here in Sg. Nice ger (pretty, in fact!), normal young-man (like any of our decent 20+ guy). I reckon, many gd nice Vn gers - low chance of hooking up with Sg guys, they would go for nice/handsome Vn guys oredi...

The guy maybe is a Viet kieu...some of these Viet Kieus are going back to marry these VB...so these Viet Kieus are able to select the swee swee juicy syt from the villages...

Reason being these Viet kieus had problem marrying the gals from their adopted countries be it US, Canada, Aus...sure you knew the reason as boat ppl stories...

[SureScore]

Originally Posted by jackbl

U wanna join in? On 12th onwards till 31st, i can be on leave for 7 days, clearing leave

Thank you for your invite. I had to travel during that period and will try to arrange my schedule to see if fits.

[mutantchicken]

Originally Posted by cashier

not necessary, just noe that as a singapore man, u already have the advantage but need to be more man and bad than in singapore. city gals also can sian de, just know what todo at the righttime..

dun need be nice all the time. just be nice when u feel like. and normal at times. angry at times. demanding at times.. it is hard to say. it needs practice and more practice.

singapore man are wimpy becoz they are nice all the time and let woman decide their mood. the key is that we sway their mood not the other way round. 80% we decide 20%they decide.

I am not saying we should behave like ass but behave like a man who knows what he wants and Gets what he wants. Never ever let a woman feel that their pussy can tame you.

I will add my 2 cents into this discussion...but firstly ill give a brief description of myself....im in my 30's a viet kieu, though admittedly im a bananna...totally out of touch with my vietnamese and chinese heritage, more australian than id like to think...so im not in synch with the asian way of doing things....however im highly educated with degrees in the medical field (not a Gp though) and in Law, im financially independent earning over 200k AUD a year. I go the gym daily so im athletic and reasonably attractive.

This is not to advertise or boast...so my experience is that it has not been hard for me to attract girls with education, looks or income, however, teh problem lies in attracting teh right type of girl...some one who isnt selfish and self absorbed, someone who doesnt see me as a walking atm etc, who is willing to contribute as well as take.

My opinion about singapore guys is that yes u are wimpy...in someways you have created the problem u find yourself in and then u export this problem my going overseas. The problem is that u think u can buy a girls affection and attention. For example i met some singaporeans in HCM and he was told that the standard tip was 100k, instead he thought if he gave an extra 50k she would like him and go out with him, instead she just took the money and still refused. I know also another singaporean who is quite generous with his money and the girls like him for that, but away from him they are quite disrespectful towards him.

I think we as men should work on improving ourselves, ie be smarter, healthier more financially independedent, dont think u can compensate for ur inadequacies by handing out cash, as all that will do is make the less intelligent girls familiar with this attitude like a pavlovian dog.

I think its crazy that there is a culture where if a girl sits with you for 5 mins u tip her 20 bucks and some are tipping 50 bucks and these are the same guys who are complaining about little thinks like a 50k bank loan. I saw a sillypore very wimpy and geeky looking go up to a cute viet girl on geyalnd road, chat with her buy her dinner and then afterwards give her some tips, later she went into mask without him and got more tips for just sitting and letting other guys hug her. I mean how affection starved are u guys that u create a system where average girls can make 200 bucks a nite by just allowing guys to buy her drinks and buy her dinner. I mean i know that doesnt happen in aust or in vietnam or in any country i know. If i put myself in any girls shoes i cant imagine how i could respect men that allow me to walk over them as such.

Guys get a spine, improve yourself, and stop being a overweight low educated wimp thinking that your comparable wealth compared to a local vietnamese will win u the girl, because what u havent won is her respect or her heart and once she has got what she wanted she will dump you and find a more suitable man.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by SureScore

Bro KT, please show him the ropes on kc game.

I dun want to ruin him...
he cannot handle this 1 gal already, how to handle the game.

KC game... it is just about going to the pub and flirt with the gals.

Originally Posted by mutantchicken

Guys get a spine, improve yourself, and stop being a overweight low educated wimp thinking that your comparable wealth compared to a local vietnamese will win u the girl

oh shit... I am overweight after weeks of partying.

