To all samsters,
Happy Lunar New Year!
Huat Ah!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by Kimjongnam
Bro WB
Certainly a long post from your European guru trying to explain why rejection is never the end but the beginning.
From the lenghty post, I learned that we must remain calm and non-reactive after been rejected...............
Nowadays I practised mode one and straight tell the gal I want to f**k her. Usually will tell the gal she very ugly too and no praise even she is the prettiest gal in the group. I refused to buy her any drink or buy her any gifts. Just take down her contact and remain in contact.
I hope my reading above is correct and will continue to read more.
So bro WB, please share more with us and more gurus teachings.
Hoep you did enjoyed your CNY celebrations and huat ah.
Cheers.
Bro,
Tks for your post.
You're mode one. But never insult a girl/woman, in fact, never insult anyone.
Be kind and friendly to all.
Treat the prettiest girl and the ugly or elderly women the same. Don't forget, the elderly woman may hv a very cute granddaughter.
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Originally Posted by lienlac
Bro WB
Now I really don't want to be needy after reading your post above.
1. I will not be leaning and remain in my position even when gal trying to talk to me. If she not interested DGAD.
2. Learned from previous bros post, tell her she looks ugly and only thing pretty is her dress.
3. No way to buy her any gifts
4. Remain nonchalant even she trying to get my attention.
5. yes, reply 1 word each time she text.
6. never be sensitive whatever she does or say.
7. Always disagree with whatever she said. Let her panic.
Any better suggestions/comments?
Bro WB, I really appreciate all your postings and hope you keep this up.
Have a great day!!
Bro, tks.
I agree except the two below.
2) If a gal is very pretty, don't tell her she is ugly. Do point out some physical flaws she has. Praise her for acquired attributes and accomplishments, not inherited assets.
7) Agree w/ her if what she says is correct to you. Disagree w/ her when you think she is wrong.
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Originally Posted by azureontology
Welcome Bro Warbird!
I believe if you are not going for level 3, it is because level 3 requires time, and time is a precious commodity, more precious than money for you..
If a girl does not need money (hence that is why an allowance is not needed), then the girl is solely motivated by emotional needs offered by the guy.
The "cost" now shifts to your companionship (your time) and her schedule is dictated by hours that the girl is not working - ie. she cannot just simply accommodate your schedule, because of her working hours.
(unless the girl herself is a rich daughter, and does not need to work - then she will demand your attention, i.e. even more of your time.)
However, if you pay her the allowance, then you are effectively her "boss" as well. So her "working" time, is also dictated by you. (as well as the requirements of her "work".)
Hence, I believe that is the main reason you chose to stay at level 2, rather than lacking in requirements to fulfill level 3.
I hope to join you some day in your "free" viewing session, given that I am also someone who dislike smoke (and was wondering if I can ever find similar people who do not smoke in such places - and I realised we are quite alike in this aspect), and I would like to see how you assess beauties in such a short time, especially when the place is not exactly well-lit, and I assume that the girls will be fleeting.
I am curious though - with so many young and pretty LPs, do you still copulate with your wife when you are back in the Big Apple (or when she is in town)?
Bro,
Time is more important than money.
I'm still at level 1 and 2.
When I see a girl who is interesting, I'll move closer to get a good look. If she appears to be my type, I'll get her contact info.
For your last question. Not for a long time.
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Originally Posted by OneFM913
bro WB,
I learned from you in this privilege thread.
1. Guys must practice self-mastery and have greatest emotional strength.
2. Guys must face rejections and not bad thing.
3. Guys must never be needy because needy is ugly.
4. Guys must have abundance mindset and think that there are 200 women waiting to sleep with you.
5. Guys must never fall in love in the r/s.
6. Guys must pratice by approaching 200 gals.
I agreed that some gal just like to sleep around for thrills but we must always look at it that is not a bad thing. Meaning you can dump her and have new gal.
Hope bro can comment above and post more for us.
Hope you had a great CNY too.
Cheers.
Bro, tks for your post.
You're a lady killer if you meet all the six requirements.
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Originally Posted by rachbungbinh
Bro WB, I would love to have great mindset with all women.
Making love with younger syts will make older man heart grew younger too. .....................When you dun need a woman then you are attractive to her. This message was quite tough to comprehend.
Anyway love to read most of your posts and hope you keep posting.
