I love it when we can do whole day foreplay. This makes me recall in my past, when I have a steady gf. She loves to be naked under the sheets. Also a clean hygiene freak. Will always shower before heading to bed.
Used to make love once in the morning after waking up. Then again after breakfast and coffee. We usually skip lunch and we will cuddle till around late noon before going out to shop followed by dinner. Before we go usually have one or two rounds. Followed by one more before bedtime.
Need to read more of your thread to get more ideas how to date.
Guy with excellent self-mastery dictates the r/s and conversations. He controlled everything.
The girl just missing his farking and nothing else. He can sqwaked forever but hell she loves the sex.
As for Sir warbird doing the same thing as the book says.
What an excellent effort Sir warbird doing.
Well keep been young and get your rewards coming.
Cheers.
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Originally Posted by warbird
Good morning!
At this time I like to recommend a great e-book: David X's Be Relentless.
I'll quote some of his writings from time to time to whet ur appetite:
I lived in Texas for two years and when I came back to Montreal I called up this woman that I used to go out with. And she was extremely pissed off at me for just getting up and leaving without telling her goodbye. I said, “You were the first one I called. I’m looking at my list and you came in with the highest rating. Now is there a chance for me to come over or not? I’m too horny to argue.” She said, “Come over.” So I went over and fucked her.
After I finished, she sqwaked for another two hours. I let her complain (who cares what they say) while I went to sleep. In the morning she made me breakfast and sqwaked for another two hours. Finally I asked, “How long do I have to take your complaining for? How much sqwaking is two years in Texas worth?” And she said, “I’m almost done.” How much is two years in Texas worth? Yes I didn’t call. Yeah, I fucked tons of other women. No, I wasn’t thinking about you. Yeah yeah yeah. You’re so right honey!
Ok, fine, she’s right. I’m a terrible man. But they like bad boys. Remember that Seinfeld episode when George was the bad boy? He decided to do the complete opposite of what he had always done, and all of a sudden he had more women than ever. It’s a fact that women like bad boys.
Now, every once in a while, and especially as you learn to develop this attitude, a woman might tell you that she loves you. And if you say, "I love you too", then you're fucked! You might as well chop off your dick and hand it to her..... Remember: He who loves least controls the relationship. I have only said, "I love you" to two women in my life. I married them both. I tell them, "I’ll tell you that I love you when I’m putting a ring on your finger.”
When you set a precedence you have to stick to your guns. If you tell her no, then later on for whatever reason you allow her, she will view you as weak. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Stop making excuses and stop making exceptions. When you set a precedence you can't go back. One of the big diseases that happens to men that are in a relationship is laziness.
You have to do what YOU want relentlessly. You cannot give in ever. They want the strength and they will love you for it. You always have to be on top of the situation. What happens to most guys is that once they fuck her,
they doze off. They get lazy.
I hv noticed that many of my regular kakis/bros/frens r not spending as much n r shunning more expensive joints. Some bros/frens hv definitely fallen on hard times, due to business failures, stock declines, gambling losses, etc.
Of the new bros who hv joined my outings recently, a few r well heeled. One young man appears to be from a rich family, even though he is quite frugal. I like him very much as he understands that we must minimize the friction cost of living n all business transactions.
Although the bookies n ah longs r big spenders at KTVs/HFJs n appear to be flushed w/ cash. They can never be truly rich.
Why?
Four reasons. Firstly, they squander their money. Secondly, it's difficult for them to invest n grow their money legally. Thirdly, they lack the knowledge , experience n education to invest successfully. Fourthly, the risks of running an illegal business r real. Their assets could be seized n they could spend time at Changi, hahaha.
As men we should go after what we want, be it money, status, fame, power, good health, love, peace, happiness, pussies...
Cheers!
Bro WB
Bro WB
Very interesting thread here.
After more than 2 yrs, som eof your kakis falling into tough time. I wonder how they are flushed with cash all the time if they are not ah long or bookies.