[SingViet]

Originally Posted by mutantchicken

Guys get a spine, improve yourself, and stop being a overweight low educated wimp thinking that your comparable wealth compared to a local vietnamese will win u the girl, because what u havent won is her respect or her heart and once she has got what she wanted she will dump you and find a more suitable man.

The first part of your message do make some sense and how you describe yourself to be very educated and earns a reasonable amount of renumeration. But i do not agree in any part on how you put across this final part of your statement. Different countries have different cultures. Asia is very much different from the western world. Westerners often look down on asians , thinking that asians are losers and that westerners are always the best. Thru the years, we have seen how the world economies have changed. Although the westerners are trying hard to feel `special', we cannot but feel sad for them as the western world are losing out to rising asia. I am not trained in law, this cannot write as well as you. But i hold postgraduate degrees in Finance from top UK universities. I stayed in Uk for several years pursuing my studies and also have my fair share of years more than 4 staying in HCM City Vietnam. I have businesses in both Singapore and Vietnam, stays in a S$2.5 million landed property, 2 maids and owns 2 cars. I travel monthly by business class to HCM City and have a reasonable amount of income that triple yours easily. Not to continue listing down but i do not find the need to pass insults to fellow samsters. The reason why westerns, including Australians, are targets of terrorism are often linked to their lack of humility.

Your roots are asian and you should try to shape your thinking according to asian cultures. Think of how your father or grand father first landed in Australia and how they were looked down by the white australians. Why put your fellow asians thru the same type of insult again. Asian is asian, no matter how you try to BANANA, you are still an asian to the whites.

Listing down your ideas and sharing it with others is good, but to add insults and sacastic remarks is a big NO NO here.

I always welcome your contributions here in this thread but respect given to others is a good way of making your life more meaningful.

Cheers

[Honey Boon]

need so long meh? I guarantee you, after 3 nights, he will forget his older em in hcm

Originally Posted by jackbl

If u chiong JC/GL with me for 3 months and after that u still think of your GF then perhaps u really miss her

[Honey Boon]

my ex-boss used to tell me, what's so great about the expat ang mo .... the fact that they are here in Asia because they are losers back home, hahaha..

Ang mo only look slightly "greater" than us in swimming pool or gym changing room nia, other than that, what so great about the Whites

Originally Posted by SingViet

Asian is asian, no matter how you try to BANANA, you are still an asian to the whites.

[LCL7788]

Originally Posted by mutantchicken

..... in someways you have created the problem u find yourself in and then u export this problem my going overseas. The problem is that u think u can buy a girls affection and attention ....

.... I mean how affection starved are u guys that u create a system where average girls can make 200 bucks a nite by just allowing guys to buy her drinks and buy her dinner. I mean i know that doesnt happen in aust or in vietnam or in any country i know...

.. Guys get a spine, improve yourself, and stop being a overweight low educated wimp thinking that your comparable wealth compared to a local vietnamese will win u the girl, because what u havent won is her respect or her heart...

Bro

Wait a minute, I thought we were talking about whores here.

At least its not made clear in your post. There are 'normal' women be they city slickers or peasant girls and then there are the whores.
One set of rules and strategies for one group cannot be applied to the other.

With hookers and other kinds of broads, why would you bother to charm them with your wit, intelligence, character or whatever.
Its a commercial bonk. Thatz it. Thatz all. Thinking too much bout how to 'up' them is just moronic.
And a total waste of time.
It might be slightly diff if you're looking for more GFE sort of ROI but at the end of the day its your wallet doing all the talking and working not your irresistible magnetic personality.
Or lack thereof.

In a commercial sex situation of cuz you can buy a whore's attention and affection. No doubt its all fake but whatever you pay out should also be matched with a payback.
Is there anything wrong with thinking like this?
An empathic NO.

And its not a lion city sinkie thing either.
You go to places like Bangkok, Phuket, Macau, Guangzhou, HCMC, Manila and you tell me you dont see money being exchanged in the pursuit of pussy?
You obviously need to get some international perspective lah.
With a whore there is no need to win their respect.
Oei!! not as if you're going to be bosom buddies right?
Just be nice enough to them, pay them and tip them and thatz all the respect you ought to pay.
Anyone pretending otherwise is just a sucker waiting for a KC trap.

