Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

[I55055]

Originally Posted by 55055

You very good at flipping prata, similarly you said duckking very good at it, but I think you better.

First you said you not siding Hurricane88, but you keep on going and going, as if you got problem with me. All my questiones for you, been avoided. Instead you came out with your own assumption. Already stated clearly that in spirit of sharing, what’s wrong telling newbies to beware of Hurricane88. See in your statement, you agreed that Hurricane88 is a sex tour agent.

My original nick was created same year as this nick, and having about same points, so why would I pissed off if I can create new nick. Plus this nick can post at thai thread still. So your assumption is irrevelant to what I’m sharing to newbies.

555555 only 55055 and gang will behave in such a hooligan manner...

[stillgottheblue]

[ Singapore và Dịch vụ ].
🇸🇬 Xóa #Blacklist với trả về . #Canceled với trục xuất với tỉ lệ đậu cao , liên kết nhiều công ty thực hiện bảo lãnh , kháng cáo , cấp Entry.
🔺 Cung cấp #Spass 1 năm có thể gia hạn 2 năm / #Epass 5 năm có thể xin PR TỰ DO với giá khủng 2xxxx (x nhỏ)
✨ Nhận làm #workpermit / #studentpass TỰ DO trả góp hàng tháng giả phải chăng.
☘️☘️☘️
• Đi du lịch và làm thử 26 ngày #Singer #Dancer #Model và #DJ tại Club . #PR tại KTV.
• Nhiều Club và KTV lớn tại Sing , tha hồ quẹo lựa #ACE #VClub (2-3-5-6) #FC #Tian #Hiro #OrchardplazaTower #Lido . Chuyên nghiệp - Đẳng cấp với lương từ 2000$ đến 20.000$ .
• Mua Line nhập cảnh tại Sing.
- Dắt qua hải quan (Singaporian / Malaysian ).
- IC bảo lãnh / Thư mời nhập cảnh.
- Giấy mời công ty có đóng mộc .
• Cung cấp , mua bán #Workpermit tại Club, KTV đông khách hàng đầu ở Sing.
[ Malaysia và dịch vụ ].
• Nhiều KTV lớn cho PR ( #KLcc , #Subang ).
• Lương trả theo giờ , ngồi bàn 40h/ tuần nhận lương 10tr/ tuần . #TIP lấy riêng , Booking bàn tối thiểu 1tr7 tiền mặt khách trả tại bàn cho PR lấy.
• Ứng vé máy bay , mua đường đi và về với mọi loại passport , mọi loại mộc xấu.
• Nhà ở cung cấp tiện nghi , làm việc thoải mái thời gian (6h / ngày ) được ở từ 2 đến 24 tháng.
• Bao #Police #VMT cảo nhanh từ 48h - 7 ngày .
• Hỗ trợ thay đổi chỗ làm .

[ Và các dịch vụ khác ... : Sing , Malay , VN, hỗ trợ bổ sung mọi loại hồ sơ , bằng cấp , giấy tờ , ứng tiền lãi suất thấp ]

📱 0165 667 369 Wechat / Whatsapp.

A lot of these in Viet Nam I think. Is it untrustworthy? LOL!

[SingViet]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Correct steps

1. apply LTVP or LTVP+
2. best make babies...sin gahmen love babies...make sure babies sinkie citizen
3. after 2 years LTVP/LTVP+...then apply PR

Like what bro naemlo said...if LTVP cannot approve no point to apply PR...

ICA look at almost everything when wife hv no education...recently too many foreigner wife divorce or ran away whereby after getting PR or even before getting...hubby try to cancel LTVP or PR with ICA...so ICA is monitoring if proper nucleus family can last long...

Bro, if no LTVP, cannot apply for PR. Got LTVP, then Singaporean husband can apply for PR under Spouse Sponsorship

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by SingViet

Bro, if no LTVP, cannot apply for PR. Got LTVP, then Singaporean husband can apply for PR under Spouse Sponsorship

Yes, I knew...that's why I advised the above steps...no point to straight apply PR if LTVP not approved...2 years after LTVP then apply PR...

Thanks for pointing out..

[ClownTeaser]

[FireShark]

Originally Posted by owen10

I have a sincere question here. Genuine one asked out of concern for a close fren. He has married a VN gal for abt 3 years. But wife still not given PR. She's on social visit pass, renewable every 6 mths (i think).

My fren is a grad earning a stable income of 4k+. However, wife is not highly educated or skilled. Think probably not completed Sec 4 and working in the beauty sector for salary less than 1k. They have no kids.

What are the chances of her gettin PR? Does she stand any chance at all even in the near future?