Have a nice day.
Please enjoy!!
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Originally Posted by rachbungbinh
Bro WB,
Not easy for any ordinary guys t go overseas to find chio gals and import. Of course here I said not easy but to some of you and your kakis maybe easier. You have the capability to do so and did so many times.
Yes self mastery is important and gals maybe easy.
Keep sharing spirit.!!
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Bro,
Tks for your posts.
Your right mindset is the key to getting all the girls.
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Originally Posted by carbontax
Bro WB
The legend hero Zhao Zilong is a forklore hero because he single-handedly defeated an army and rescue the Prince from death. After that he was a white armour battle hero..............................
Very interesting to go thru and read all your past posts.
Many may not agree or disagree with you but you are hero to many readers here.
Wish you have a great weekend.
Bro,
Tks. I'm no hero.
I encourage bros here to post dissenting views. I'm eager to learn.
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Originally Posted by truongsa
Bro WB
Thanks for having a great excellent thread here.
After reading so much of your stories and factual posts, I thought you had retired. Seems that you are not from the above post and still very busy.
Care to comment?
Thanks for the comment below.
"I shall do my best.
Yeah, all men should aspire to be a PRESTIGIOUS MAN. Self-assured, tough-minded, assertive but easy going, kind and very comfortable in his own skin. And developing a skill that brings value to society..."
Summary -
Self-assured - confident in one's own abilities or character. Can be assertive too.
Tough-minded - strong, determined, and able to face up to reality.
Assertive - strong, determined, and able to face up to reality.
Easy Going - relaxed and tolerant in approach or manner.
Kind - a group of people or things having similar characteristics.
Very comfortable in his own skin - Displaying a relaxed confidence in and clear understanding of oneself and one's abilities, especially when presenting oneself to or interacting with other people.
From above we can clearly see the point you are trying to make is to say man really has to be easy and tough minded to handle gals.
Hope I get the correct message.
Have a great Sunday.
Bro, tks for your comments.
Be 80% dominant and assertive, 20% kind and caring.
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Originally Posted by ChefEx
Bro WB
Thanks for giving us so many insights to your life. Also very kind of you to invite us to join you to look see.
If any gal is 160 then rather tall for a gal. Many Asians women are short and of course they are changing due to the diet.
Fully agreed with you that any guy should not think his gal is special. Losing her will not be a bad thing because if any gal dun love you then no point keeping her.
Not see by the way but have to be done.
Hope Bro WB continue to post more and I shall contribute my part.
Have a nice week.
Thanks.
Bro,
Tks for your post.
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Originally Posted by pose
Bro WB
Quite interesting post reply above. Here we are discussing picking up gals that fall into the nite life entertainment sector. These gals are here to make money and milk as much as possible from men who patronized.
Often than not, these working gals are exposed to men who willing to throw money at them for sex. Right that the gals will pick and choose their partners.
So bro WB self-mastery and other skills guide will be useful here.
Any comments?
Also very nice of bro WB to explain his LPs. This show bro WB willing to import the gal and kept here.
Hope to read more and learn more from bros.
Please keep this thread longer.
Have a great working day.
Cheers.
Bro,
Tks. Girls/women are most attracted to a man's masculine behaviour and body language/voice.
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Originally Posted by phamvantroi
Bro WB
I agreed with you that self-mastery is not self control. Is actually self-confident and assertive like the other bro posted earlier.
Internal strength is important as for emotionally strong guys.
" Emotionally strong people ...
are less discouraged by setbacks and disappointments.
are more adaptable to change.
are able to recognize and express their needs.
focus on getting around a hurdle rather than on the hurdle itself.
can learn from mistakes and criticism.
tend to see the larger perspective in a challenging situation.
are able to recover more quickly from emotional wounds such as failure or rejection."
Always love to read thru all yoru posts and following quite closely.
So hope can post more to share with us.
Have a great day!!
Bro, tks for your post.
You're right.
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Originally Posted by besafe
这心灵鸡汤熬了好久啊。
战鸟大哥,你真行。
Bro,
Good to hear from you.
Every encounter is a learning experience.
Why do women moan loudly during sex and scream when they are orgasing?
"Female Copulatory Vocalization" means Woman Scream During Sex. Men are biologically wired to want to make their woman moan. It means you're doing a good job. Which, in turn, means you'll get invited back inside her velvety love-cave again.