& Dont use examples of whores and commercial sex situations and use them to extrapolate something else lah. very pointless and boliao lor.

But I do agree with you that this low class material wealth can buy anything sort of thinking isnt good at all.

Some bros are so used to dealing with whores that they think everyone in life can be treated like that.
They think that everyone and everything has a price tag.
That throwing money after something will solve everything.
With a whore maybe...
But with real life people???

Anyway cunts who think like this are not just restricted to Singapore. You think whites dont think like that? Go to Soi Cowboy and check out the washout parade of the filthy farangs.
And Vietnamese? Haven't you been to commercial sex joints in Vietnam frequented by the locals?
I can assure you many of them have the same damaged mentality which they bring home and help propagate a variety of social ills.

The bottomline is simple.
Be honest and clear about what you want but also know what is in front of you.
Dont go chase the skirt tails of some whore and then pretend it is romance.
That is just short sightedness and idiocy.
If there are guys throwing money after whores I assume its because they have some ROI in mind so cant really comment.
As long as they are not deluded I think its fine.
But if you cant distinguish between a commercial bonk and a real romance, a whore and a real person, fantasy and reality, you shouldnt be playing this game.
Even if you have all the credentials in the world.


Wah piang!
Nowadays post must also make lengthy references about your CV is it?
As if anyone will swallow them without a pinch of salt and some laughter.
How about some certified character references next? Just to settle the issue.

Whatz with all the undeserved chest thumping?
No need to posture and make vague claims that you are better than the average samster also mah.
We're all here to share isnt that enough?
Cuz it isnt even a piss take nor is there a trace of humor.
All this pai sui a bit unnecessary if you ask me.

Originally Posted by SingViet

...But i do not agree in any part on how you put across this final part of your statement. Different countries have different cultures. Asia is very much different from the western world. Westerners often look down on asians , thinking that asians are losers and that westerners are always the best. Thru the years, we have seen how the world economies have changed. Although the westerners are trying hard to feel `special', we cannot but feel sad for them as the western world are losing out to rising asia...

..The reason why westerns, including Australians, are targets of terrorism are often linked to their lack of humility.

...Your roots are asian and you should try to shape your thinking according to asian cultures. Think of how your father or grand father first landed in Australia and how they were looked down by the white australians. Asian is asian, no matter how you try to BANANA, you are still an asian to the whites. ..

Bro

No offence hor I do agree with some of the things you said but some of the rest also I feel is not quite right lah.

'Westerners' have always looked down on Asians?
what's your idea of Asia in the first place?
I know many Sinkies who seem to think it excludes south and west asia for example.
They are also quite happy to be racist and to look down on their 'fellow asians' too leh. Just look at how our Bangla and indian guest workers are treated by many Chinese (or even Indian) Sinkies.
So much for 'Asian Solidarity" then.

Are we so "asian' to begin with meh?
C'mon lah this forum is in a Western language right?
The financial system that underpins the global economy is a Western product. Capitalism as we know it developed in the West first. You and I all studied in an education system that was first devised in the West. The kind of bureaucracy and gov we are accustomed to are all western constructs. As are our laws, the form of our courts and whatever is codified to protect our inalienable individual rights.
I for one and thankful to the West.
Colonialism was long, racist and painful but is that the whole story?
Better the enlightenment and modernity and democracy and socialism than the jackboot of Asian despotism. Any day.
Yet "our" leaders tell us they are diff from us and that we cant incorporate things like fundamental rights into our society.
These things are not "western" anymore they are universal ideals.
The sun may yet set on the west but long may the ideals they bequeathed MANKIND live.

That whole paradigm about east is east and west is west just doesnt make the cut anymore.
While the west might be 'orientalist', many of 'us' in the east are also 'occidentalist'.
If one current is racist so is the other.

Asian is Asian and cant be changed?
Dont think so.
If you have ang mor buddies you know that they can see beyond your skin color too. And so can 'we'. bcuz we are all human. And only just that. Doesnt get any simpler.
It is a matter of whether you want to buy into the racist bullshit or not.
Anyway culture is global this day whether you live in Sinkieland, Oz or VN...it is how you respond to it.
Roots? Global culture has become and IS a part of our roots TOO.

