Hooking girls in Indonesia instead of cheonging

[samsam]

Originally Posted by Wizrd

Hi bro...

At the end of the day...you want to be the person she wants to have fun with...to enjoy life a bit...no promises of forever, and once she accepts that...you are in for a good time...just don’t half way turn sentimental and confuse yourself and her with words of love and crap...
She will figure out very quickly that you are her friend and for fun only and not for marriage...and when she is ready to settle down...she will move on and you just have to start again...I guarantee you that she will not have any hard feelings against you if you are a true gentleman and be nice and upfront all the time..

Keep it simple and have fun...



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so it is simply as friend. not as lover. this must make it clear to her?

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by samsam

so it is simply as friend. not as lover. this must make it clear to her?

No bro...

As lovers...not as husband and wife...no need to make it too clear...just be clear that you are not looking at a future of being married (but you must mean it or you will break her heart should you marry someone else...)

Discuss how to have fun together...maybe can travel togehter...learn and grow toegther...that kind of things...just stay away from playing house to the point of building a family together...

Always have her in your future...but as your friend, your lover...my motto is never say never...so maybe I might get married again...but I am not planning it and she should not either...make it clear that if she wants a husband, you have a few friends you can recommend her to...but to have fun...you are the man!

She is either on board with that idea or not...if she says no...no problems, plenty of fish in the ocean...keep trying and you will find a few who will subscribe to this idea...just don't get hung up on one girl....that will drive you crazy....

Cheers...


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[nukebomb]

Originally Posted by Wizrd

Alrighty bro...

Walk away!!!

In all my time of hooking...the genuine ones will never ask for things upfront...if they do...likely she will disappear after you hand over the gift...or her husband will suddenly show up after you give it to her and then you lan lan watch them walk away with your gift...or maybe he will demand more things to 'cover his shame'...


The genuine ones want your affection and will never play the gift card unless they are used to scamming or has worked as WL...it is almost as unacceptable as a guy befriending a girl and on the first meeting suggests that he will pay for the meal only if she has sex with him....only a pro will go the direct route...

Something is up if you guys haven't been together for a while before she starts asking for stuff...don't even waste your time bro...just walk away...

Plenty of fish in the ocean...give this one up...don't try anything with her...


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Wah! Professor you really fast hand fast leg, thanks for yr advice and I have UP yr rep points.

But Bro dun you agreed that she also shows her sincerely by giving the letter, in another words is like " I already give you my key to my husband you can back fire me anytime you like!"

By the way, I left out a bit in fact when she came to my room, I too
humsup jump steps without getting her first kiss I already starts caressing her boobs, is really soft like water and have a size of 34C, a really unforgettable neh neh

So Bro are you saying that so long as a lady ask for something expensive during the first date is wasting time? ( is iPhone 5 consider ex? )

So Bro how to play safe with a Milf? Can teach boh? Thanks.

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by nukebomb

Wah! Professor you really fast hand fast leg, thanks for yr advice and I have UP yr rep points.

But Bro dun you agreed that she also shows her sincerely by giving the letter, in another words is like " I already give you my key to my husband you can back fire me anytime you like!"

By the way, I left out a bit in fact when she came to my room, I too
humsup jump steps without getting her first kiss I already starts caressing her boobs, is really soft like water and have a size of 34C, a really unforgettable neh neh

So Bro are you saying that so long as a lady ask for something expensive during the first date is wasting time? ( is iPhone 5 consider ex? )

So Bro how to play safe with a Milf? Can teach boh? Thanks.

Hi Bro...thanks for your upzz...

Alrighty...from what you described...I think you jumped the gun a bit and have presented yourself with a different problem...

MILFs are the same as normal women...and with non-WL...the approach must always be like for a girlfriend...meaning a bit slowly slowly catch the monkey approach...say what we like...normal girls how also a bit shy...only WL-experienced ones know the 'don't ask, don't get' rule and will apply it quickly....

She must have done some WL work before...whether she is still in the trade is any one's guess...
But...once you jumped ahead and groped her...she switched back to the WL mode....yes, maybe she is no longer doing it for cash...but she must feel a bit heart pain to not get something out of it...since you kum kum green go in and anyhow grope...you must also be a player and should know the market price...