Researchers have discovered that in primate species the promiscuous females moan during sex.
This is in spite of the obvious dangers of predators discovering and attacking them while they're vulnerable. Scientists say it's an evolutionary biological reason.
It's now been proven across all cultures that women are vocal leading up to orgasm but only in the primate species where females are promiscuous does this occur.
For example, in gorillas, the females are monogamous and therefore not vocal during copulation.
Why is moaning and screaming during sex beneficial to women biologically?
Researchers have determined that a woman will vocalize to attract more males to copulate with her when the current male is done.
This behavior of mating with more than one male at a time enables sperm competition.
Why is moaning and screaming during sex beneficial to women biologically?
Researchers have determined that a woman will vocalize to attract more males to copulate with her when the current male is done.
This behavior of mating with more than one male at a time enables sperm competition.
The more males a woman copulates with, the higher probability she'll conceive a healthy offspring.
To further underscore this reproduction imperative, scientists have confirmed that the male sperm has biologically evolved to fertilize an egg in an environment where it's mixed with ejaculate from other males. The penis is also designed to scrape out competitive sperm after ejaculating when the penis is pulled out of the vagina.
Female humans are fundamentally a polyamorous (love many) species biologically designed to have sex with multiple males when they're aroused.
Dr. Helen Fisher says that during her cross-cultural research, she discovered the majority of women and men are both promiscuous throughout their lives. If cultural norms for monogamy were not established, most humans would have a series of primary relationships for child-rearing and companionship combined with a series of shorter term sexual relationships.
Dr. Fisher estimates that a majority of married people have serial affairs over the years, even if they don't tell anyone about it. She believes this is the normal biological way humans actually live.
Bro WB,
Why do women moan loudly during sex and scream when they are orgasing?
"Female Copulatory Vocalization" means Woman Scream During Sex. Men are biologically wired to want to make their woman moan. It means you're doing a good job. Which, in turn, means you'll get invited back inside her velvety love-cave again.
I love this topic because woman moan loudly makes me feel great and excitement wanted to thrust her harder and deeper. Agreed with the article that woman always wanted to make love with me when they scream loudly during love making.
Some women body will tremble and orgasms with excitement. Will fell the gush of wetness rushing out of her vagina onto the penis if she was doing cowboy position. Then after huge orgams she will collapsed hugging you and panting heavily trying to breathe. Often the woman will be fully sextified and will not try to cheat.
Any more comment?
"To further underscore this reproduction imperative, scientists have confirmed that the male sperm has biologically evolved to fertilize an egg in an environment where it's mixed with ejaculate from other males. The penis is also designed to scrape out competitive sperm after ejaculating when the penis is pulled out of the vagina."
Bro,
Tks. I'm no hero.
I encourage bros here to post dissenting views. I'm eager to learn.
Bro, tks for your comments.
Be 80% dominant and assertive, 20% kind and caring.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Bro WB
To me Zhao Zilong is a folk legend hero. He had been to so many battles that he basically had no timeto fall in love. However he been a gentleman and scholar, he will not be keen to just anyhow bonk any gals that threw themselves at him.
If he is a hero in modern time then I believe things will be different.
As for 80-20 rules, I fully agreed with you. 80% of male dominance and 20% caring for her and family. Many gals will be willing to fall for guy who loves her family.
I will start to read the thread from the beginning and checking also the recent entries.
I'm starting this new thread on an interesting but controversial subject. My apologies if it's offensive to some bros here. Picking up KTV gals outside KTVs would be very difficult for me bcos I'm constrained by time n circumstances...but these gals can be picked up while going to or coming from KTVs, outside their schools, in restaurants, etc.
I risk being zapped by KTV owners/mummies/managers/waiters...but I still want to share what little experience n success I hv had w/ bros here. Everyone is welcome to contribute n share...hope that this is like throwing rock to lure jade, hahaha. Can an old chi ko pek like me pick up young n beautiful gals outside a KTV? The answer is ABSOLUTELY YES. It would be a lot easier for those younger bros w/ ample time. You need a very thick skin which is immune to rejections n, yes, u will still need sufficient money to woo n bed these PRC MMs. But u will save quite a bit by picking them outside KTVs.
