The Asian Commercial Sex Scene  

Go Back   The Asian Commercial Sex Scene > For stuff you can't discuss with your Facebook Account > The Legal Geylang (prostitute) Scene

Notices

The Legal Geylang (prostitute) Scene Had a great time with a government approved broad in Geylang? Tell us all about it! No FREELANCE crap here please. Legal commercial sex only. Threads about illegal Geylang whores carry a reputation point penalty.

SG Relax! Image
We Never urge the Guest and we Never use Fake Photos

User Tag List
rawmaster101, zip4671

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #80641  
Old 24-10-2016, 02:38 PM
smoky7's Avatar
smoky7 smoky7 is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,864
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 12282 / Power: 20
smoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond reputesmoky7 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

9 points for exchange, all are welcome
__________________


2nd round KIV return list: hungten, hayday, bonker guy, len75, lookingaround, ah rat, GladBoy, Sanuuk, MatthewC, 69sex, slicker69, Jay Chou, w00f, Apollo, swagelock, ejectjoy, essinine, zl1983, wohaha96, hccheonger, biostar, bigbirdbird

  #80642  
Old 24-10-2016, 02:40 PM
SureScore's Avatar
SureScore SureScore is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,091
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 56 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 30491 / Power: 29
SureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond reputeSureScore has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Can exchange points.

Min 5 points to trade. Uplist - 0
__________________
Minimum 8 points to exchange. Sure return favour.

If any person upped me and I have yet to return please pm me with your lastest URL.


n-rd - TheDriverGuy
  #80643  
Old 24-10-2016, 03:14 PM
vaxvms's Avatar
vaxvms vaxvms is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 3,887
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 169 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 4966 / Power: 24
vaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond reputevaxvms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Islands View Post
Points returned with thanks
Points returned with thanks
__________________
Please leave your nick when u upped my points and I will return favour asap. Thanks.
Exchange of points are welcome too but with minimum of 12 pointers please.
  #80644  
Old 24-10-2016, 03:15 PM
Lawrence1713's Avatar
Lawrence1713 Lawrence1713 is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Tower of the East
Posts: 7,384
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 8516 / Power: 25
Lawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond reputeLawrence1713 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

16 green apples available for exchange today.

Green apples will be return daily.

Queue is currently empty so do join in the queue if you are interested.

Thank you

Note: Priority will be given to bros with the HIGHEST POWER.

Next To Up List: -

New Post Required KIV List: edvil (+13), goo_ey (+12), kick_ass (+9), pixated (+7), SuperbLoverBoy (+5), plantronic (+4), Villian (+4)

