Rumoured Raids

[Rof|maoxz]

Originally Posted by WillamSexsphere

I was wondering, why do you guys allow the raids to continue so often?

Perhaps it's time to have a talk with our elected representatives to seek their counsel and advice..

Don't blame the guys,
Don't blame the drinks,
Don't blame the hot pipped music,

No gers, No hanky panky, No Raid..... Simple.

[TCSG]

Originally Posted by newbadass

Because we can't do anything about it. We are powerless to prevent them from doing their job. And we don't have enough motivation to do it. That is my frankest and most brutal assessment of the situation.
Talk so big, talk so long, logic machiam like poetry, and at the end of the day, are we going to do anything? Can we do anything? Would we do it even if we could?
Big fat NO.
All talk. That's the Singaporean lifestyle today.

dun like that lah brother.
What he said is true. We should be thanksfull that we still have people like himself who could voice out unhappiness and logic in general for everyone that are in the same position.
If we discourage him from speaking out, even if we know it is of no help, then this country will really be jialat liao.
Depend on our MP to speak on our behalf for such issues, can wait long long...

[tiger2]

you are right bro, even their MP like Mr Tan Soo Khoon who spoke out for the public like ( ERP = EVERY ROADS PAY ) than the next instant you can see him very quiet and nothing comes out from him, why? maybe our BIG BRO LKY invite him for a coffee talk.
so in Singapore who will voice out for you.
it is Teo Chew Er Huo ( chee kay koo chee kay )....

[newbadass]

Originally Posted by TCSG

dun like that lah brother.
What he said is true. We should be thanksfull that we still have people like himself who could voice out unhappiness and logic in general for everyone that are in the same position..

A lot of things said in politics are true. Just depends what context you say it in and how you present it. Just because a statement is true doesn't prevent it from being a lot of useless cock.

Besides, he asked "why do you guys allow it" and I answered. Because it is not up to us whether to allow it or not, so all we can do is LPPL and KPKB like a bunch of... well, Singaporeans.

[Peggie83]

I believe most of us here do not want to see those WLs up the police van

[S3vw]

Originally Posted by newbadass

If she wants tips, she stays. Very simple. Kenna caught also not your problem.

Of course, I wouldn't do this to my regulars. But my regulars probably wouldn't pull this stunt on me either.

so only regulars is human being...

[Optimus_Prime]

Originally Posted by Peggie83

I believe most of us here do not want to see those WLs up the police van

Well there are those who believe in the advert...

"Old ones dun go, New ones dun come..."

But they forgot to add... just so long as it's not my fav regular...keke..

[S3vw]

Originally Posted by laodi123456789

Please note that National Day is coming up in August. The country gets a spring cleaning for the festivities. Its good to remain veri low profile until celebrations are over.

do agreed with tat...

[fattyman]

Originally Posted by Ronsee

This applies to all types of girls from any country. I have seen and been in numerous situations when anti-vice police stormed Orchard Towers and the girl who was sitting with me got taken away right under my nose. Nothing i could really do about it though.

Pls don't sensatinonalize it, firstly they were taken away to check whether their travelling docs are proper & secondly if they were to take someone away there MUST be a reason & NOT without a reason. Who knows maybe 3 hrs after the inspection they were release again.

And 1 by 1 they check all the girls for their passports and those without VISAs or passport are immediately handcuffed and brought out. Those who had valid visas were asked why they were there and who they were with. If no satisfactory answer is given they will also be taken back and deported and banned from coming to Singapore for a few years.

Again pls don't sensationalize it you can deport a person unless they commit a crime. By deporting a person for not giving a satisfactory answer to the Police i don't think they can do that to a foreigner just like that.

I had a close friend who had a regular FL Viet girl from Joo Chiat who got caught at her hotel at Bencoolen street. Even though she had a valid 1 month VISA, the police still detained her for for 2 days and deported her back and banned her from Singapore for 3 years.

Pls don't confuse & sensationalize the readers here again, though she had a valid VISA the Police charged her for soliciting a client under the Prostitution Act without a valid licence thus being deported & BANNED her from entering Sinkeepore.

They don't deport someone without a reason.

[Ronsee]

I remembered 1 recent incident not so long ago when i was in OT and there was a raid. I had 1 pinoy sitting with me when anti-vice came in and conducted an ad-hoc search.

As usual lights were turned on (could tell which WL was pretty and which CMI ) and the lady were all told to move to 1 side of the pub near the counter. I told my girl to sit with me and within 30 secs an officer with a badge hanging from his neck approached me and asked me if i knew the girl and how she was related to me. At this point i could see that my pinoy girl was already freaked out..so i told the officer that i met her here and bought her some drinks and we were chatting together.