Why would I want to pick up these gals outside KTVs?
I hv many personal reasons.
1) I drink very little if at all
2) I dun sing
3) I dun smoke n hate 2nd hand smoke
4) I detest loud noise
5) The dim lighting in a typical KTV makes it difficult to gauge a gal's looks n age.
6) The drinks, etc in a typical KTV r expensive. This money can do wonders if u give it to the gal directly...
7) Oftentimes, ur favourite mummy may recommend a gal who is less than ur type n u accept reluctantly bcos u r pai seh.
8) Or a gal may throw herself at u, especially embarrassing if she is someone whom u hv bonked or worst, ur ex-mistress, whom u now try to avoid.
9) Picking up a young n pretty gal outside KTVs is adventurous n a challenge. I feel like 20 again...
10) Organising KTV outings is time-consuming n difficult...
Despite the above reasons, I'm still fully committed to my frequent KTV expeditions as posted under Tian An Men KTV. My two approaches r not mutually exclusive, rather, they r complimentary. I leave no stone unturned, hehehe.
Let me give u a recent example which merely hints at the many possibilities...Day before yesterday was my lucky day. While loitering outside PC, I spotted 2 PRC gals waiting for a taxi along Selegie Rd. The taller gal was my type. She was pretty, cute n sweet, about 23-24, tall (about 166-167 w/o heels), fair complexion, big boobs (looks C-cup but not sure natural or not), slim w/ proportionate figure, nice perky ass n long straight legs. I approached her immediately. She was so friendly n her smile was so sweet!
She told me she just left DC n was going to TAM becos a client had called her to go. We quickly exchanged names n HP nos n she was gone in 2 minutes. I visualized how it would feel to kiss her pretty lips, suck her large nai nai...my didi stiffened...
Yesterday, I took her to dinner at an ocean front seafood restaurant in a chauffeured limousine. She told me she had been in SGP since CNY, came from CQ, now on a 2-yr work permit?? She had flawless, fair n smooth skin, beautiful large eyes...very little makeup...very sexy body...I noticed her large LV bag worth over 3k, which she claimed was given to her by her ex-BF in China...hmmm. We talked a lot..including my problems w/ my Fujian gal. She told me that 宁德 gals r notoriously cunning n often deceitful...I told her to take a look at my FJ gal at DC.
Unfortunately, she made it too easy as I could kissed her in the car n she shyly agreed to go to a "secure n safe place" next week. My interest in her has already dropped 50%. She should hv played hard to get to give me more fun in chasing her. In fact, when I first SMSed her, I was worried that she would reject a DOM like me n hence I arranged to go in a chauffeured limousine. I did give her a nice tip for spending time w/ me. I'll not call her to come to TAM Monday as she requested bcos I'm going hv her regardless. I'll just meet her in a hotel in a few days, hahaha.
Pls share ur experience n strategies in picking up KTV gals OUTSIDE KTVs.
Of cousre if u wait for the chio ones in ur chauffeured limousine n offer to give them a free lift, it would make it too easy. It's also unfair competition.
Thx for reading n hv a great day!!
Bro, nice thread and started to read from beginning.
I must say you are very sincere in your approach and no wonder you were successful.
I hated gals that threw herself to any men too. This shows that gal only keen to be the best actress and no way keen to show any affection.
Usually I will collect gal number and try to say a bit of story. Hopefully the story will kick her mind and text me to show some affection after we split. If gal dun text me usually I shall just erased the number within 2 days. And if she text me after 2 days, I shall try to replyher only after 3 to 5 dayshad passed.
I am not sure which method was correct but so far it works pretty well for me.
Care to discuss and share more if you have any other theory.
Hi bro, I hope I dont offend you in anyway. But all PRCs women are deceitful & manipulative IMHO.
My story is kinda sidetracked. So bros who are not interested in reading please do not zap me. Coz I really need to let off some steam, thank you
I recently got to know a PRC girl from a supermarket. She kinda stared at me on several occasions so I decided to talk to her. Eventually, one fine day I wanted to get her number but in the end she took my number instead. (She didnt even key in my no in her mobile)
Well, several days later she sms me,later we spoke on the phone for the 1st time. 1 thing strange about her is that never seem to like to chat for long regardless who made the call.(she's on hi card, btw)
Long story short, met up with her twice outside, late both times also nvm, I'm ok with it. But the 2nd time, was the worst made me waited 1 hr.
