Shenzhen Info Needed

[surachai]

Originally Posted by GTOKING

I been there last week

Thanks to you i had the most enjoyable experience in SZ on my last night there. Especially the dinner...will definitely go there again next mth, not for the food but the singing MMs. Love their singing esp 'San Ge Lau Po', had the diners surounding us in stitches as well..

Next time you bring bicycle i tong pang u loh...

[topfuel]

Short FR for yesterday.
supposed to meet tirak bro to go richys but was called off later on. Contacted fellow flipper bro and followed Sino's guide on how to get to Jiabin road. Wow upon reaching there the whole street is clustered with lots of girls sitting around the iron railings outside the guard's office. initially damn embarrass, kept walking around the area opposite and roamed the streets until queen spa, noted alot of sweet ladies walking around. Some even looked like models but i assumed they were going into the nearby nightclubs.
Infact i think the girls here are prettier than xia sha and sha zui though no service(after trying 2 girls in the end).

* Prices are ranging from 250-350 per 1 or 2 shots inclusive of the room. (Varying on the girls, if u get chioer ones, they ask for 350 to packet) Girls can choose to reject customers on their own will unlike sha zui and xia sha. Saw a few girls rejecting to get into some cars or walked away after being introduced to the customer by the OKT.

* If u ask for takeaway, its about the same price 300-400 depending on your location. If u stay nearby its about 300-350 for 1 night. Again the girl's asking price vary according to her looks it seems.

* Most girls there are part timers and older than sha zui and xia sha, more attractive in my opinion. Therefore not service orientated and most have daytime jobs. You can get milfs/young mothers there even. If you are into the 15 to 19yrs old fetish then here's not the place, sha zui is.

* Girls here are not like sha zui where you get surrounded and hugged tugged and pressured by. They come to u after their OKT brings them to u, take a quick glance at u and walks off if they "reject" or refuse to do your business. It appears that way.

First Shot

Spotted a real sweet girl at the bank just behind the spot. Was wearing track pants and white tank top! Tits were so perky they were pointing so front that it created a gap between the tank top and her chest if you know wat i mean. She walked off really quick after withdrawing $. I was thinking is she one of them? Immediately asked the OKT and pointed to her walking away and she said YES, my face started to smile. Damn couldnt believe they have such normal girls, unlike girls at sha zui, one look at them and you know they are whoring. Much negotiation she asked for 350, my heart sank and gave in because the OKT and girl knew how much i wanted her. Bro flipper chosed one which looked like any plain girl next door, without makeup and looking great. Both of us headed to the nearby 兵官 which is 50RMB for 3 hrs.

Noted her body and she was in much better shape than sha zui girls. Her language and behavior was just like any normal girl, slightly abit of GF feeling. Couldnt tahan anymore, i stood up on the bed looking down at the cleavage, wanted to see the GAP clearly, she then came and pulled off my jeans while sitting upward on the bed, i then removed her tank top while i was standing. Shit it was a lovely sight and she began to stroke me, argh fuck. Loved the petting part. She took out a condom and capped me used her hands to guide my junior into her mouth, proceeded to blow me still having her bra on.

With me standing on the bed while she was blowing, i felt awesome. Tried to unbuckle her bra by bending but couldnt reach, knowing that i wanted her bra to be removed, she removed it herself while still giving me the BJ, ahh it was a NO HANDS BJ! Felt like a porn master for that moment. It was over in about 15mins, i released in her mouth, of cos with the condom lah. I guess it was because i was so attracted to her in the first place. Feeling unsatisfied, i went back to the street hoping to look for my second shot. Bro flipper was still in his room not knowing i went back.

Second Shot

While walking down, was suprised to see the OKT, OKT was there to escort me and bring me back to the street. Wat a service i thought. This time the streets were bustling with more people and many hong kong men and some indian men, OKT told me to quickly take a pick as it was nearing 1+am.
Bro flipper then called me and told me he had just finish his shot and the girl did not want a second shot. Told him im back at the streets hunting and he should come again. He came back at the streets after 10mins with the girl, girl looked like she just had a ride of her life, commented that flipper was too 厉害 for her haha.

I then saw my gem in the middle of the crowd, tits were popping out of their leapard skin spag strap. She came over with the OKT and started yatting non stop, i decided shes the one because of her friendliness. Fellow bro had a hard time sourcing for his target, i told him to settle for a 少妇 after the OKT told me that they had young mummys! Dang i almost wanted to switch girls but i felt bad so i didnt. What a fantasy, flipper got a really attractive young mother for his 2nd shot. She seemed really unwilling to do the job as she was sitting alone initially and lookin at the ground like really depressed.