Is an iPhone 5 ex?? Bro...the latest I checked, iPhone 5 goes for 9+ mil in Indo....that is your one week worth of cheonging with different (younger, syt, more willing) WL and hotel bill settled. I think she thought she hit the jackpot. (most girls on the first few dates will only be brave enough to ask for taxi money...if that...)

I suggest you walk away...I'm serious bro...just go to any big mall and you can pick one up in a matter of hours...don't press on with this one...



Tackling MILFs is exactly the same as with normal girls...the up side is that they are comfortable with having sex and are usually free in the afternoon...but the down side is they must almost always go home to take care of the kid(s) at night...so unless you like to sleep alone, MILFs are only good as backups...

I had a MILF...Indo Chinese...and will call her when my girlfriend was on duty and cannot come visit...the good thing is...I know she will be gone by midnight and I have plenty of time to clean up before my girl shows up the next morning...(the frigging purfume is hard to get rid of in a hotel room...)
However...I got rid of her because she was getting expensive...mine was a tai tai type...stays in a bangalow with her parents and her kids...na bei...her handbag costs more than all my clothes put together...and she comes over in a chauffeur-driven car...
Don't even suggest food halls to her...it must always be top restaurants and she can go through 3 mil worth of sake and sushi in half an hour...going to the toilet when we were in a restaurant can become very expensive because I am not there to stop the ordering...one day, I came back and my 'darling' ordered shark's fin with abalone and birds nest for the two of us...how impressed was I?!?!?
(mind you...if she decided to marry me and I can get half should she divorce me...I might think about it...she was gorgeous....)



Understand this bro...MILFs are easier pickings but come with their own baggage...please re-read all my steps and don't be happy when you can jump 2-3 steps at once...that means she is into the game and you are about to be sent a quotation for services rendered...

Think of it this way mate...hooking girls is the same anywhere in the world...the process can be sped up in developing countries only because the ladies there are so in need of something fresh and exciting...but too much of a good thing means they are in the game too, and you should walk away...very quickly!!

I have heard and seen too many scams and the guys are always badly burnt...remember that you are a foreigner and she has unknown contacts to help her dig all they can from you....if a girl appears too keen, abort!!
(especially muslims bro...the gang can come to your room and arrest you without the courst of law concurring...)

For this one...hang her out to dry...maybe she will come crawling back...then you can name the price and see if she is willing to accept...but my gut feel is to walk away from her...I tell you bro...out of nowhere, her husband can suddenly become the police chief in the district type...don't play play...

Hope your big head is reading and the message is not blocked by the small head bro...


Happy hooking and please be safe bro...

Cheers...


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[tumble]

Good day. Thought you won't be posting after not seeing you post for a while. Glad you're back. With the steps described, can you relate back on the qualification process with some more past experiences?

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by Wizrd

No bro...

As lovers...not as husband and wife...no need to make it too clear...just be clear that you are not looking at a future of being married (but you must mean it or you will break her heart should you marry someone else...)

Discuss how to have fun together...maybe can travel togehter...learn and grow toegther...that kind of things...just stay away from playing house to the point of building a family together...

Always have her in your future...but as your friend, your lover...my motto is never say never...so maybe I might get married again...but I am not planning it and she should not either...make it clear that if she wants a husband, you have a few friends you can recommend her to...but to have fun...you are the man!

She is either on board with that idea or not...if she says no...no problems, plenty of fish in the ocean...keep trying and you will find a few who will subscribe to this idea...just don't get hung up on one girl....that will drive you crazy....

Cheers...


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I salute you on your fair and decent deal to these girls you bag. Nothing worse than guys using the lure of everlasting love, marriage etc just to get a girl in bed.

And IMHO, worst are those guys who preys on working girls by such promises whilst all they want is free or cheaper sex. Working girls are so vulnerable to these sharks as their profession makes them so lonely, so deprived of human warmth and kindness that when she even feels a guy showing her the slightest bit of warmth, she's like melted butter.

SEAJ

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by tumble

Good day. Thought you won't be posting after not seeing you post for a while. Glad you're back. With the steps described, can you relate back on the qualification process with some more past experiences?

Hi Bro..

Sorry I didn't read your question from before...

Alrighty...qualifying prospect...