For both occasions, I asked her what time & why she slept so late. She "claimed" that she was watching movies online. Then, when I start calling her in the evening or tried to ask her out for dinner.
The part where I call her in evening, her mobile would be always off. Only to return calls or sms the next day. Even its her OFF day, when I contact her
That's when I'm suspecting she might be moonlighting at KTVs. Call me emotional but I do kinda like (not in a sexual way as in I wanna bang her right away) this girl alot coz she's my type
So afew days back, I made a decision. Coz I see no pt risking my 6yrs relationship with my gf over this PRC.
She sms back the next morning (the usual behaviour)
PRC: good morning
me: good morning, U are?
PRC: did U del my number
me: ignored
PRC: call 1 (rejected)
PRC: sms (I del, didnt bother to read)
Blah, blah.... till in the evening, she use a fixed line to call but i made some stupid excuses. She got pissed & said never to call again.
I was kinda tramatise & relieve coz I really find her backgrd abit dubious. So no pt dating this type of ppl.(for me)
Of coz, if all bros wanna screw them just go ahead. I have no objections.
Just dont get emotional thats all.
Boss, if U find this post more suited to matters of the heart, pls shift it there, thank you
This story is typical example back in 2009 whereby PRC women came here to work in ktv and nightlife.
Let me highlight back then in 1995 to 1999 when the PRC just started to come and most ktvs were filled with all these long legged beauties. The PRC women back then were hungry and willing. Most were keen to do ST or LT depends on price. Since arrival of the PRC, the locals minah will stripped and bj in the room just to compete.
One particular ktv which closed down due to the women all willing to bj in the room and some farking in the toilet or darkened ktv room.
Back then Lido and those higher end ktv each at least have 200 to 300 per night. Competition were stiff and the women compete ferociously for cash.
Saw some guys threw money at the women just to ensure they won. Bidding start when more than 2 guys keen and mummy usually dun make decisions unless super regular. And the super regular already had their top choice woman reserved with a room cost around 1k onwards.
I am not sure if my story matches but would like to hear more if anyone keen to share.
The early responses to this new thread r most encouraging.
I shall call the gal whom I picked up CC which aptly describes her C-cup (not sure natural at this time). My RS w/ her is still ongoing n I shall provide details of my escapade w/ her. However I'll not provide any personal details to protect her ID.
CC is a delightful young woman, though at 24 not exactly a SYT. She may hv changed my mind for wanting even younger gals. She is knowledgeable n a good conversationalist. She is very confident, smart n she loves to cook. She is a handsome woman n exudes sexual power...she makes a wonderful companion... She fits all the criteria for the type of gal I want except that she is at the upper range in age (18-24).
I plan to meet up w/ her within 2-3 days.
I know I'll hv her pussy for 2 reasons. First, she willingly let me kiss her several times. I was the one who made them brief. An experienced fren told me a long time ago that if a CHN gal willingly let u kiss her, u will hv her pussy, it's only a matter of time. He has been over 95% correct. In fact the reverse is not true as a lot of PRC FLs/WLs/KTV gals will let u fxk them but disallow kissing. Second, I casually asked if she could accompany me to HK for a few days. She replied YES w/o the slightest hesitation.
I didn't call nor SMS-ed her yesterday. I dun want to appear too needy...
I also hv made one interesting observation. My Fujian gal n CC appear very confident, classy n attractive...for which they share a similarity. Their extremely erect posture, whether standing, sitting or walking....hmmm. If a tall n very pretty gal appears in front of u but her back is a bit hunched...her attractiveness will plummet at least 80-90%.
The one thing anyone can do to instantly improve his/her body language n attractiveness is to hv an erect posture...
Thx for reading n hv a great day!!
Bro, similar to Bro vinasun, I just started reading your great thread.
Since 2009 you already a laojiao with your tactics and knew what you keen to share with us.
Fully agreed that if any gal allow you to kiss then you have her pussy. many working ladies are not keen to kiss but willing to f**k for money.
I did asked the gals why they don't allow kissing. One gal replied saying why bother because not keen to fall in love and only here to make money. Seems that most of these gals shared plenty of dos and don'ts when they were here for transit.