Appreciate all advice.

So many samster had already given you advice.

It is impossible her social visit pass only renewable every 6 months. It should a year. If your frd had a stable income of 4K plus, she should be able to get a LTVP for1 year unless she had issues with ICA before which your friend don't know. The best chance for her to get PR is to have baby which many had said.

[FireShark]

Originally Posted by stillgottheblue

[ Singapore và Dịch vụ ].
🇸🇬 Xóa #Blacklist với trả về . #Canceled với trục xuất với tỉ lệ đậu cao , liên kết nhiều công ty thực hiện bảo lãnh , kháng cáo , cấp Entry.
🔺 Cung cấp #Spass 1 năm có thể gia hạn 2 năm / #Epass 5 năm có thể xin PR TỰ DO với giá khủng 2xxxx (x nhỏ)
✨ Nhận làm #workpermit / #studentpass TỰ DO trả góp hàng tháng giả phải chăng.
☘️☘️☘️
• Đi du lịch và làm thử 26 ngày #Singer #Dancer #Model và #DJ tại Club . #PR tại KTV.
• Nhiều Club và KTV lớn tại Sing , tha hồ quẹo lựa #ACE #VClub (2-3-5-6) #FC #Tian #Hiro #OrchardplazaTower #Lido . Chuyên nghiệp - Đẳng cấp với lương từ 2000$ đến 20.000$ .
• Mua Line nhập cảnh tại Sing.
- Dắt qua hải quan (Singaporian / Malaysian ).
- IC bảo lãnh / Thư mời nhập cảnh.
- Giấy mời công ty có đóng mộc .
• Cung cấp , mua bán #Workpermit tại Club, KTV đông khách hàng đầu ở Sing.
[ Malaysia và dịch vụ ].
• Nhiều KTV lớn cho PR ( #KLcc , #Subang ).
• Lương trả theo giờ , ngồi bàn 40h/ tuần nhận lương 10tr/ tuần . #TIP lấy riêng , Booking bàn tối thiểu 1tr7 tiền mặt khách trả tại bàn cho PR lấy.
• Ứng vé máy bay , mua đường đi và về với mọi loại passport , mọi loại mộc xấu.
• Nhà ở cung cấp tiện nghi , làm việc thoải mái thời gian (6h / ngày ) được ở từ 2 đến 24 tháng.
• Bao #Police #VMT cảo nhanh từ 48h - 7 ngày .
• Hỗ trợ thay đổi chỗ làm .

[ Và các dịch vụ khác ... : Sing , Malay , VN, hỗ trợ bổ sung mọi loại hồ sơ , bằng cấp , giấy tờ , ứng tiền lãi suất thấp ]

📱 0165 667 369 Wechat / Whatsapp.

A lot of these in Viet Nam I think. Is it untrustworthy? LOL!

Some statement is true but some is not. In the end they need to pay agent fees plus work permit fee although they said the work permit fee is provided by employer

[SingViet]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Yes, I knew...that's why I advised the above steps...no point to straight apply PR if LTVP not approved...2 years after LTVP then apply PR...

Thanks for pointing out..

Also not allowed to apply for PR if don't have LTSVP. As for the time period after LTSVP to apply for PR, there's no minimum requirements.

[duckking]

On babies and immigration policy

1) Firstly, I want to add something here, about whether having a baby increases your foreign spouse's chances of attaining a PR/citizenship. This is not a rebuttal of other posts/replies you see on this thread because ultimately we are not the authorities and nobody here can guarantee anything. But these are usual complaints/queries you hear everywhere, and I want to address them.

A. Singapore government encourage us to have babies. Can having babies increase my foreign wife's chance of getting PR/Citizenship?

B. Singapore government tells us to have babes. But they don't want to help us by giving us more subsidies, why?

It is true that Singapore's population is declining. It is true that our government wants Singaporean to procreate. HOWEVER, you cannot take everything that is said literally. You need to read between the lines. There is something call the unspoken word.

Read in full, the government's edict, is this: "Have more babies, if you can afford it"

Key is the underlined. I cannot over-emphasized how important it is. The government is NOT telling every Tom Dick and Harry to go procreate. The government only wants those who can afford to have babies - to go have babies. Nobody will ask those who cannot afford to have babies to go have babies.
And no, the government is not confused here, they are very clear what their problem is. The low income group is producing too many children and vice versa. But this is something they cannot say directly, out loud, because they cannot afford to offend the masses. But anyone who is educated can read between the lines, the higher income group need to have more babies. If the lower income group produces too many babies, we have a big problem.

So, please do not take what the government says about having more babies too literally.