Well this shows that to go long term because this thread still alive till 2018 meaning TS bro have the financial power to sustain long term.
At this time, I like to share some pearls from David X's Be Relentless:
TWO RULES, NOT TWO HUNDRED
I’m giving you two rules. Not two-hundred. TWO. Who cares what she thinks, and you are the most important person in the relationship. And at first, they sound like two very stupid rules. But everytime you hear them, they start to make more and more sense to you. If you don’t care what she thinks, then your fears are gone. And if you truly believe that you are the most important person in the relationship, then you start to take responsibility for your own life. It forces you to be strong, decisive, honest and congruent. What you decide is up to you. I’m not telling you to be me, I’m telling you to be you.
You’re not being rude to her by not caring what she says. There’s a façade of nonsense that people put out, and you don’t know if they’re playing games or fucking with you. These two rules are your shield from all that shit. These rules really have a way of cutting through all the crap.
Men are free until they get married, and women are free when they get married. Once I was dating this girl who said, “Either we have to get married, or I won’t sleep with you anymore.” And I felt bad. Here was this woman telling me that she loves me, that she wants to spend the rest of her life with me. She wanted all of me, and if I couldn’t give that to her, then she would leave me forever. A lot of guys actually got stuck that way. They fell for that line. But what was this woman really saying to me? She was really saying, “Do what I say, puppy! Marry me so that I can use sex to control you for the rest of your life.” Now, if you had a harem of 5 or 6 women, and a woman said that to you, what would you say? "Goodbye!"
A lot of guys are afraid to look at the women that attract them. They're afraid she might get upset. If I’m watching a porno movie, if I feel like it, I might start jerking off. Do I care what the TV thinks? I don’t care what anybody thinks. Period. When I say ‘who cares’, I live it. If she can’t handle me looking at her, what the fuck do I want her for?
Tell me to fuck off anytime. Try me. I don’t care. If you don’t care, you can just let go and have a good time. What do I have to lose if they get 'offended'? I can only gain. When you’re trying to pick up a chick, no matter what you do, you can ONLY GAIN. You can’t have less than zero. If you care what they think of you, then you can’t go further. And if you can’t be honest and straightforward about what you want, you can’t succeed with women. This whole book is just a way of explaining the two rules. It always comes back to the two basic rules. If you can integrate those two rules into your life, it frees you from Fear Prison.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Bro,
I decided to separate the reply into 2 posts and hope you dun mind.
I wished all guys are relentless and this GURU did make sense.
I agreed if the gal is not keen then get the hell loss.
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Very strong harsh words but I like. Be a man and PRIZE.
This is great forum and hope you can post more GURU
After more than 2 yrs, som eof your kakis falling into tough time. I wonder how they are flushed with cash all the time if they are not ah long or bookies.
Well this shows that to go long term because this thread still alive till 2018 meaning TS bro have the financial power to sustain long term.
Well done I must say.
Will read on more.
Cheers.
Agree, need to have financial power to sustain long term.
Hope to read more from bro WB and this fantastic thread.
Originally Posted by seabeng
Bros, sometimes I dont know why we are all so silly and go and hang flowers for one aim and that is to screw the singer. Surely we are not there for their singings. Sometimes we hang between 100 to 200 or maybe more for a non regular singer and yet this girl will still put up a show as though she has gold below. But today I found out and has proven that all that glitters are not gold.
On Monday a friend gave me a contact to say that this girl a singer and is going home next month (6 months due) and dont mind doing something extra so that she could bring home more money. She will only entertain close and regulars friends and strictly on a hush hush. I told my friend, if she is on a hush hush for regulars where I dont even know her will she entertain?
I told a chance anyway so I called this afternoon and she answered. As I was talking to her I find that her voice was somewhat familar anyway I take it as coincidence.
I arranged to fetch her at 4pm at her place of stay. All this while I find it somewhat funny because beside the voice is familar but the place is also familar. Nevertheless I made my way there since everything has been arranged and given her my car number.