Fast track back to the room, girls followed us back to rooms, counter girl seemed laughing at us because we brought another 2 girls back with us. While flipper was getting his drink at the counter, the young mother thought that his room was beside me, i was almost tempted to push her into my room.

Inside, i learnt that my girl was from sichuan, broke the ice herself cos she was so talkative. She took off her leapard spag and revealed some 36Ds man! spotted a mole between the bottom cleavage and wtf, this theory comes back again, those with mole on tits are mostly big? Commented that she had really large blossom and she laughed it off saying she had to always buy the largest and thinnest material bra for some reason that i couldnt understand. Her nips were long after i flicked them a little. To cut things short as there wasn't much action, i had a hard time coming the 2nd time so it ended up with a HJ on her.

When i came out flipper was saying that the young mother did not give much service, its noted that some girls there DO NOT give service, especially the pretty ones unlike sha zui. So do not expect service orientated girls there as they are not full time pros like sha zui according to the OKT.

My girl was nice enough to even negotiate a flat fee rate with the cab drive to take us back instead of running the meter, i normally run with meter thinking its safer and cheaper. Tried to give tip her at the cab but she refused and waved goodbye, what a girl!

That ends my first FR to Jia Bin. Hope it helps those wandering newbies like myself. However if you are the seriously shy type then this place may not be suitable as easily get spotted unlike sha zui, everything happens between the dark small streets. Enjoy. flipper will try to post pics of the bustling street as he managed to get some shots.

[KLKOOL]

Originally Posted by tuscani82

bobian liao...since my idol prof .KOOL so supportive of me...i shall now cross boundaries and share my experiences at SZ/HK/DG....though it may fewer cos i only go these places about once a month....cheers

So now I know, you also go there a lot horr

[KLKOOL]

Originally Posted by topfuel

Short FR for yesterday.
supposed to meet tirak bro to go richys but was called off later on.

I heard you GF with you. Our plans are always flexible one. I was with T99. We makan and see where the mood bring us...

[Sperminator]

Originally Posted by topfuel

Short FR for yesterday.

* Prices are ranging from 250-350 per 1 or 2 shots inclusive of the room. (Varying on the girls, if u get chioer ones, they ask for 350 to packet) Girls can choose to reject customers on their own will unlike sha zui and xia sha. Saw a few girls rejecting to get into some cars or walked away after being introduced to the customer by the OKT.

* If u ask for takeaway, its about the same price 300-400 depending on your location. If u stay nearby its about 300-350 for 1 night. Again the girl's asking price vary according to her looks it seems.

Dear TOPFUEL,

Thanks for the FANTASTIC FR, it's definitely grade A material!

It have pricing analysis, environment analysis, situation analysis, and room action details, man, this is like a guide! haha...

It appears to me that the pricing seems to be rather high though... RMB 250 to 350 can live for 1 week at least, if you do not spend like a KING, in Shenzhen.

Well, as the saying goes, to each his own... Generally speaking, if someone is really on a tight budget, but do have their own hotel room, I think those BBS may be a good deal, as it's normally priced RMB 150 to makan on the location, and RMB 200 for DA BAO (if you stay really near by, and must be a regular, as the mamasan also didn't want their assets to be "stolen" or harmed)

At the junction of Jia Bin Road together with Xiang Xi Chun Road, that's where BetterOle is.

Note; You'll have to cross the Junction (where SunShine Hotel & Hilton Hotel) all the way into Xiang Xi Chun first.

And along the stretch of Jia Bin Road (Xiang Xi Chun), you'll see HAWAII Sauna.

With Reference to HAWAII Sauna, if you face the MAIN ENTRANCE, walk a little more to your right, and you'll find a alley (on your left) leading down to multiple smaller alleys, and from there, you'll find many BBS, it's like a maze, but you'll find that after a while, if you are not topo king, it's easy to move around, and you'll not be lost, as it's very small...

But remember the rule of getting cheo gals, don't hunt on FRIDAY, SAT, SUN, or even THURS... the best days to hunt are MON, TUE, WED... that's when all the supply exceeds demand, and you'll can take your time to take your pick.

