Jakarta Info thread

[RobbyChin]

Originally Posted by Setzer

Then better you don't go to indonesia. Not that they don't have pretty girls, but your logic is abit warped. is like going china and asked to eat western food. People usually go to a country and taste their local food, not the opposite.

And not sure who warned you, but I think that person doesn't know about jakarta at all anyway this thread has most of the information you need, so just spend some time reading for a better understanding.

TLDR: Jakarta is similar to BKK, you want imports... then you pay premium.

Chill lah bro. I’m genuinely asking and not attacking anyone so no need to get so defensive abt Jakarta quality. I would rather talk facts than get emotional. I have read most of the thread here as well as in other forums. I know that you r a Jakarta old hand who also post reviews on SMF so thks for all that info, Would you say that the Delta Spa videos are accurate of the girls that are actually offered?

As for Bangkok, I have been going there for almost 20 years & have been happy w/ the quality so never had a need to resort to imports there. Anyway i doubt that Viet or Indon girls can command 2x the price in BKK whereas in Jakarta, the fact is the Viet/Thai girls are able to charge 2x the price of locals at top places like 1001.

[Setzer]

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

Chill lah bro. I’m genuinely asking and not attacking anyone so no need to get so defensive abt Jakarta quality. I would rather talk facts than get emotional. I have read most of the thread here as well as in other forums. I know that you r a Jakarta old hand who also post reviews on SMF so thks for all that info

As for Bangkok, I have been going there for almost 20 years & have been happy w/ the quality so never had a need to resort to imports there.

I'm chilled, no need to worry and I'm not being defensive, just answering to you as it is.

You said

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

"Maybe I’m too traditional chinese & cannot appreciate that Malay Indon look but will Pool 1001 or Malio have better quality girls?"

How would you expect anyone to answer your question when you already said you cannot appreciate malay indon look? So whats left is naturally imports like viet/thai/etc... thus i would assume thats what you are looking for and hence my reply. I apologize.. I should have just said yes.

In any case, since you're BKK old timer.. am sure you seen before isan girls who are pretty. Same applies for Indo girls from different regions, some good some bad.

My only qualm would be that you're comparing delta to malio/1001.. if you already read thru the thread, you shld know delta is a proper spa+, they focus on giving good massage with HJ happy ending, while malio/1001 are just brothels with a spa name. If it helps you understand better, maybe think something like Lek massage vs Maria/black caviar? Totally not in the same category.

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

Would you say that the Delta Spa videos are accurate of the girls that are actually offered?

I would say 70% accurate. There are pretty ones, and I can vouch for it cos I've seen just recently when a friend brought to Bali from jakarta.

Thing is, it's hard to find out which branch has pretty girls... with at least 20-30 therapist at each location, your chance to encounter one would be 1/30 at the very least. And other factors like they are already serving other customers, off day, GRO randomly assign etc.. it would really take alot of luck and research. I've tried tipping GRO before, but despite telling them I want pretty ones, most of the time they still give me not good looking ones.

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

Anyway i doubt that Viet or Indon girls can command 2x the price in BKK whereas in Jakarta, the fact is the Viet/Thai girls are able to charge 2x the price of locals at top places like 1001.

Basic supply and demand. Viet/thai/uzbek/russia etc were brought it for variety for the local indon customers.. many whom after having local dishes everyday, crave for some foreign food for a change.

Though viet might not be able to command 2x price in BKK... how about PRC? also considered imports.

So maybe you rethink what you plan to do, plan to achieve in Jakarta. Going for full action or just want to go for a proper rub. Always good to have a game plan.

[Hurricane88]

@RobbyChin

mod knew you put in effort to reply but still you forgotten to edit the entire long post you quoted during reply...so mod had removed your last post...

[Setzer]

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

Appreciate the extra info. Guess I shld have been more specific in asking if Malio & 1001 have any Chinese Indon or Dutch Indon mix girls?

Real indo chinese are very rare in malio/1001 (cos of social stigma) but there's those locals that look chinese working there.

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

As for Delta vs Malio/1001, it’s more to establish a baseline for the girls’ looks. Delta is useful as it has many girl videos. But definitely a shock to see so many plain janes for their promotional videos.

this I really can't comprehend cos delta girls are not WLs. whatever floats your boat.

