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[Hurricane88]

Ho Chi Minh City eyes tougher conditions for migrants to become permanent residents

At least 20 square meters in living space per person is required, according to the proposed plan

By Tuan Son / Tuoi Tre News March 3, 2018, 16:58 GMT+7



Ho Chi Minh City’s Department of Construction has made a controversial proposal to raise the minimum living space required for internal migrants to register as permanent residents by four times.

The proposed plan, aimed at relieving pressure from the city’s social and technical infrastructure, has been met with criticism from social experts who see little benefit from the new requirement.

According to Vietnam’s law on residency, citizens who want to register as permanent residents in a municipality must have a legal place of residence in the destination city and have been a temporary resident there for at least one year.

A legal place of residence can be either their own property or a rent one.

In the latter case, one applicant must obtain written permission from the house owners that they agree to have him or her register as a permanent resident in their residence book.

The application is only approved if that applicant has a minimum living space of five square meters in the house.

The municipal construction department has proposed increasing the required minimum living space by four times to 20 square meters per person.



Residence books, which tie a person to a permanent address, are issued to the house owner and contain information of all permanent residents who stay at the same address.

Having one’s name in a residence book in a major city like Ho Chi Minh City is a goal for many ‘undocumented migrants’ in Vietnam, as it allows them to enroll their children into local public schools, applying for certain jobs, enjoying welfare benefits and performing a range of administrative procedures.

The move by Ho Chi Minh City authorities has been viewed as a setback, considering the Vietnamese government already made a landmark decision last year to part with residence books in an effort to streamline administrative procedures and citizens’ documents.

he construction department has argued that the hike in internal migrants to the southern metropolis, while boosting its economy, has placed tremendous pressure on the city’s social and technical infrastructure.

The new living space requirement could solve problems including traffic congestion, pollution and overpopulation, it explained.

However, experts have pointed out that the proposed plan would do little to help elevate these problems Ho Chi Minh City is facing, as the internal migrants are still here to stay and work whether they are permanent residents or not.

“Resorting to living space conditions as a tool for residency management reflects an outdated mindset,” Assoc. Prof. Dr. Nguyen Ngoc Dien, vice rector of the University of Economics and Law in Ho Chi Minh City.

“Instead, authorities should start viewing social problems from an economic perspective and use economic drives to redirect the flow of migrants elsewhere.”

[crizpy]

Hi all, newbie to Vietnam.

Would like to ask if the rules of foreigner guy and Vietnamese girl not able to book a hotel room unless they are married still on? I tried to ask big brother goo ger but the post are quite outdated at 2010~2013.

Would airbnb be a better choice for stay or should i find hotel which are "guest friendly"?

any advise would be much appreciated. cheers

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Wet nam rich in hum supply becos the whoel east coast is sea...many varieties of hums....

Last year Apr 2017, went Do Son Haiphong surprising not crowded...

So now back to real seafoody hums and not the *ahem* liao huh???

Cheerios......SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

mai lah...cannot go budget airline...kakaka...

Wah lau, that is a GOOT problem to have....... tink they will clear the first 6 rows and let you be the only one to sit in Row 1, while your bodyguards sit in Row 2 onwards......

Cheerios......SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Luckily the cockroaches deserted HCM and now lesser of them.......

You never see "Terminator" meh.........."I will be back........"

As long as the cockroach cuntry gets richer, the cockroaches will only grow more, bigger and more arrogant.... even ulu ulu 3rd world cuntry like Laos they also overrun.....

Cheerios......SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

why should i be proud...since gahmen so rich can afford to pay and why makes citizens to pay in advance for facilities that I may not use...anyway netiznes already slam the gahmen for charging ADL...

The only thing I had agreed with their view is that not to easily dig into Sinkie reserves to fund for expansion and only in emergencies but unfortunately they never say anything about NOT increasing those reserves at the same time while taxing all Sinkies to fund the expansion, this I do not agree as the yearly increase in reserves definitely in some way have been contributed by those increased taxes other than their so-called "fiscal policies & investments"......