I flew to sichuan with a gal when she went back after her student visa expires. She will be back after 2 months if her student pass approved. In the meantime spent few days with her and friends in Chengdu touring and feasting. Of course also bonking.
This story is typical example back in 2009 whereby PRC women came here to work in ktv and nightlife.
Let me highlight back then in 1995 to 1999 when the PRC just started to come and most ktvs were filled with all these long legged beauties. The PRC women back then were hungry and willing. Most were keen to do ST or LT depends on price. Since arrival of the PRC, the locals minah will stripped and bj in the room just to compete.
One particular ktv which closed down due to the women all willing to bj in the room and some farking in the toilet or darkened ktv room.
Back then Lido and those higher end ktv each at least have 200 to 300 per night. Competition were stiff and the women compete ferociously for cash.
Saw some guys threw money at the women just to ensure they won. Bidding start when more than 2 guys keen and mummy usually dun make decisions unless super regular. And the super regular already had their top choice woman reserved with a room cost around 1k onwards.
I am not sure if my story matches but would like to hear more if anyone keen to share.
Bro, similar to Bro vinasun, I just started reading your great thread.
Since 2009 you already a laojiao with your tactics and knew what you keen to share with us.
Fully agreed that if any gal allow you to kiss then you have her pussy. many working ladies are not keen to kiss but willing to f**k for money.
I did asked the gals why they don't allow kissing. One gal replied saying why bother because not keen to fall in love and only here to make money. Seems that most of these gals shared plenty of dos and don'ts when they were here for transit.
I flew to sichuan with a gal when she went back after her student visa expires. She will be back after 2 months if her student pass approved. In the meantime spent few days with her and friends in Chengdu touring and feasting. Of course also bonking.
Hope to keep up my reading.
Please comment if any.
Cheers.
Bro WB, similar to most samsters here, I just started reading your great thread. Hope to read more.
I like to say good morning n many thanks to all esteemed fellow samsters for ur active participation in the discussion.
Sadly, I didn't up this gal CC yesterday bcos of her augmented boobs! Not a complete lost for she told me some of the trade secrets of these KTV MMs. One revelation is that 100% of PRC MMs who work at KTVs would love to be BAO-ed. Yes, 100% not 99%. Working in KTVs is extremely stressful, both physically n emotionally.
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Bro WB
Nice sharing here!!.
Only from close insider sources we shall get juicy stories or gossips. Not surprised to learn that 100% of these ktv gals are Bao-ed.
If we calculate the cost we will be able to figure out.
Figures based on estimates of 2009 rates:-
Air tickets - S$ 300
Agent fees - S$ 2,000
Room rental - S$ 500 based on sharing basis.
Food - S$ 300.00 per month.
Cosmetics - $ 200 per month
Dress - S$200 per month
Transport - S$ 200per month
Send money home -S$ 2,000 per month
Miscellaneous - S$ 200 per month
Student pass - S$ 2000.00 per quarter
Did I miss out any other expenses?
All these ktv gals will really keen to go all out to earn and milk as much as possible from their bf/clients.
"Can an old chi ko pek..." merely reaffirms the possibility of successfully picking up these gals outside KTVs, while making no mention of the time n effort required for such success. It is indeed time consuming n success is a function of chance n randomness. I therefore concludes that "it would be more cost effective..."
It's actually called Sophia Food Mall on the 1st floor of PC. Apparently, from 3-4 PM n around 3AM many KTV gals take their meals there, mostly by themselves, not in the company of their male clients. What r u waiting for?
Good day!
Bro WB
Thanks for starting such an awesome thread.
"Title - Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs"
Nothing wrong with the title and prove to be a successful thread.
I fully agreed that pickup gals outside can be more costly than going inside and get a ST or LT. The only difference is the thrill to try get the gal you want after observing her from outside. Also very fortunate to have a companion going out for meals or coffee usually before the gal goes to work at night.
I remembered the whole stretch of Sophia road then was plenty of condo and the road heading up to the top was pretty nice. Some of the gals living there and opposite staying at HDB rental flats.
Steam shiok to see some the PRC gals coming out to shop at NTUC or buying food at the food court. Often can see the gals with one guy and paying for the rest or going to the restaurant up in the multi-story carpark. Cannot remember the restaurant name after so long. Quite run-down but serve decent food. If I am not wrong teh restaurant no longer operating today.