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elth · #**16666** 17-07-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Kuyt

BR wants both Jonjo and Jordan because they are young and can be trained to play his way whereas Andy is the traditional type of centre forward. The tiki-taka system does not need this type of forward.

yeah Henderson can still be trained he really young

NZL97 · #**16667** 17-07-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Kuyt

Liverpool has offered him to Newcastle for £17m.

i thought its the other way round, tats y we reject the offer as it is too low....

i remember the beginning of last season that we have too many central midfielders hence we loaned out JC & AA, later lucas, adam & gerrard got injured & we are only left wif the unproven spearing, henderson & shelvey which leave us very light weight in the middle..................we should learn from this mistake & keep hold of all our existing midfielders in view of our europa league campaign as well.............still hope we can sign one quality midfielder & winger..............YNWA

doppelherz · #**16668** 17-07-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Kuyt

Adam wants to stay but he is the traditional "British" style of midfielder. He does not have the tactical nous to fit into the tiki-taka system, so he have to go.

Adam, just not good enough but can't blame the boy whenever he tries.

As for Carroll, all I can is that I am disappointed that it looks like we fans will not see the best of him in a Liverpool shirt.
If all these rumors are true and he goes back to the Toon, I will still be supporting him as he is still a beast of a player.

chochochang2 · #**16669** 17-07-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Kuyt

I disagree. In the tiki-taka system the midfielders are key to making the system and it is not restricted to the 3 midfielders. The defenders and the attackers are interchangeable with the centre 3 as the idea is to keep constant movement. Ever wondered why Spain played with 6 midfielders and no striker?

You dun need an out & out striker..... you just need a clinical finisher to put away the chances and that finisher could be any of the 6 midfielders.

so you're saying, we're gonna play with 6 midfielders just like Spain did?

Why are you digressing?

When I said 4-3-3, I meant 4 defenders, 3 midfielders and 3 forwards. Not, 3 midfielders in the front 3 positions. (i.e 6 midfielders)

Did you see Brendan Rodgers play with 3 midfielders in his front 3?

This is the formation that Brendan Rodgers is likely to employ given the fact that he favoured 4-3-3 when he was at Swansea.

And, do you think the current Liverpool squad can be compared to Spain's national team?

Lastly, I don't see why Brendan Rodgers will play with all 6 midfielders when he just bought Fabio Borini and have at least Luis Suarez at his disposal.

Get it right, Liverpool does not equate to Spain.

Just because Spain played with 6 midfielders in their infamous 4-6-0 formation, it doesn't mean that Liverpool must follow suit.

Sure, Spain did well with that tactic but does it mean it will work for Liverpool?

doppelherz · #**16670** 17-07-2012, 07:20 PM

the way I see it, Suarez will be the only striker in the starting 11.
Borini is a forward player to me, not necessarily a striker and will do a lot of midfield work like Kuyt as he is hardworking too.

to some extent I agree with user Dirk Kuyt, end of the day the system won't work when everyone can only hit the post and not score.

Dirk Kuyt · #**16671** 17-07-2012, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NZL97

i thought its the other way round, tats y we reject the offer as it is too low....

Newcastle offered to take Andy on loan but Liverpool countered with £17m.

Dirk Kuyt · #**16672** 18-07-2012, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by doppelherz

the way I see it, Suarez will be the only striker in the starting 11.
Borini is a forward player to me, not necessarily a striker and will do a lot of midfield work like Kuyt as he is hardworking too.

to some extent I agree with user Dirk Kuyt, end of the day the system won't work when everyone can only hit the post and not score.

Suarez is not a natural striker. If you watch his videos before he came over to Liverpool..... he was more of a free running forward than a target man.

Dirk Kuyt · #**16673** 18-07-2012, 12:28 AM

Why am I still posting here when I have already left Liverpool?
Because Liverpool is always be in my heart.

doppelherz · #**16674** 18-07-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Kuyt

Suarez is not a natural striker. If you watch his videos before he came over to Liverpool..... he was more of a free running forward than a target man.

exactly why selling Carroll baffles me even more!
I really hope the club spring a surprise and unveil a new striker who can actually be a target man.
We have been linked with Sturridge who also isn't a target man.
Now we been linked with genuine interest for Walcott too, I guess he will help on the wing and will be an improvement to what we got.

The Milk Man · #**16675** 18-07-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by doppelherz

exactly why selling Carroll baffles me even more!
I really hope the club spring a surprise and unveil a new striker who can actually be a target man.
We have been linked with Sturridge who also isn't a target man.
Now we been linked with genuine interest for Walcott too, I guess he will help on the wing and will be an improvement to what we got.

You dun play football do you? A target man would be a hindrance to the passing game that BR uses. He needs his strikers to be very mobile for the system to work. AC is a battering ram..... he does not have the mobility that BR wants.

doppelherz · #**16676** 18-07-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Milk Man

You dun play football do you? A target man would be a hindrance to the passing game that BR uses. He needs his strikers to be very mobile for the system to work. AC is a battering ram..... he does not have the mobility that BR wants.

Yes I do play football regularly, thanks for asking.

So the fans can just expect the team to be a one dimensional team with no Plan B? So every player must fit that system when it fails too?
Is Rodgers that lousy that he can only force a team to have one style?
Sheesh I hope not.

On the topic of mobility too, Swansea played with a target man in Danny Graham and he bagged at least 15 goals or more. So why can't it work for Liverpool?

rahl · #**16677** 18-07-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Kuyt

Newcastle offered to take Andy on loan but Liverpool countered with £17m.

Show me a credible source.

Btw on another note, interesting what Suarez says about the racism issue. Not the most politically correct thing to do, I must say, but I support the lad all the way:

"The media in England showed the moment when I passed in front of him, but they didn't see that he had his hand low before. Only the media in Uruguay but also in Spain showed that I wanted to shake his hand."

Glen said much the same IIRC.

rahl · #**16678** 18-07-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by doppelherz

Yes I do play football regularly, thanks for asking.

So the fans can just expect the team to be a one dimensional team with no Plan B? So every player must fit that system when it fails too?
Is Rodgers that lousy that he can only force a team to have one style?
Sheesh I hope not.

On the topic of mobility too, Swansea played with a target man in Danny Graham and he bagged at least 15 goals or more. So why can't it work for Liverpool?