2) Secondly, many Singaporeans cannot seem to differentiate between civil service and politics. The people who grant your wife immigrant status and whatever passes, are civil servants. There is a huge gap between what their job entails, and what the government of the day thinks is important. There is very little link between the chances of your wife getting a PR and whether you have a Singaporean baby or not. Almost non-existent link.

3) Thirdly, please do not go confront a civil servant and make life difficult for them. Don't threaten them with 'your votes', don't rudely insist on your so-called 'citizen rights', whatsoever. They are civil servants. Not politicians. After that they just go to another room and make jokes about you.

[duckking]

And here is the rebuttal.

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

2. best make babies...sin gahmen love babies...make sure babies sinkie citizen

This is really terrible advice. I don't know how you can ask someone to go have babies without a contextual understanding of their background, capability etc. There are consequnces here which has to be borne later.

As for those reading these 'advice'. Please think carefully. You sure having a baby will get your wife her PR/citizenship? You may have seen a odd case here and there, but bear in mind one example does not refute the general. It is easy to produce a baby, but very hard to raise. The baby needs diapers, milk powders, clothes, schools and what have you. For whatever reason you want to produce a baby, please make sure you can pay. I can assure you, 5 years down the road, if you are having problems, hurricane88 will NOT be offering to pay your child's childcare fees for you. Heck, he won't even be saying sorry. He simply NOT the kind of people who admits his mistakes. If you want to go make a baby, please think hard. And then harder.

And no, there is nothing here about differing perspective and all that, this is not something we can 'agree to disagree', that stuff. This is just purely and simply terrible advice, whatever the intentions are.

[cockwomble]

Originally Posted by duckking

And here is the rebuttal.



This is really terrible advice. I don't know how you can ask someone to go have babies without a contextual understanding of their background, capability etc. There are consequnces here which has to be borne later.

As for those reading these 'advice'. Please think carefully. You sure having a baby will get your wife her PR/citizenship? You may have seen a odd case here and there, but bear in mind one example does not refute the general. It is easy to produce a baby, but very hard to raise. The baby needs diapers, milk powders, clothes, schools and what have you. For whatever reason you want to produce a baby, please make sure you can pay. I can assure you, 5 years down the road, if you are having problems, hurricane88 will NOT be offering to pay your child's childcare fees for you. Heck, he won't even be saying sorry. He simply NOT the kind of people who admits his mistakes. If you want to go make a baby, please think hard. And then harder.

And no, there is nothing here about differing perspective and all that, this is not something we can 'agree to disagree', that stuff. This is just purely and simply terrible advice, whatever the intentions are.

What a cockwomble

[damong777]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Correct steps

1. apply LTVP or LTVP+
2. best make babies...sin gahmen love babies...make sure babies sinkie citizen
3. after 2 years LTVP/LTVP+...then apply PR

Like what bro naemlo said...if LTVP cannot approve no point to apply PR...

ICA look at almost everything when wife hv no education...recently too many foreigner wife divorce or ran away whereby after getting PR or even before getting...hubby try to cancel LTVP or PR with ICA...so ICA is monitoring if proper nucleus family can last long...

Personal experience for ltvp and pr

1) before marriage go apply pre approval of ltvp. Ica will let you know what your prospective wife can get. Furthermore if approved, is good for one year while u consider whether to go ahead to marry. Once rom with this approval is faster process time. Can get your ltvp in 1-2 months
2) pr is subjective on period like what h88 mentioned 2yrs is around there; baby is a plus but may not be necessary. Have seen vb no baby got pr. What Ica will also look at is the job position education income iras and cpf of the sponsor. Also seen vb younger than husband 20yrs pr not approved. So really dependent on the status of the sponsor and spouse.

Case to note also flying frequently back to home country while applying for pr is a big minus for Ica. Reason is that why they will give pr to someone who dun stay in Singapore. Just for considerations. May not be 100% true.

Agreed with h88 no point for pr application if even ltvp cannot approve. Go find out why ltvp not approve more important first.

Most key make sure ur documents are all properly translated and especially birth certificate highest education and passport tally.

[damong777]

Originally Posted by SingViet

Also not allowed to apply for PR if don't have LTSVP. As for the time period after LTSVP to apply for PR, there's no minimum requirements.

I did ask the officer before when issued ltvp+ to my wife how long then can apply pr. She mentioned preferably 6 months later. So may be true no min period but just recommended period by officer.

For pr if I not wrong, if rejected, have to wait min 6 months to re apply again. Again I may be wrong.

[Noun]

Originally Posted by cockwomble

What a cockwomble

Nice word which I pickup today. Fits this clone very well.

[vietboy]

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