BDSM vs SM experiences

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hi everyone.
I wonder how common bdsm is. Are there at least 25% or 50% of people have bdsm desires, or am I just the rare few.
I actually got to know a girl with bdsm desires from the old mirc chat. Then later a FL. And later, a friend even. In between, I offered myself to others for bdsm - I had this thought that if i enjoy having a slave, then how about i let someone enjoy me, but it wasn't easy.

Do u guys have bdsm experiences?

I searched bdsm on sammyboy, and found a big thread about paid bdsm to some female dommes. But to me, if i offer myself to someone for bdsm, it will be because I want that person to enjoy something, not cos I want to experience it.

BDSM vs SM
I realised that it is not so much of causing pain (like brutal caning) that I enjoy, but the power I get from obedience. I think one of the most arousing and cruel things I did was to make my friend hold herself in a pushup posture. Then I held a battery operated electric fly-swatter with live mesh exposed which I could used to shock her with. I enjoyed so much watching her body shake in fear as I brought the mesh near her. She was never more beautiful and arousing to me than at the point. That mixture of determination and fear on her face - she was so scard of the mesh, yet she still volutarily held her body there in submission - that made me feel so good.

We had sex after that for the first time. I didn't actually know at the start of the session of sex was something that was on the table. [ ... ]

I enjoyed her in many other ways too - very cruel ways, though rarely does it involved bondage and never any brutal type of whipping or caning. I defined a special kneeling posture for her - naked, hands behind her back or neck, knees wide apart. Sitting next to her when she is kneeling like that makes me feel so comfortable. After many minutes, the pain became more visible, and she is struggling harder to hold herself in the strict posture. But all the while, I could freely access her body, and watching her struggle to put herself in a posture of obedience to me is just so arousing.

ON THE OTHER SIDE
I later talked to a bisexual guy on a chat , and shared about what I did. He said it sounded really enjoyable and wish he could enjoy that too. When he said that, I knew that I should offer myself. I offered myself to him and we set a time to meet. While packing my stuff, I took the electrical shocking device to try on myself. I pressed the button and tried to press the mesh on my own skin. I initially couldn't bring myself to do it, but I tried to pschye myself It too me a while before I could bring myself to do it in the most careful manner. The shock jolt my body and I couldn't do it again. At that moment, I wanted to pull out.

A hours later, I was at his place, and I was in the same pushup posture that cerelia was in; and that same device I used to shock her is being casually and cruelly touched against my exposed skin. my whole body jerked up in response, and soon, I was shaking in fear as he ran it through my body. I think I felt exactly as cerelia felt at that instant - i was so scared that my body was shaking involuntarily as the device came near, yet I so much wanted to let him have this pleasure.


STARTING OUT
That's how I really like my sessions, one person in control of the other person, one person naked and struggling while the other comfortable in every way; one person denied of freedom while the other have full freedom.

In an ideal situation, like with my friend, we know and trust each other, and we explore the session 'open'. It started with somewhat accidental / joking discovery of each other's interest. We met up to talk about it, and we both wanted to do it but it was just awkward, and nothing happened.

The next time we met, we started off the conversation with her in a kneeling posture (clothed). That was so erotic, talking to her like that. As we talked abit about our desires, I began to start inching towards her and touching her.

A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS
I try to imagine a session where I chat with someone about SM. Initially, want to have a conversation to know more about that person, what he likes and dislikes, and see if you are compatible. But this conversation is down with the slave in a kneeling naked posture while master sits. It's a more comfortable way for the master to have a conversation, esp if the master is new or shy as well.

Given a choice, I would want to enjoy a girl this way. And to be able to find opportunities for these enjoyments is amazing. It is not so much the act of shocking or causing pain, but the act of obedience and submission that feels really good, especially when both are placed in asymmetrical posture. There were some sessions that were more directed towards fulfillment of her desires, and others more towards mine, though we were fortunate to have common elements we enjoyed (like the shocking story is like 100% mine. But she said this, "knowing that u have something so cruel, and I was able to withstand it all to ur fulfillment, that was erotic to me too. but i was really really scared of it."

I see some bondage porn where the submissive is almost totally enjoying herself, craving for more - somehow these don't appeal to me. I think the submissive needs to be brave enough to allow her master pleasures that he/she is not comfortable with, or even afraid of. The lack of physical restraints put confidence into the submissive because she can 'opt out' anytime. But it also makes it more difficult because the slave must stay by his or her own willpower.

ON BERATING WORDS
Some people, I think like strong language used on the slave. I'm somewhat opposite, and it does feel quite depraved to be appreciating her while continuing to torment her.

BISEXUAL
The most typical way of thinking of a slave-master pair is a female as the slave, holding herself in a stressful posture naked, with the male as the master, enjoying her anyway he wishes until when he decides he wants to have sex with her. Though I'm not gay, and I wouldn't otherwise enjoy any guy-guy r/s, but I do like to be the slave for someone, and if that person is a guy, I'm willing.