Cheerios.....SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

not yet...anyway we can book in advance before the ADL kicks in...but can only save till next year ticket...

Will be using T4 soon in one of the future trips...

I booked until next year March liao not selling beyond March 2019 yet Jetstar is worst only can book until early Jan nia nia....

Cheerios.....SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by naemlo

I have the member card, can use most of the lounges in the world.

I will get impatient when someone is waiting for me in the arrival hall or hotel. My hormone peaks and rushing while kena delays.

Wah thats even better, inter-neh-tional lounges access ne.....

I am impatient all the time, even queuing up behind anything I will get impatient liao....makan also if I see a big queue I will avoid and just buy something that have zero queues......maybe the only thing I will ever be willing to queue up for are SSSSSSYTs......

Cheerios.......SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by iicycold

wa brother, 30 yrs ago i stil singin mali kita in school lei....lol...chasin after sg gers in school uniform lei ,u aldy woking in btm, liao ah?!

actually hor,nwday if i bookin ger,i aso use their company 4 tcss & a stand-by pussy in case i get reli horny in middle of nite or durin early morning time...lol....it's always good 2 hv a ger give me bbbj like an alarm cock 2 wake me up in the mroning wat...lol....in btm,i still go out run ard but leave ger inside rm kind...lol.

Oh I started work very early mah when in primary school age ....kekekeke

I can never be able to do that, I will need her to go brush her teeth & mouth first or else I may faint the moment I catch a whiff of that "just woke up breath"

Cheerios.......SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by iicycold

tis 1 reli a big joke,custom officer check pp never look at face 1 meh? Then wat 4 hv sm1 tere 2 check pp,sm more so mani layers of checks...i tink every1 always hv tendency tink tat passenger wn't play punk de....

actually if 3 lvl of check is extra carefully check, it's actually enuff de...if 6 lvl check all no careful check ,give em 1000 lvl checks aso will is nvr enuff....
..

Maybe the son's face is chao lao then the father's face is those super young like mine mah......kekekeke

Cheerios.......SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

in the news...the airport claimed to handle 36 mil passengers whereby the airport was designed to handle capacity of 25 mil passengers per year...mistakes here will always gonna to happen no matter what the authorities implement all sorts of checks...

Real facts,

Airpork designed to handle 25mil passengers
Currently Airpork handling 36mil passengers
Custom counters designed to handle 25mil passengers
Custom officers only willing to handle 1mil passengers nia nia and does not includes cockroaches

Thats why got congestion problem.......

Cheerios......SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by naemlo

Every big cities are the same... traffic jam but Vietnam other than too many cars, they have too many bikes too

They have too many SSSSSYTs too...........but I am not cuntplaining.....

Cheerios.......SS08 ^_^

[snipeshot08]

Originally Posted by crizpy

Hi all, newbie to Vietnam.

Would like to ask if the rules of foreigner guy and Vietnamese girl not able to book a hotel room unless they are married still on? I tried to ask big brother goo ger but the post are quite outdated at 2010~2013.

Would airbnb be a better choice for stay or should i find hotel which are "guest friendly"?

any advise would be much appreciated. cheers

You can both book a room, though not to stay in the same room together if you are not married to each other especially in those 3 stars and above, best option in these type of hotels is to book 2 rooms under each of your individual names and problem solved

Most 2 stars & below may turn a blind eye but occasionally some may give you problems when you are there. Some may also insist that the girl must be the one that had checked in together with you in the first place. There are no fixed and fast rule, email the hotel to check if they have any restrictions to you bringing your vietnamese girlfrens in the night and keep your fingers crossed when you are there

Cheerios......SS08 ^_^

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by snipeshot08

So now back to real seafoody hums and not the *ahem* liao huh???

Cheerios......SS08 ^_^

all the while I am not so tiko...was referring to real hum...

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by snipeshot08

Wah lau, that is a GOOT problem to have....... tink they will clear the first 6 rows and let you be the only one to sit in Row 1, while your bodyguards sit in Row 2 onwards......

Cheerios......SS08 ^_^

mai lah...I din pay for seats so recently been seated from rows 20 and back...who cares about paying...