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as long the prey finds it enjoyable then it's a KC trap already. somemore it's a good KC trap with little "cost" incurred if the objectives are still met
but true...
off the light = still ok bcuz i think some girls r a bit paiseh/self-conscious during early stage with the lights all turned on bright...
did not do frenching = no gfe = agreed!
did not moan much = no high high feeling = foreplay skipped? haha...
did not look .... during the course = no gfe = usually i like their face a bit frowned and mouth cannot closed totally like u made them too itchy... hehe
one qn: how come when i was $#@$ with no1 she always, "oiiii.... oiiii..." :confused:
sound funny leh,if during session,she oi oi here oi oi there,bro doggie u got poke wrong hole or not
Met her at 2pm, still as cheerful. Asked her whether can take off for that day to accompany me. She hesitated a while. I sensed that she is not too willing then i said I won't force her, then proceeded to tell her I am bringing her to a hotel to relax because she told me before she doesn't like to shop and she prefer staying at home to watch tv/drama.
So I brought her to a good hotel. Power on my notebook and connect to the LCD tv. Fired up some Vietnamese love song. Watched some Vietnamese love song MTV on youtube. Lie on bed, massage her head till she take short nap. Then some intimate moments as few times I tried to kiss her lips but did not. Because I told her before I am treating her as friend and tell her not to treat me as customer (this is for me to find out whether she takes a liking on me before I proceed on. I love having sex with someone who likes me).
Then she talked to her friend, then told me she not going work cause her friend also not going. I brought her to have dinner at nearby shopping centre then shop around cold storage, we bought potato chips and 1.5L mineral water for our movie at night on my notebook. (I downloaded "The Tourist" with vietnamese sub)
Soon it was approaching midnight, all the while she did not really show me any affection; just friend and occasionally hold my arm while walking.
We did not bath together as she ask me go out (though I did not ask if we can bath together). I tried initiate things; beginning to kiss and touch her a bit. She did hesitate a little. And when I try going further, she rejected me (in a good manner; without showing black face or whatever).
A while later, I tried again..same results. Then I sort of black face then I turn back on the light and use my PC. 10min later she came and ask me why don't sleep, I said I couldn't (without looking at her). 20min later I off the light and go to bed and try one last time. This time round she finally did not reject me. However, she did not do frenching and did not moan much. But few moments during the action, I can sense her reaching orgasm as she let out a bit of moaning unintentionally (SUPERB FEELING TO ME). She did not look at me during the course. And after I've unloaded, we hug and sleep. It was about 4am.
Morning around 10am I tried to initiate another round, but was rejected again as she said very tired and sleepy (they love to drink coffee and sleep). This time round I did not show black face; instead I said its ok and lets just sleep with me patting her.
A day later, she text me "ban lam vi jay" (what im doing) again. I said I'm going to sleep and apologise to her that I was a little aggressive to her that night; tell her to take care (because shes flying back in 3 days time). She did not reply until.....
seem like u are the one who make the first/most move for this relationship.Hope u dont blame her if this relationship fail
yeah the chance of securing her parents first... and hopefully their daughter will follow... but all of them conspire together... i will die cock stand(
No need to think so much,step by step,do not rush(although she will rush u because u are a foreigner)
The chances of her parents(if they are poor)to accept u is super high even though if your look like gangster,molester,rapist,idiot or a fucker
Their daughter is at her parents or family mercy (i hope not)so u have to go si mah lu pray like what they usually will go and pray that her parents did not give her not much problem on money
Everything is hard to say,there is no estimate or fix amount u can gauge to give her monthly.It depends on what u have learn from here and open your eye,control your didi and think with your mind and not your heart
No need to think so much,step by step,do not rush(although she will rush u because u are a foreigner)
Everything is hard to say,there is no estimate or fix amount u can gauge to give her monthly.It depends on what u have learn from here and open your eye,control your didi and think with your mind and not your heart
Thanks for telling. Yes Frm what I learnt Frm u guys the chances of her family accepting me is high. My intention to go her place is to let her parents accepting me or even better like me very much then hopefully their daughter will listen to their parents will. U get what I mean? Bcuz I realize sometimes gals will like u even more if her parents like u. It's just abt the matter of increasing my probability to hook/chain her up to me aka win in this kc thing with her.
But what will she rush me?