Put it this way if the whites of the west were so evil and racist why do so many asians consistently want to make it their home?
And about the Boat People....Isnt it ironic that the racist west welcomed them with open arms when the rest of Asia was quite content to put up fences and push them away?
just ask all the Vietnamese happily (or not) settled in Oz, Canada, the States, UK, France etc.
There are bad racist hats everywhere but isolated minority voices do not decide the whole plot.
If some 'westerners' are racist they dont enjoy the monopoly. Think sinkies are not racist? Look out of the window and take a good glance.

I actually found your comment on how the West's lack of humility to have invited terrorism very disturbing.
Whether you buy theories of blowback or not, nothing justifies the taking of innocent civilian lives for the purpose of creating an atmosphere of terror, whether these are Pakis who kanna bombed by some UAV by mistake or Londoners blasted to bits on the Tube.

And its not as if the West is the only one occasionally guilty of being hao lian.
Did you check out China's gross n crass display on the 60th anniv of the PRC earlier last month? Wherez the humility which some think is an Asian quality? Absolutely none of it was visible.
If being hao lian is an excuse for reprisal maybe we should forgive the uyghurs for rioting against the han chinese.
Want to bitch about historical crimes also asians can do aplenty amongst themselves.
If Asians were so peace loving China wouldnt have invaded Tibet and Vietnam last century. And Japan wouldnt have embarked on their destructive wars of expansion.
not everything can be blamed on the West.
Bitch about the past? It'll never come to a good end anyway.

I dont think we are that diff from the west.
We all aspire to the same things.
Sure there are some differences here and there but there are many commonalities as well.
There was a good exchange about essentialist thinking a few pages earlier and I cant add cuz I'm a history grad and not into philosophy, sociology or cultural theory but I think its good that we avoid this kind of black and white thinking and way of viewing everything.
To borrow an Eastern concept it makes for bad karma.


pardon me for the long rant. I just cant take racism or arrogance in any form lah. Anyway we all agree to disagree so no hard feelingz..

[mao86]

Originally Posted by jackbl

If u chiong JC/GL with me for 3 months and after that u still think of your GF then perhaps u really miss her

wah but nw i old liaoz reali no mood to chiong.. dunoe y also haiz .. cos i start chiong at an early age. I still gt go chiong but reali no mood. just sit there tok then @@ and go hm slp le..

[mao86]

any wai guess that u guys here also can communicate in vietnamese.. cos u r all chiongster. anywae like u guys @@ lah i tink back a xiao didi like mi 23 yrs old speaking abit vietnamese.. wah maijiam scarcifice alot of ting to learnt it .. haiz... reali too young. Everydae now she call mi and we tok n tok.. i also dunoe y.. seems like i into the hole.. she even wanna have a baby wif mi..

[SingViet]

Originally Posted by mao86

wah but nw i old liaoz reali no mood to chiong.. dunoe y also haiz .. cos i start chiong at an early age. I still gt go chiong but reali no mood. just sit there tok then @@ and go hm slp le..

Is it your english no good? or people of your generation like to use all these short forms that make reading almost impossible

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by mao86

any wai guess that u guys here also can communicate in vietnamese.. cos u r all chiongster. anywae like u guys @@ lah i tink back a xiao didi like mi 23 yrs old speaking abit vietnamese.. wah maijiam scarcifice alot of ting to learnt it .. haiz... reali too young. Everydae now she call mi and we tok n tok.. i also dunoe y.. seems like i into the hole.. she even wanna have a baby wif mi..

Young man...felt old at 23 yrs old...you are madly in love...nothing in this world seems to be of any importance to you now...give you another 10 prettiest pussy dun thing you bother to look at now...because your heart and soul is with her in vietnam...for your info all the viet gals are willing to give birth to babies for their loves...this is very common and part of their kc game...

[mao86]

Originally Posted by SingViet

Is it your english no good? or people of your generation like to use all these short forms that make reading almost impossible

wah Very soory.. now adays all of us use short cut le.. lazy type in full.
I meanz that i still went chiong nowadaes but seldom le the point is that i just sit dwn there see here and there after which i would head home to sleep. Really want to find out why i am so attracted to vietnam. Is it i kana the vietnam rose disease.. whaahahha.. btw Brother u married vietnamese wife ?