Even then the Officer still asked to check the pinoys passport and asked me politely if she could leave my table and stand along with the rest of the girls...i just nodded my head knowing that there was nothing much i could do to help her. The looked she gave me when she left my table make my heart sank...i felt bad and was angry that i couldnt do anything to help her. So i mustered my courage and approached the Officer who spoke to me and i asked him what was to happened to her...he said they will just talk to her and find out if they were suspected of illegally solicting for business there and over stayers.

At that i knew that she was a goner for sure and true enough she was taken away by the police in the end for questioning.

I can understand the feelings some brothers have against such raids but i guess its already something that we will need to live with as long as we r out to cheong.

Yes these things sucks and spoils the mood but then again its also up to us to overcome this and carry on with our night activities.

I know its easy to type it out....doing it is another thing though.

Just my 2 cents

[cjps]

Originally Posted by Ronsee

As usual lights were turned on (could tell which WL was pretty and which CMI ) and the lady were all told to move to 1 side of the pub near the counter. I told my girl to sit with me and within 30 secs an officer with a badge hanging from his neck approached me and asked me if i knew the girl and how she was related to me. At this point i could see that my pinoy girl was already freaked out..so i told the officer that i met her here and bought her some drinks and we were chatting together.

Brother must salute you. I once witness a RAID in TH and 1 of the cheongster doing same thing as you asking the girl to sit by his side kana up the van also.
The police officer then was not so nice.

[Ronsee]

Bro i dont think its anything wrong for us to be sitting with these WLs or FLs in the pubs when the raids are conducted. I dont see any reason why the police would ask me to go to the police station unless i got overly aggressive with the police officer.

Thats why its always good to be polite when talking to them and dont push our luck.

Honestly its not worth the trouble to get involved with the police over a working girl and then spoil our evening at the police station.

I believe the most we can do is to try to get some information from the police officer and then let the girl go if we know theres nothing much we can do to help them.

Just my 2 cents

[WillamSexsphere]

Originally Posted by newbadass

Because we can't do anything about it. We are powerless to prevent them from doing their job. And we don't have enough motivation to do it. That is my frankest and most brutal assessment of the situation.

Talk so big, talk so long, logic machiam like poetry, and at the end of the day, are we going to do anything? Can we do anything? Would we do it even if we could?

Big fat NO.

All talk. That's the Singaporean lifestyle today.

I can understand the vitrol directed against my post, but i failed to understand the author's vitrol against other singaporeans as well as his fatalistic outlook.

Very often, foreigners describe singaporeans as politically apathetic and understandably true. When discussions moved into the realm of politics, I too have a fear and not without valid reason.

We had been socially engineered since our birth to live for the collective good, a democracy different from others whereby the majority rule through a concensus amongst its legislative and the executive. We do have freedom, but it comes with a responsibility for the consideration of others.

And who created and agreed to such constitution? None other than us, for without us and our agreement to mutual social obligations, represented by our elected officials to parliament, Spore would not had been a success story and would have been long swallowed by our rapacious and envious neighbours.

The thing is, if our displeasure is voiced within upheld laws on freedom of speech, and not even within a mile close to the 'out of bounds' markers set up by the authorities, why fear to speak out decisively on our collective displeasure?

Instead of directing his frustrations at my post, should not he, who claimed to a fellow brother cheongster and equally upset with the constant raids, contribute something more worthy to let the authorities, who may had overlook it's staff zealousness or manipulation by greedy hypocrites, to see further into our displeasure?

Why fight against one another and be divided instead of uniting in a more conduceive manner and explore constructive ways to solve our brothers' predicament through a simple open discussion, of a situation that is NON-POLITICAL anyway but just a concern about the civil service and the doings of our fellow singaporeans civil servants who had disrupted our quiet enjoyment constantly as well as their treatment of certain female tourists on our island?

It is my fervant hope that he do not assume that just because he adopts a fatalistic approach and do not wish to do anything about the situation, generalize that everyone thinks like him. Read up on the Amue Athu case. Now that's a brave and courageous Singaporean.

For once, it is my plea that the author uses his bigger head to reflect on the phrase ' The pen is mightier than the sword'. Swords may subjugate others and aquire territories, but it is the logically and rationalised spoken or written words that conquers the hearts and minds of mankind since the dawn of civilisation from a barbaric existance.

If he is still not aware, then let it be known to him that not only cheongsters come to SBF. There are 'others' too.

Hope for a change begins with a word from the mind. If the majority does not think alike, then such hope of change dies off like a lazy afternoon's breeze. However, should the majority think and feels alike, such wind gathers into a storm and reacts with a force of a hurricane.

Better a directed storm into a teacup than an uncontrollable hurricane fury.


Cheers!

[newbadass]

Originally Posted by S3vw

so only regulars is human being...

Wah, all the smart people coming out.

[S3vw]

Originally Posted by newbadass

Wah, all the smart people coming out.

nvr proclaim i am one....