Yea I do hope her parents dun gv much problem on the money... Must go pray more often
Actually last time b4 I go vn to find her I did ask if I can go to her place. That time she say cannot la... Dun wan la... Her place nothing to play one la... Bla bla bla... It turns out she told me she nvr bring any guy back(dunno true or not)
Only after one month, when she got denied entry twice and she started to sms me alot complaining abt the ppl laugh at her and giving trouble on her debt and financing credibility... Then she start to ask me to go her place to help me lift "face"... So I wd want to take such opportunity to sharpen my game on her with the objective mentioned in the above paragraph.
So at this kind of stage I dun feel that I shd gv any sort of allowance yet... If she need money she go work... I dun wan to let her think I'm her monthly ATM.... And more importantly I dun wan to let her know I earn how much... And told her I got broke from losing in stock market since my hcm trip...
Anyway I'm just ranting.dun bother me if anyone finds me beyond redemption alrdy... But sincerely thanks for the great advice and great sharing of experience with vn gals...
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$500 or $1000 doesnt make much different, since you can make her "oiii... oiii" everyday for the whole month....
She shd pay me instead for that haha...
But anyway I really want to tell all the bros here that I wouldn't go such an extra mile if she's not my no1. But since I'm dealing with a WL... Extra caution, proper planning, careful $ management, sharp kc detecting skill, effective kc-ing skills on VB etc must be ready and kept improving...
That's the key concept I learn frm the bros/legends here...
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- The weakness of our heart is our most formidable enemy -
Thanks for telling. Yes Frm what I learnt Frm u guys the chances of her family accepting me is high. My intention to go her place is to let her parents accepting me or even better like me very much then hopefully their daughter will listen to their parents will. U get what I mean? Bcuz I realize sometimes gals will like u even more if her parents like u. It's just abt the matter of increasing my probability to hook/chain her up to me aka win in this kc thing with her.
But what will she rush me?
Yea I do hope her parents dun gv much problem on the money... Must go pray more often
Actually last time b4 I go vn to find her I did ask if I can go to her place. That time she say cannot la... Dun wan la... Her place nothing to play one la... Bla bla bla... It turns out she told me she nvr bring any guy back(dunno true or not)
Only after one month, when she got denied entry twice and she started to sms me alot complaining abt the ppl laugh at her and giving trouble on her debt and financing credibility... Then she start to ask me to go her place to help me lift "face"... So I wd want to take such opportunity to sharpen my game on her with the objective mentioned in the above paragraph.
So at this kind of stage I dun feel that I shd gv any sort of allowance yet... If she need money she go work... I dun wan to let her think I'm her monthly ATM.... And more importantly I dun wan to let her know I earn how much... And told her I got broke from losing in stock market since my hcm trip...
Anyway I'm just ranting.dun bother me if anyone finds me beyond redemption alrdy... But sincerely thanks for the great advice and great sharing of experience with vn gals...
your thinking make me think that u love her and wish to marry her,and want her parent to give the blessing to both of u
on one hand u sound like u love her and hope to marry her but on the other hand,u sound like u dont want to get too close to her and prefer kc first
marry her loh
are u prepare for all this hahaha
not even a a small amount like few hundred?
she work in vietnam little bit money,u can support her monthly?
no lah bro,everything is up to u,there is no right or wrong,u should have my blessing
your thinking make me think that u love her and wish to marry her,and want her parent to give the blessing to both of u
on one hand u sound like u love her and hope to marry her but on the other hand,u sound like u dont want to get too close to her and prefer kc first
marry her loh
are u prepare for all this hahaha
not even a a small amount like few hundred?
she work in vietnam little bit money,u can support her monthly?
no lah bro,everything is up to u,there is no right or wrong,u should have my blessing
hehe bro... u r right i love her and hope to marry her but not too soon as i learnt from the bros here that i shd at least know her for like 5 years before marrying her? i only know her for 3 months
actually i dun think she would mind the small amount of salary in viet nam... because she can work and shes working in a factory now. the thing is her debt and her family debt. i dun wan to be a kuku bird to pay for her and her family debt and end up either she run away or she say end r/s...
and i just learnt that she got a rival who always compare this and that with her... which makes her want to compete with that rival to save "face". i see this as a bad indicator... but what can i do about it?
i need to brain wash her enough before committing a few more steps further.