Thess steps depend entirely on what you are after...for me...the woman must:

1) speak or understand English...my Bahasa is only good enough to order food and ask for the toilet...very difficult to sound romantice with limited vocabulary.
Better still if she doesn't fully understand the difficult words or my speed of speech...if spoken with the right tone...'can I come in your mouth?' can be made to sound really sexy and romantic to a woman who does not understand the meaning of the words...

2) be an 'ordinary' woman...meaning she does not display any sign that she is/was in the trade. The reason here is for the overall cost at the end of the day....sure, hooking a present or ex-WL makes the process very much easier, but they are aware of the price guys are willing to pay and they will ask for a market-value return for their time...

Not only that...avoid targeting women working in the malls where you may do a lot of your hunting (both at the shops and offices nearby)...if you go through the method with them and then they see you try your luck with other women...they can very quickly work out what you are doing...if you must do it becasue that one girl is too cute to be true...fine, do it...but you have just burnt a whole mall full of talents with that one hit....

3) have some free time...there are many women who work full time then go for courses (or a second job) in the evening ...great fro them, but if you hook one like that... your weekdays with her are pretty much burnt...maybe ok as backups but they seldom have time for you during the week...and if they do make the effort to meet you during the week...they are after more than a friend for fun...they want you as a boyfriend...

4) have some money...meaning she either works or is from a reasonably well to do family. I have been fed heart breaking stories of poverty and felt bad that I'm not helping a woman who I'm banging...but mate...I am not there to save the village...I want to have fun but cannot help pay her bills and send her kids to college etc...there is a big difference between being charitable and being stupid.

5) show interest in me...usually, after a few minutes with a woman, I can sense if she is into me as a person or into me as a wallet or into me as a trophy...The first one makes it easier to hook and keep her...the second one will make me walk away and the third one makes her an easy bang but little longer term prospect...this element makes or breaks the GFE during the relationship...

6) not have an ability to travel freely and easily...most working women do not have that much annual leave and that is what I like. I seldom go for uni students becausae they spend daddy's money and lo and behold...may turn up at my door step out of a whim for fun and adventure...that is way too much adventure for me...

and lastly, and usually assumed...

7) be attractive enough that I will bang her...over and over...some women are nice from far but far from nice...some have habits or gestures that are unattractive or annoying...
I once hooked a lovely and pretty girl but she has really bad breath...gave her up after the first bang...and a MILF who was quite attractive...but she likes to suck on her teeeth and after an hour or so of that...I had a real headache...
So...check that you are ok with her...do not tolerate for the sake of one bang...we never know when we will fall in love and it's not easy to control our feelings once sex gets involved...choose wisely...don't live to regret it...


All the above cannot be done at first glance...you need to spend some time with a woman to qualify her properly...

With my method...I go out on a limb and see what I can get...then I spend a little time to qualify her properly before moving into phase two...if no go...walk away, thank her and start again....(the more adventurous can keep her as a friend and maybe she has cute friends....but only do this if you really have the time to spare...)

Yes, all this will waste a bit of time but it is good practice for us...also a huge confidence booster once you know you can get a few cute young ladies to 'help' you out consistantly...

But like any good hunter/fishermen...if the prey is not fit for consumption yet...better to let go and move on regardless of how hungry or desperate we are...the aim of the exercise is to find a suitable woman who will visit with us over and over again...with plenty of GFE...

Once you have the method down and know what you are doing...getting a ONS type of action is really too easy and can be done as a hobby during lull periods...

I hope I have answered your question...please feel free to ask more if you stilll have doubts...


Cheers...


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[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

I salute you on your fair and decent deal to these girls you bag. Nothing worse than guys using the lure of everlasting love, marriage etc just to get a girl in bed.

And IMHO, worst are those guys who preys on working girls by such promises whilst all they want is free or cheaper sex. Working girls are so vulnerable to these sharks as their profession makes them so lonely, so deprived of human warmth and kindness that when she even feels a guy showing her the slightest bit of warmth, she's like melted butter.

SEAJ

Thanks bro...and I agree with you fully...

Even though I do not believe in Karma....it is still not a nice feeling knowing that your lover is getting played....always be fair and be kind....

After all, she is my girlfriend for the few hours we are together...and good GFE can only be enjoyed if she is being treated properly...

I firmly believe that I am giving them an adventure and a chance to have fun...so in that respect, I can sleep easy knowing I am not trying to cheat them...


Cheers bro...