I waited at the roadside near the landmark she gave and waited for about 15 mins maybe more. I was beginning to have second thoughts when suddenly someone open the door coming from the back and as she was about to step in, both of us were spell bound for a few seconds. She could only utter eh eh eh and finally she said.....shi ni ah!!! I told her to come in the car. I could not drive and have never felt to be in a situations like this before.
She was from a joint that I went a couple of times and cant say I like that place. She had sat with me before though not the usual singer that used to sit with me and each and every time I was there her token flowers from me were usually $100 for her ppc. I remember once another friend of mine tried dating her for supper and she flately refused with some kind of excuses that make herself upper class not going supper with first timer. By the way, I dont drink when I am out for a drink and had never sent her back.
Here, for less than 150 I got to screw her. Since she knew why we are meeting up and she's aware that I know about her extra, we went on to have our fun. I also wonder how long has she been into this?
In order not to make things looks so emmm how shall I put it......I went down to the joint tonight and hang her another 100. The beautiful thing is that she has quite a good number of regulars and supporters and my friend who gave me her contact did not know that I had been to that joint before. And if I remember right for her show, she gross about 17k in July. Not that bad for a mid size joint.
The story behind is still........not all that glitters are gold so I now wonder why spent so much where at the end of the day is still that lump of hairy meat below. Anyway she was really hairy below but was very tight.
Bro WB,
I love this post that you quote made in another thread.
What this bro highlighted was the harsh reality of life. Behind the glitters of lights there were plenty of hidden truths.
This story also made me realized the following. Many gals have 2 sides of the face. One was the glamorous side and the other dark side. Unless one who knew her past may never really know the truth. A gal may have to do part-time FL just to get over her college tuition fees. After her graduation she wil be in the corporate world and this gal may climb very high but will meet some of her ex-clients.
To a cheongster sometimes best don't bother to know. Just be cool and enjoy the company.
In August of 2008, before I ever set foot in a KTV or HFJ, I got ctc of a PRC FL from a bro. The whore LX was a 20 yo SYT, tall (169), fair n quite chio, A very good fxxk for a princely sum of only $120, hahaha. The damage was later reduced to $80. I upped her quite a few times. Friction cost for me: Zero.
A couple of wks later, she confided that she was a real singer at a HFJ n that she was going to hv a show in 2 days. She wanted me come to show support. A SBF bro knew the joint n told me abt a taller(173) n prettier singer there n hinted that I could fxxk her, so I called a few experienced frens to go along.
LX was very pleased to see me n my frens. The taller n supposedly prettier gal wasn't that pretty n was definitely older. In fact, among the 14-15 or so singers whom I saw taht nite, LX was the only one I wanted to fxxk in that joint. I hung $100 for LX n $100 for the taller gal bcos she came to sit w/ me ( I was a hapless "nice guy" then; nowadays I'll give zero unless I like to fxxk the gal). My frens also hung $100 for both gals n for a few others. They wanted to give me "face."
BTW, clients who met LX at her HFJ would end up paying 5 to 10X for ST.
A few days later, the same grp of frens brought me to a KTV, my virgin visit to one, where I met my 1st BAO-ee n my current favourite lao po XW. That is another story.
LX completed her 6-month contract n returned to PRC. In May of 2009, LX called me one day n said that she had returned on a TAM singer permit n wanted to meet up. She wanted $500 for ST!! I told her $200, take it or leave it. She said no n hung up the phone. Two wks later she called n said OK, hehehe. The next month, June 2009, in my 1st ever visit to TAM, I saw her there n she was one of my 3 butterflies...
The other day a tall singer called n asked me to go to her joint. She was intro by my GF YB (who returned to Fujian last wk). This gal is supposed to be 172 but is at least 174. She looks fine n has long slender arms, nice legs n butt, but her breasts look like A/B only. Nowadays I want gals w/ at least a full B Boobs which must be beautifully shaped. Why would I ever go to her joint? Next!
Cheers!