BUT more importantly, thanks to u bro golden question! thank you for your blessing. if i really do get married with her i will invite u to the kampong customary wedding
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Thanks for telling. Yes Frm what I learnt Frm u guys the chances of her family accepting me is high. My intention to go her place is to let her parents accepting me or even better like me very much then hopefully their daughter will listen to their parents will. U get what I mean? Bcuz I realize sometimes gals will like u even more if her parents like u. It's just abt the matter of increasing my probability to hook/chain her up to me aka win in this kc thing with her.
But what will she rush me?
Yea I do hope her parents dun gv much problem on the money... Must go pray more often
Actually last time b4 I go vn to find her I did ask if I can go to her place. That time she say cannot la... Dun wan la... Her place nothing to play one la... Bla bla bla... It turns out she told me she nvr bring any guy back(dunno true or not)
Only after one month, when she got denied entry twice and she started to sms me alot complaining abt the ppl laugh at her and giving trouble on her debt and financing credibility... Then she start to ask me to go her place to help me lift "face"... So I wd want to take such opportunity to sharpen my game on her with the objective mentioned in the above paragraph.
So at this kind of stage I dun feel that I shd gv any sort of allowance yet... If she need money she go work... I dun wan to let her think I'm her monthly ATM.... And more importantly I dun wan to let her know I earn how much... And told her I got broke from losing in stock market since my hcm trip...
Anyway I'm just ranting.dun bother me if anyone finds me beyond redemption alrdy... But sincerely thanks for the great advice and great sharing of experience with vn gals...
Bro ... there is ONLY 1 Solution ..
Leave the Game ... Leave the Gals ... VN Gals are NOT suittable for you ....
maybe you should have just F & F and thats it .. dun get involve ....
The reason why VN Gals Do NOt Ask you to her house is :
1. THey are TOO Ashamed to ask you back because of the condition of her house or they are too poor to your liking.
2. They are NOT ready to Accept you as her BF.
3. If they anyhow bring guys back , they will be termed as a very loose gals and the family got NO face.
4. Their parents will NOT ask you for $$$ coz you are not related and maybe you are related (depend on Luck I guess) ... My MIL NEVER ask me for $$$ for the past 3 years plus even though she owe her relatives 20M ....
5. THe parents SURE Accepted you COZ you are an Alien
6. YEs .. FACE Value is Very important in VN .. poor got poor value , rich got rich value ...
7. Allowance or not , it's up to you .. you have to play the game Right ... IF you think rather use the $$ for Bonking than giving it to her , I think you are not really for her and/or other gal that comes in ..
IMportantly !!! Who is this Girl to you ? ANy Ending with this Gal ? WHat End Results you want to be with her ? ONly you know !
Leave the Game ... Leave the Gals ... VN Gals are NOT suittable for you ....
why not suitable for me?
maybe you should have just F & F and thats it .. dun get involve ....
The reason why VN Gals Do NOt Ask you to her house is :
1. THey are TOO Ashamed to ask you back because of the condition of her house or they are too poor to your liking. yea at first it is. but after i told her im ok. she say "hmm... u come i let c. it's not like sgp." implies that i think her place is ok but she wan to show me that it is going to shock me.
2. They are NOT ready to Accept you as her BF. now she allow me to go to her house alrdy.
3. If they anyhow bring guys back , they will be termed as a very loose gals and the family got NO face. yes i reckon this is the thinking in her village.
4. Their parents will NOT ask you for $$$ coz you are not related and maybe you are related (depend on Luck I guess) ... My MIL NEVER ask me for $$$ for the past 3 years plus even though she owe her relatives 20M .... in fact she dun ask me to pay for her family debt.
5. THe parents SURE Accepted you COZ you are an Alien hope so?
6. YEs .. FACE Value is Very important in VN .. poor got poor value , rich got rich value ... YES!
7. Allowance or not , it's up to you .. you have to play the game Right ... IF you think rather use the $$ for Bonking than giving it to her , I think you are not really for her and/or other gal that comes in .. bro i gv her $500 last month when she got denied an entry to sgp. hvnt bonked her at all until now.
IMportantly !!! Who is this Girl to you ? ANy Ending with this Gal ? WHat End Results you want to be with her ? ONly you know !
End result: become a couple like that bro singviet and his wife, bro gq and his wife, and u and ur wife and one day in this forum i can proudly tell ppl about me and her story.
if i dun c future with her, i wouldnt have posted some much in this forum roi. just like me and my no2. i didnt care much...
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12-09-2011, 07:44 PM