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[tumble]

Thanks for spending time to explain in details again. I guess it's the first step that's always challenging but once the nerves are calmed, things start flowing. Just have to do it is probably the answer.

Any luck in writing more of your past success stories? You can skip the fluid exchange parts since this thread ain't about that.

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by tumble

Thanks for spending time to explain in details again. I guess it's the first step that's always challenging but once the nerves are calmed, things start flowing. Just have to do it is probably the answer.

Any luck in writing more of your past success stories? You can skip the fluid exchange parts since this thread ain't about that.

Ok bro...I think your problem with nerves is because you are focusing on the outcome of the encounter....

Stop thinking about what you can do with the woman...focus instead on getting to know her, or getting her to know you...

The reason I break the process down into phases is so that bros who are not experienced in the hooking can focus on each phase at one time...

You will be nervous if you think only of the outcome...


Take a job interview...if you fuss and worry about getting the job..you will be nervous...instead...focus on talking to the interviewer(s)...they are trying to get to know you and you are trying to figure out what they want to know...by thinking of the outcome constantly (ie...can get the job or not...) you will be very nervous because getting the job or not is kinda important to you...
Letting the interviewer(s) get to know you is not so important to you so if you focus on being friendly and open to talk...you will do much better...

Same with hooking girls...


Yeah bro...I have been thinking about relating the story of how I met my China girlfriend...or the previous one...but I need time to put them down on paper....please give me some time and remind me often to kick my arse into gear...ok?


Cheers....

[tumble]

I am sure many will want to kick you into gear to start writing

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by tumble

I am sure many will want to kick you into gear to start writing

Thanks bro...just praying that the kicks are not too hard...

For the time being...maybe can switch to and read this thread detailing what's troubling me right now... Troubles.... and please offer advice if any...
Yet another screw up by yours truly...

Cheers.


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[henabi]

No wonder you MIA that long... Kinda suck tO be wIthout Internet for such a log period of time....
Thanks for your advice Wiz. Now I am telling roughly what I do and I will ocassiOnally remind her to have her lunch/dinner etc. and just recently I am tellin her about my next visit. True enough she will discuss where to go etc.

One more thing to ask wiz, do you share your photos with her? I am currently sharing a few photos with her... Just wanna know whether it is safe or not...

[henabi]

Originally Posted by Wizrd

Thanks bro...just praying that the kicks are not too hard...

For the time being...maybe can switch to and read this thread detailing what's troubling me right now... Troubles.... and please offer advice if any...
Yet another screw up by yours truly...

Cheers.


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Wow... Well... Someday somehow it's gonna happen to one of us >.< it's just a matter of how bad the situation is...
Previously one SBF shared his story of fucking his wife's younger sister and luckily that girl was matured enough not to make a big ho ha out of it...and decided to step away from this kinda relationship. Otherwise it may have been MUCH MUCH worse.

Wiz, yours still alright. Even thou it's your ex camp mate. Plus you haven't seen him for so many yrs.... May not turn out to be as bad as you have imagined it to be. PrObably just a few punches and kicks...And ask you to fuck off

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by henabi

No wonder you MIA that long... Kinda suck tO be wIthout Internet for such a log period of time....
Thanks for your advice Wiz. Now I am telling roughly what I do and I will ocassiOnally remind her to have her lunch/dinner etc. and just recently I am tellin her about my next visit. True enough she will discuss where to go etc.

One more thing to ask wiz, do you share your photos with her? I am currently sharing a few photos with her... Just wanna know whether it is safe or not...

Hey bro...

Yes, it is safe to share phots with her...but make sure they are only photo of you...with no one else...especially not with her...

They may plaster it all over the net...and ask people in facebook if they know this person...

If photo of only you...you can deny and say don't know where that crazy woman got your photo from....
If photo with her...kinda hard to explain that one away...
If photo with someone else...then you have provided her with one more person for people to recognise...right??

The best photos I find are the ones I use for public profiles...then anyone can get those photos off the net....if in doubt...put a photo as the profile pic after giving it to her...and keep rotating...so your defence is always air tight...

Yes... keep her keen...tell her how much you enjoyed spending time with her...and discuss what to do next...ask her for suggestions...she knows the place better than you...then narrow down by weeding out all the 'unsafe' places from her list...


cheers bro....