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

The anti-camp’s argument is that if Jakarta is so good & cheap then why do so many guys still go to BKK & HCMC?

Primarily i think its the language barrier and stereotype. You can't wake up one who is pretending to be asleep

Personally I like Jakarta because most girls are natural and havent gone under the knife b4. Real looks, real boobs. it's also easy to get overnight with the WLs, the LT is usually 10-12hours (or until 10am~12pm the next day) as compared to BKK/HCMC where the girls usually leaves after the 2nd shot or even 6am etc.

But you do have to ask first if the girl is staying at a kost/hostel (they have guardians there) or not, cos they will need to go back early for the above.

And yes most of the girls in indo appear darker than BKK/HCMC because they do not apply sunblock, whitening creams, or get whitening IV drips etc.

There's also more clubbing options in jakarta for one to take a break from the usual mongering.

Anyway, no right or wrong.. I'd be happy that lesser people come to Jakarta for mongering. less competition for me just call me biased

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

Also, the international FL Dome here features Viet, PRC, Japanese, European & even Brazilian girls but almost no Indon girls, is that due to a lack of Indon quality hence no demand among the locals here?

There are indon quality girls available in singapore... just not on sbf. and usually they are just here for 1-2 weeks on social visit. Rather discreet.

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

Seems the indons r friendly & prices r good so definitely very tempting.

there's good n bad ppl everywhere, just exercise common sense n logic. most indons are friendly n helpful, just like thais

As for prices.. I can only say quality vs price is relevant, although once in a while you might discover rare gems in "cheap/hidden" places.

Cheers

[Libero]

Totally agree on the under the knife comment.

Indonesian girls are naturally blessed with good sexy bodies, big boobs, hot ass, etc.

So they are not modified as much as their Thai and Viet counterparts.

Also, Indonesia is huge, you get so many varieties to eat - Pribumi, Bataknese, Sundanese, etc.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Libero

Totally agree on the under the knife comment.

Indonesian girls are naturally blessed with good sexy bodies, big boobs, hot ass, etc.

Agree with you and bro Setzer...find those that went plastic surgery all looked similar...there was a hotel in hcm which I used to stay...most of the gals there stayed and looked similar after surgery...

That was what I knew 20+ years ago in Thailand when most of the WL/LB in bkk went to do plastic surgery...

Heard from my friends that Korean docs are working in hcm doing this surgery...

[I Love Boobs]

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

Maybe I’m too traditional chinese & cannot appreciate that Malay Indon look but will Pool 1001 or Malio have better quality girls? I have been warned that Jakarta is all about quantity at low prices and not to expect high quality.

Cibais like you should just stay out of JKT.
You have pre-conceived notions about Malays / Indonesians.
You're either a Malaysian or Singaporean Chinese supremacist.
Stay the fuck out.
Otherwise, if I find you at any of my haunts, I'll be sure to let my local contacts know. They'll be appreciative of your generous donations of Yusof Ishak's. And you will donate willingly out of the kindness of your heart.
Once again, don't let me find you in Jakarta or anywhere around Indonesia. Except maybe Batam.
It's easy to sniff out a pen-pusher based in Singapore. Or will you message me and expect Read receipts?

[RobbyChin]

Originally Posted by I Love Boobs

Cibais like you should just stay out of JKT.
You have pre-conceived notions about Malays / Indonesians.
You're either a Malaysian or Singaporean Chinese supremacist.
Stay the fuck out.
Otherwise, if I find you at any of my haunts, I'll be sure to let my local contacts know. They'll be appreciative of your generous donations of Yusof Ishak's. And you will donate willingly out of the kindness of your heart.
Once again, don't let me find you in Jakarta or anywhere around Indonesia. Except maybe Batam.
It's easy to sniff out a pen-pusher based in Singapore. Or will you message me and expect Read receipts?

It’s sad that a civil constructive discussion has to be dragged down into the mud by toxic people like u. As I mentioned before, no need to be defensive or emotional. Not sure why u feel so entitled to threaten people online, hopefully the mod will give u a warning.