Bro WB
And here this was yoru reply then to to post above.
From what I read bro WB dislike HFJ and prefer ktv to pickup.
From what I was reading so far, your first Bao-ee XW matches one gal that I know in the past. Of course using acronyms will be harder to determine who?
Anyway long time ago and brought back plenty of pleasant memories.
I love this post that you quote made in another thread.
What this bro highlighted was the harsh reality of life. Behind the glitters of lights there were plenty of hidden truths.
This story also made me realized the following. Many gals have 2 sides of the face. One was the glamorous side and the other dark side. Unless one who knew her past may never really know the truth. A gal may have to do part-time FL just to get over her college tuition fees. After her graduation she wil be in the corporate world and this gal may climb very high but will meet some of her ex-clients.
To a cheongster sometimes best don't bother to know. Just be cool and enjoy the company.
Agreed with David X's be relentless. We have to be in control most of the time. Best to be in all hell breaks lose and still in control.
I love the part where mommy never teach you to be rascal and dun need to be polite. Just be badass.
Surprising the nastier men behaved and the more gals love you.
How difference set sof life began.
Have a nice weekend.
ENJOY !!!
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Originally Posted by warbird
I hv finished reading David X's Be Relentless.
Here is more of his wisdom:
“BUT SHE’S SO…”
You can’t treat a hot one like she’s a hot one, and you can’t treat her like you’re not trying to treat her like she’s a hot one and maybe she knows that you know. Read that again, just to make sure it sinks in. Because if you do that you’re ignoring her because she’s hot. Treat them all the same, no matter what they look like. And remember that while you think she’s hot, I may think she’s ugly.
What’s the difference in how you treat a ten versus a one? Depends on how horny you are. Next question. How do you treat an 8 versus a five? Depends. Am I horny? What about young versus old? Treat them all the same. Young to me is probably old to you. I’m 53 years old.
You have to stop thinking about them and instead think of you. After all, you are the most important person in the relationship. “But she is just so…” Forget it. The whole orientation of seduction psychology is wrong, by the way. It just trains you to be over-analytical and causes you to forget the most important person in the relationship, you. You can’t be thinking for her. Let her do that. Think for you. Instead of thinking, ”What does she want?” think about what you want and only you. Do it honestly and completely. What will happen is it will teach you something more valuable than money and more valuable than technique. It will teach you honesty.
CONTROL
Women are constantly testing us. I really believe that. Children test you to see how far they can go, and women are the same. Being with children can teach you a lot about how you should be with a woman. As soon as you give in, you lose. You’ve failed the test. Any psychiatrist will tell you that. Because if you’re willing to give in now, then you’ve just demonstrated that you’ll also give in later. Once you’ve set an example of something, it’s too late. If you give in now you’re making your life more difficult later on. I'm tough with kids, but they love me. My sons friends love me, I’m like the Pied Piper.
Why? Because the rules aren’t hard to follow when I live by them also.
You need to be in control but not controlling.
When I was still dating, sometimes women would start to have a hissy fit, saying things like, “It’s always your way!” and I would say, “I’m glad you remember the rules.” It’s my direction in life and I don’t care what they say. I know what I want in my life, and I know myself better than they do. My life is not a democracy.
YOU’VE BEEN CONDITIONED TO BE A PUSSY
My mother told me that I have to ask for everything politely. “Can I please fuck you tonight?” Your mommy meant well, but try to forget her advice, because she left out the important stuff. Your mommy didn’t tell you, “Treat a lady like a whore and treat a whore like a lady.”
Your mommy forgot to mention, “Who cares what they think.” She never told you that the most important person in the relationship is you. And that’s because it’s your life. Women don’t know what’s good for you, your mom doesn’t know what’s good for you, and I don’t know what’s good for you.
I’m not saying that your mother did anything wrong. You’re probably a very nice person. But you’re not nice to yourself, you’re nice to other people. You’ve been conditioned to be a pussy. “Say please.” “Be nice.” “Share your toys.” “Say thank you for that cookie.”