Usually, FRI, SAT, SUN, the best looking girls will go DONG GUAN to double their rates... originally charging promotional rates of EXW RMB 150 (COD terms) for MON, TUE, WED, THUR, on FRI, SAT, SUN, when they are in DONG GUAN, they charge EXW RMB 300 (COD terms).

Haha, also avoid the PAY DAY Week, that's where alot of HONGKIES come to spend their money, although now HKD is valued 5% lower than RMB, the HONGKIES have still a larger pay packet to spend like princes / kings

I really hate to go Queen Spa & Dining during FRI/SAT/SUN, as it's always packed, the Massage Palours are packed, and Barber Shops, etc...

If you go on packed days, you'll not get the first class service... I think those who go during those days before would agree with me.

Have fun !!!

It's definitely possible you can stretch your RMB value to the maximum when you have all these information from all the bros who share selflessly like TOPFUEL, and indeed, you guys can enjoy confidently, with the pros and cons in mind.

GOOD LUCK!

[lemonteao]

TOPFUEL:
These FL that u refer to are not the same as those that are from Sha Zui right i assume? which they are practically on their own and could be with gangsters. Since sha zui ones are kampung girls under OKT which is 150 a shot, 300 for ta bao.
1. These are street FL near yang kwang jiu dian. Will travel to ShaZui when there is business needs... :-)

If after seeing plenty of the girls from 1 OKT and still cmi, u change reject further viewing and move on, will there be any danger? Im abit precautious as im always pressured after viewing a handful of girls at Sha Zui.
1. Ask him to bring them in batches, usually walking distance so no taxi fare involved.
2. Tell him if next batch/gal cmi, you will just leave. Normally they will request those common face ones to show up because this will mean higher commission for them.
a. The common gal takes 50-150 outta 300.
b. The prettier gal takes 200-250 outta 300.
3. It is ok to walk away, don't feel bad about it. They will greet you with smile again when they see you next night. They want money and not enemy.
4. If you are worried about safety, view them near your hotel instead of walking into their apartment. But apartment you can see all in one shot and make your choices, then tabao to your hotel in cab.
5. HOWEVER, to be very honest... reputation of Singaporean guy is not very good in ShenZhen.
Why? => They contact the girl direct instead of going through the OKT for subsequent shots with the same girl.
I will contact via OKT to get newer girls, believe me... the girls just got better... u will have all girls offering their contact to you hoping you will call them direct.
6. If you don't like the OKT to pester you, tell him straight on the face so new OKT can approach you with supplies from other provinces.
They have RULE OF ENGAGEMENT.... when on OKT is negotiating other OKT will not interrupt.


This is interesting! Does it mean i see any girl on the street but they happen to be of my type, i can ask the OKT to try and work something out for me?
1. If you see them not carry "Plastic bag"
2. AND they are carry small leather or lady handbag
3. They look back at you and they smile(not with disgust)
OR stop walking if you block infront of them (waiting for you to open your mouth)
OR answer you when you ask "qu bu qu (wan)" (if they just walk away means they are not or don't like you) .
4. Normally I can tell by their dressing and expression. If you wanna prevent creating a scene, let OKT do the job for you, always quote your $ range first because some of them is outta range... but sometimes they will accept it when business is poor.
5. You can view girls by contacting this lady OKT, Ah Ping. Tell her that "Ah Sheng" from Singapore recommend you. If none of the girls are suitable, just move on, there are a lot of OKT with other gals contact from their hometown.
Note: OKT and girls may not use real name. Phone contact may change as well.


SPERMINATOR:
I travel to other parts like fujian, dongguan, beijing, shanghai, guangzhou... only been to SZ for 5 times but usually spend everynight chatting with OKT and the local ppl for information.
Buy them drinks and dinner, how things work in china is via relationship and recommendation.

Hope I will be there in Dec again... enjoy your SZ trip.

[Sperminator]

Originally Posted by lemonteao

SPERMINATOR:
I travel to other parts like fujian, dongguan, beijing, shanghai, guangzhou... only been to SZ for 5 times but usually spend everynight chatting with OKT and the local ppl for information.
Buy them drinks and dinner, how things work in china is via relationship and recommendation.

Hope I will be there in Dec again... enjoy your SZ trip.

Great!!! I do enjoy your FRs, very executable, and very authentic.

Your instructions for negotiations really proved that you have mastered the art of negotiation with the local Chinese in China...

And certainly it'll be my pleasure to meet you on DECEMBER 2007, I'll be back home to Shenzhen by then... perhaps we could meet up for a DRINK or Two at some of my favourite PUBS, which is a stone throw away from my home.