[RobbyChin]

Originally Posted by Libero

Totally agree on the under the knife comment.

Indonesian girls are naturally blessed with good sexy bodies, big boobs, hot ass, etc.

So they are not modified as much as their Thai and Viet counterparts.

Also, Indonesia is huge, you get so many varieties to eat - Pribumi, Bataknese, Sundanese, etc.

The genetic diversity of Indons is definitely worth exploring, thks for pointing that out. The Indon girls do seem more voluptuous although many whom I have met, tend to pack on too many extra pounds due to their rich food. Thai girls tend to go to the gym more & have more toned bodies while Viet girls don’t eat that much & usually stay slim. The plastic surgery wave will happen for the Indons too when they get richer. For the Viets, it’s a disaster as the skill level of plastic surgery there is so low. Thais r a mixed bag, I would say many of the girls’ plastic mods r very well done but they tend to overdo it. Will report back if I do head to Jakarta.

[I Love Boobs]

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

It’s sad that a civil constructive discussion has to be dragged down into the mud by toxic people like u. As I mentioned before, no need to be defensive or emotional. Not sure why u feel so entitled to threaten people online, hopefully the mod will give u a warning.

Who the fuck are you to have veiled threats against me and to tell the mod what to do?
You can't have intellectual discourse because you clearly lack the intellect.
I know your type. Ill-gotten gains with a cushy job in the civil service, based on ass licking not on meritocracy.
I assure you that you'll be easy to pick out in JKT. And don't worry, I won't hunt you down. I don't do things for free.

[Johnnyngai]

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

Would you say that the Delta Spa videos are accurate of the girls that are actually offered?
Anyway i doubt that Viet or Indon girls can command 2x the price in BKK whereas in Jakarta, the fact is the Viet/Thai girls are able to charge 2x the price of locals at top places like 1001.

I have said it before in this forum :: ordinary mangos from Thailand would sell for 5X the price in Europe.
Why come to Jakarta to pay 3X the price for Viet girls ?
Some of the Delta girls are fat compare to TRAVEL girls because that is the way it is.
I am very happy spending 450,000idr for a slim young girl in TRAVEL.
Just because I said many Delta girls are fat , that doesn't mean I disrespect Indonesian girls.
That only means that I have no interest in going to any Delta spas.
There are also many young slim girls in Kota Indah Pangeran fuck bars .

[RobbyChin]

Originally Posted by I Love Boobs

Who the fuck are you to have veiled threats against me and to tell the mod what to do?
You can't have intellectual discourse because you clearly lack the intellect.
I know your type. Ill-gotten gains with a cushy job in the civil service, based on ass licking not on meritocracy.
I assure you that you'll be easy to pick out in JKT. And don't worry, I won't hunt you down. I don't do things for free.

Sigh, the little man continues his temper tantrums. Don’t blame others for being poor, focus on improving yourself.

[Johnnyngai]

Originally Posted by RobbyChin

The Indon girls tend to pack on too many extra pounds due to their rich food. Thai girls tend to go to the gym more & have more toned bodies while Viet girls don’t eat that much & usually stay slim. The plastic surgery wave will happen for the Indons too when they get richer.

Just compare Indo food to Thai / Viet food , Indo food has too many greasy oily fried items.
Young Indo girls are ok, but after 30, they do gain much fat compare to Thai / Viet.
Some of those Thai / Viet girls think that they are of a higher class just because they had some $$ surgery.
Young Indo girl have no such problem.
You can find many nice slim young Indo girls in Malio or 1001.
For me the biggest different between TRAVEL and Malio is that Malio girls are on an average 1cm taller and 1mil pricier.

[Hurricane88]

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[fr33domfighter]

Originally Posted by Setzer

Anyway, no right or wrong.. I'd be happy that lesser people come to Jakarta for mongering. less competition for me just call me biased

Cheers

Very much on point brother.

TBH I had the same perspectives as others before re: the 'unplayability' of Indonesian; but one fine day I just took the plunge and explored. I'm glad I did.

Let the misconceptions stay - case in point I written a post comparing Jakarta to BKK some time ago and got zapped even when I subtlety still say BKK is better!

I will keep my mouth shut and quietly enjoy the little peace