WHY I'M SHARING
I guess to some ppl seasoned in this scene, what I described is really very mild. But everyone has their own experience I suppose. The description of these sessions are just a couple of snippets from what we have done together, but I think they are quite different from others, based on brief reading of the stories around or looking at porn.

Don't ask me for girl's contact (that's how these threads tend to gravitate towards). But I guess in the rare situations a guy is looking for something to try with another guy, I may be open. Do tell me a bit a bout what you liked about what I talked about, what u din, or what u personally like I din cover.

It's not so much a meetup thread though, I just like to hear what you guys/gals think, cos I think what i described are not the typical bdsm stuff ppl think about (and bdsm isn't typical to begin with).

[illusions]

Hi Yanni,

Thanks for all that you have let me enjoy. The first time we had sex, as I was thrusting into you, you held me and asked me to slap you. Later, you told me that 'decent guys have the most depraved fantasies.' We talked about the porn we liked. For the first time, I told anyone about the dark and depraved types of videos I sometimes watch. You offered yourself to fulfil my deep, dark desires.

One of the first thing I taught you is the kneeling posture. Even when I just want to have a chat with you, I want you naked and kneeling with your hands behind you. I like how this posture puts you in a humiliatingly submissive position beneath me. I remember how much I enjoy slapping you in that posture even ask I teach you to pleasure my shaft with your mouth. Even while being slapped, you would still continue seeking to maximise my sexual pleasure with your mouth.

My favorite was the punish posture I put you on the table. It is the same kneeling posture with your hands behind, except that you are on display on a low table. Then I sat on the bed and watch you. I really enjoy how you hold yourself in the increasingly stressful posture. Watching you force yourself to stay in the cruel posture just to obey me is so cute.

You stayed there longer than I expected. I could see your body trembling and sweating by the time you started to beg. On one hand, you wanted to be my slave and to give me pleasure through your obedience. On the other hand, your naked, kneeling body is trembling in stress and pain of the cruel kneeling posture.

You have never begged me before no matter what I did to you, so I thought that a fun thing to do to you is to put you in a stress posture and just wait.

"Please, it's very painful.." I still remember your words. I let you beg for a while, enjoying it. Part of me wanted to relief you of your 'torture' and have mutual, sexual pleasure with you. But the darker side of me won out.

I eventually came over to your side. Standing beside you felt so good - your naked body, kneeling, shaking in pain, but held there simply because I want you to. And your expression, looking at me with an expression of sheer begging. I started kissing you passionately, holding your trembling body in my arms as I did so.

In so many ways, you have put yourself in cruel or humiliating postures to fulfill my desires. But now, meeting you again after these years, it does feel kind of strange.

[JoeHope]

Sex is supposed to be an enjoyable experience between 2 consenting adults .

[hotbo]

Originally Posted by JoeHope

Sex is supposed to be an enjoyable experience between 2 consenting adults .

Fully agreed .

[RobertTheBruce]

Originally Posted by JoeHope

Sex is supposed to be an enjoyable experience between 2 consenting adults .

Correct especially when it comes to bdsm as long as both parties agree its fine

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Part 1. Rachel

Kneeling on the floor, Rachel held her body in a posture of submission and display. Her hands are held behind her to present her nubile body to her master. Her knees wide apart and feet touching form three points of contact with the ground on which her beautiful naked body rests, pressing painfully on her legs and knees. But she has to hold herself that way to fulfill her master's sexual desires.

Denied of using her hands for support, the posture keeps her in a state of constant discomfort with no way to find relief. This pressure stresses Rachel's toned body increasingly and gradually squeezes out every ounce of her inner beauty and determination. It teaches her that obedience is difficult, and giving pleasure, even just visual pleasure, requires sacrifice.

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Pt 2 Marcus

In contrast to Rachel, Marcus is seated comfortably, and in full view of Rachel's body. Rachel's body is slender yet full, her soft toned body amazingly highlighted in her posture of constant stress. In spite of her discomfort, Rachel smiles sweetly at Marcus as they exchange occasional words. If you could hear and not see the scenerio, you might think they were just two friends chilling over coffee. But that's the way Marcus has trained Rachel to be - a slave-friend.

There are times when Marcus just want her slave-friend, to hold her beautiful naked body in this way to chat with him or keep him company. There are other times when this kneeling posture she holds is in a ideal position for her to pleasure him orally till he climax. The possibilities are endless when you have a slave-friend like Rachel responding in perfect obedience to you.

Today, he wasn't really sure what he wanted. While he decides, Rachel will have to kneel in wait....

"This is much better than 50 shades of gray, isn't it?" Marcus broke the silence.

"For you or for me?" Rachel replied.

"For me, I guess. You were so amazing last session. What about you?"

By now, Rachel's leg muscles are trembling slightly from the stress, and beads of sweat forming on her body. At the mention of last session, Rachel shuddered in fear, yet her determination took over. She tried her best to say something brave and casual.

"You know, if you ever find yourself in this screwed up position tortured by someone, I really like to be there to see. "

Marcus smiled at the answer. Not only is this girl beautiful and obedient. Even while torturing her in this asymmetrical CMNF endurance posture, she can still make me laugh.

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