//FOR GENERAL INFORMATION about CULTURAL DIFFERENCES.//

Talking about reputation of SINGAPOREANS, here is the famous verse quoted many times in CHINA, by my CHINESE colleagues as well...

香港人无情， 台湾人无耻， 新加坡人无知

// HONG KONG PEOPLE are heartless //

In a way, yes, because I've dealt with some HONG KONG people before, and when they do business, they are totally emotionless, in a way heartless... that's why heartless [But this is just an over generalization, it doesn't apply all]

// TAIWANESE PEOPLE are dispicable //

In a way yes, because I've also dealt with many TAIWANESE before, these people are really motherfuckers... becareful when dealing with them, they have bad reputation in Shenzhen / China as a whole, as they are known to mistreat the local employees of CHINA, sometimes I do hear of stories of the TAIWANESE factory managers get involved with their local production workers, and make them pregnant, and alot of bad news... I suggest you talk to local people to find out.

ALERT: If anyone works with TAIWANESE people, I suggest you do not treat them as friends, just working partners, and have a distance against these motherfuckers, as they are highly political people, if they sense that you are a threat to their existence, they will GANG UP AND KICK YOUR ASS...

& Finally,

// SINGAPOREAN are IGNORANT //

How true can that be... I guess this is due to our overly protected nation... We were all brought up in 'mini PARADISE'

After staying overseas for many years, I realized that we SINGAPOREANS are really living in our own dreamland, SLAND.

Because in SINGAPORE, everything is so clockwork, systematic, almost perfect in a sense, we are not subjected to huge competition... Our life is almost destined if we do not think for ourselves...

I am not saying that this is bad being IGNORANT, but being IGNORANT could be really bliss...

But the problem is, when we are IGNORANT, we are subjected to many unfair treatments... and could be bullied easily...

After these years outside, I've learnt to be a motherfucker, you'll be surprised... when you are fierce, you'll gain respect... but if you are soft, kenna bullied all the time...

So, just some thoughts sharing, by the way, this is just my personal opinion, hope that this doesn't offend anyone out there. [But intention to offend Taiwanese motherfuckers!]

[flipper01]

Originally Posted by aman

Bro, almost all the gal in china doing FL can do RAW!!!
But better dun, cos she doing with other also.

your cost 150 is S$ or RMB?

Thanks for the concern bro. Oh yeh i paid 150 rmb

[flipper01]

Originally Posted by v.killers

RAW is alway WAR !!!!

If happened that the gal got AIDS, do raw with U is want to "poh seow" how do you feel?

Song Si Bo?? (",)

Bro here who want to do RAW, please think carefully for your family member too... just my 2cents..

I know bro. tenx for the concern. But I felt her pussy was very very tight and her sexperience is very small. And my didi did the thinking for me. So you know how that goes.

[flipper01]

If u can bonk her without cd. Just use your intelligent big head oops obviously yr small head is more intelligent to think how many man can also have bed her without condom too? Or perhaps she think ur handsome like Andy Lau only u got to do RAW with her

I'm not handsome at all or so I think. As I said before i felt her pussy was tight and her sexperience very small. I know it was stupid!

[flipper01]

Of course it feel good doing RAW. Think if u get caught any STD or HIV it also feel good tio bo? [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the concern bro.

[Monty Python]

Originally Posted by flipper01

I know bro. tenx for the concern. But I felt her pussy was very very tight and her sexperience is very small. And my didi did the thinking for me. So you know how that goes.

Bro. You are so silly to place your heath in danger based on simple minded thinking.

Just because she is tight does not mean she never have sex often. Could be her small build.

Even she never have sex much, one customer a day still means can have 365 sex partners. And you only need one to get an infection.

[flipper01]

Originally Posted by Monty Python

Bro. You are so silly to place your heath in danger based on simple minded thinking.

Just because she is tight does not mean she never have sex often. Could be her small build.

Even she never have sex much, one customer a day still means can have 365 sex partners. And you only need one to get an infection.

tenx bro.. you are all right.

[flipper01]

I tried to post pics on jiabin road but it did not show only the link. ANyone can help me. Preferrably now can im pretty busy.

[Monty Python]

Originally Posted by flipper01

I tried to post pics on jiabin road but it did not show only the link. ANyone can help me. Preferrably now can im pretty busy.

You need to use a picture hosting site. Check out the picture exchange link. Lots of advice there.