But in this world today, we’re finding out that being nice to certain people is dangerous. When you go out to meet women, you’re on dangerous grounds. Who knows what these women are like. Some of them have AIDS, some of them are prostitutes, coke whores, manipulative cunts, thieves, murderers, liars, the list of fucked up women goes on and on. I’ve had women rip me off while I was taking a piss. They went into my wallet and took my money. And they’ll cheat on you given half the chance.
Do you honestly believe that your girlfriend wouldn’t fuck George Clooney behind your back? What if Brad Pitt showed up in her life? Would she stick around for you? You’ve got to be nice to you first."
10 years ago , fewer girls have done plastic surgery and social media is not so popular . Nowadays girls to come to work in ktv in singapore mostly done plastic surgery and the pretty syt and pretty one will stay in china and do video streaming to earn money
Okay so I'm a completely new noob to this and will appreciate hearing from those who are experienced in this and have gone down this road before...
What are your views and advice on the best way of broaching the issue or opening negotiations with the girl?
There is this Shenyang girl in TAM that I sat in one of the recent outings, she is MCOT and speaks good english and is a good conversationalist, beyond the mindless bimbo talk that many meimeis seem only capable of. Of course she claims she only "sits" and does not go for ST, has never gone out/slept with customers before and has even rejected previous offers of exclusivity ie. baoing by other men. And of course I am taking this with many many pinches of salt. I have gone out with her once after that, just for drinks and nothing else. Thing is, I have dropped many hints and she has flat out not picked up on them. I am planning to raise it directly with her the next time; in fact I intend to bluntly ask her to just spend the nite with me, dinner, drinks and sleepover in my hotel room. If she says okay, I can assess her performance and decide whether to take it further. But if she says no, then I am just going to forget it, albeit with a tinge of regret.
What do you seniors think of this approach?
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Dear Jackal Junior, please see my 2cts worth of perspective from the view point of a newbie noob
This kind a WL only got 2 possibilities that i can think of.
1) She already got a fulltime BF or lao gong liao, so she dun have to do these kinda stuff for she is already sufficient wif the current arrangement.
2) There are some who will not do ST but will only allow someone to shack her if he/she is so called BF/GF
To me, she meets how many men a day, to act blurr on your hints means to me that she has picked up ur hints but flat out ignored them.
She could be playing a diff game all together.
The type that wants a man to invest & chase her wif monetary & gifts before she even submits.
Remember, there is no bitch unbedable but then again, one must always remember, is she worth it?
This, u gotta decide on your own.
May i suggest you ask her out for dinner, then go to her joint and after that for supper.
Plain platonic but do that.
Observe phone patterns and little actions.
Mostly, it will happen during supper & you'll know her true availability.
Drag till near sunrise or close to sunrise cos most WLs wif fulltime BFs would be bombarded wif sms n phonecalls to track her whereabouts!
Also see if she keeps hinting to go back blah blah then come back here n update the think tanks avail here for me scrutiny.
Good Luck!
Mr Chairman is really experience and all his answers were golden rules.
Let me share a bit back many years ago think before Bro WB started this thread. If I remember clearly was 2005/6.
There was this gal who arrived from PRC coaxed by a friend to come to our tiny red dot to find money. She was getting tired of doing nothing and just broke off with bf in BJ. She was standing at GL to look for client.
So my friend called her for ST and her rate was 60 bucks. I took her number and told her will meet her soon.
After 2 weeks msg her and fixed a time. Meet at one of the hotels in GL. I was surprised she was skillful and her skin was silky white. She was actually stunning gal.
So I offered to help her to get client. Started sharing on SBF and soon she became ang pai. She flew home after two months and we kept in touch.
After a year she came in again. She was reluctant to get back to work like before and during lunch I told her she can work in ktv and later bao by rich man.
After two years she was back again but working in ktv and her rates become $150 ST and later she was bao. She stay in an apartment and was given 10k allowance. Still allowed to work.
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