Already Up List:
( Click to show/hide )
Lamborghini, Hurricane88, SureScore, Redapple26, simple2kee, sgiceboy, Naka_Timo, Cumexplorer, justl00king, Kalv, Nato17, xxxdreamer, waikeekee, submarinez, sex crusader, xlao, loneyheart, kyc2110, Apollo, mobliepod, Goalie, PPGirl, Rickey, sam30sg, nitecrawllerr, marlboroken, justfuckit, qizai, songest, lookingaround, NorthEast, compgen, ah rat, smartke, formula1, ShaolinHamster, clinton, wittyman, venussg, DrPussy, HonestCrook, lglg666, President, MMKing, fdomme, siam66, SEAJ, hardone, 胡's your daddy!, nocturnal1984, GeGe, sponge05, basfreak, i^Xi0n, Cash8877, aalibaba, joHnnyBoy90, laoba, SimplyUnperfect, cupid, MimeBoxer, Cafu, hayhay, beautyhunter, BMW69, bestlicker, saas, Josh_Ray, starbuck, acemanfred55, cumminology, Swagelock, watssupp, SMGG, Tnuc111, Joe Fox, Pervy Sage, JustANewbie, hornyhubby, Ramirez, macktamer, Koiz, andrew101, Hilary, ClownTeaser, Nitro Trans, justdoit, Devil-Man, PeaceKris, ProjectAlice, 002nabe, lovecim, conly, reading, oxeso, Acegik, sexy_lion, FeiGohGoh, jc_wtc, Yakuza, mazda1947, jimfairy, Javabeans, mePoke, memorablez, TingTongLove, jorje, 222nge, devilchan78, S.B.Y.1, hamsapkwai, esssinine, Woei, bunty, ken6890, Mito, guess67, shctaw, GoldRabbit, bbbjkim, Hanster, surbana, wpns, best123, snowcap, FishingPartner, Babarella, Spector69, HunnyCame888, BlueFinTuna, bk81665, masters, chaku, PeroPero, 99099, Supervert, iSaigon, Doubledare, Rasta Marley, Baigonggong, SirRumble, slyer, iphone1s, bizbiz, le113ru, Gem08, ComplainKing, BrillantKnight, masterwanker, Kuan Aik Hong, buzett, koebshaq0_0, ShiningGlory, More, AceAmando, Devil Reds, BlickBassy, Fishypartner, Abastor, takashi31400, KohOnly21, Evetan86, sleeping, Big Sister80, XiaoLaoPO, norigo77, 1deg, kthan10, sc slayer, urgg, JollyOne, GoldPool, CherryQQ, Jubilation, FookKew, b00bs, hairy_abalone, Ho-Lee, JokerDeBest, charcoalfilter, RedFrog, Lemon2, Treemon99, NRider, PowerSeh, raw1, bigbirdbird, Zacelfron, igor123, SingaHarimau, LeeHsienLoong, w00f, Greenfrog, Happyman007, VRossi1980, Raddy69, madpig88, curiousSG, Xxon, hakone, NastyThaiboy, Skypiea, BK4ever, MPLover, Truthful, JohnnyStorm, BBHumper, tarma69, mantaray73, MagicEight, Guardsmen, lion81, gilaxes, Coronet Peak, wester22, pompy, KnightScorpio, randily, crackpod, damong777, OserbergGold, manu_no7, tinalam, VoltaRedonda, fun12345, Sailsingapore, Shoot To Target, wally888, chatlovers, ctchua, Black Page, Abbie Mayo, ChinaAngel, CherryPickle, wohaha96, retepoet, zl1983, simifly, bababoo, gasscut, smoky7, anotherlife, Harvest, Arse-nal, Tho66, Young Hero, ReelSchnick, lobowolf, meatvegelove, SunRayys, skyscrape, sbftiankon, The Old Nite, clapton, ReddySpeed, ExBro, divedeeper, Ladypink, Nzkiwi, skyleon, Ashbirdy, Milobing, Spicy98, tittytitty, MattJB, ExBros, sg50, owl888, deathryuk, SkyBandit, plsfloodme, kopigaogao, VIETLONER, ml1138, Don28, ivan_tan00, aloius, pocketrocket, sinjktcnx, Love 6969, fullofrubbish, Froster, Regaine, Islands, JulianLuther, dyelook, howgoodisthat, Analingusman, BroRelax, Madpig, SnowLeopards, i44444, DarthRevan, lawbah, chochochang2, BlueCondor, SeanSky, oldslywolf, FireShark, DJMixologist, max_priest, BikinisLover, James Teo, sggirls, InnocentStar, 0808, mevius, lalala89, Brunt, RapidoBoy, Eternal Luck, kristoa7, SilentMan, RisingShadow, SkyCarpenter, Joyluck, QT169, Born1988, HornyKingKong, ArowanaBullet, dysfunk, bigtube99, BenjiGlory, marc5, BulleYe, bluezben, Blackcloud, sanuuk, Wu Song Jr, lonebonker, 126gal, oFudge, conquer, cyberkoh88, CoCK ShoCk, Steventan, LuckyKnight, Evileyes, xxFTOxx, szczesny, evo5555, Belwins555, Taramis, Eumiru, lost99, El Bistro, Tundrawolf, Prince7, Nickochee, grey82, Tinybee, ZacMissile, logmeinla, BowieKnife, sadlonelyguyer, SEX-NEWBIE, ilovesmurfs, Kingsle, Hazelnutty93, RisingDick, naturegreen, silverstrike, Bionic73, RenaCross, lone_dog69, kirk, orangeproud, wangboy, 1gsb9, 8115818990, KimEmma, sgGem, 972200, ktmakmak, bb88asdflkj, shitty_pants, SiaSuay, CHEEHONGKIA, WonderBee, Sasuke, hunter12, FavorOne, NewM00n, shawn teo, Mandin, blehz, FUNNYANDHORNY, cimhol, Botakhead2, lovestobonk, aries, Inceptor, slut, HayDay, hot1168, Spikerman, Me Siam Bu, Pink2577, badboys, Sen5eS, ejectjoy, Suwy, avboys, dcrusader, Oh yes, Saltyraw, HC NEWBIRD, ja02amz, tuyet, TurkeyBacon, jaydenboy, lazuka, Nanom, powerkid, Moderator88, tigo, Boss30, KTVbuddy, georgemagnum, stiffness, DoubleSSS, beefnoodle, silverug, unfit, paradise80, menshealth, atoz67, seekrelax, bitch, hitman1891, jackbl, lopakolkata, BonBonWin, impossible, blackberryboy, Bluerabbit, ZacCommand, hoian, Triple-X, wildnhard2005, joker88, redboi, Flyer1
__________________
Question: If you could live forever, would you and why? Answer: "I would not live forever, because we should not live forever, because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live forever, but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever,"
  #80645  
Old 24-10-2016, 03:48 PM
rogersing's Avatar
rogersing rogersing is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Singapore
Posts: 304
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 1603 / Power: 14
rogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant futurerogersing has a brilliant future
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

6 to exchange
__________________
Roger
Mininum 3 points to exchange.
  #80646  
Old 24-10-2016, 04:52 PM
Speedtouch Speedtouch is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 123
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 2159 / Power: 20
Speedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond reputeSpeedtouch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

12 Pts to exchange. Tyvm
  #80647  
Old 24-10-2016, 06:42 PM
Goalie's Avatar
Goalie Goalie is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 6,583
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 48 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 27255 / Power: 25
Goalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond reputeGoalie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

ALL WELCOME to exchange and sure will return 9 points for LIMITED TIME ONLY.

Target - 9000 points.

Queue - 5
__________________
Beauty lies in the eyes of beholder.

Minimum power 7 and above to exchange.


n rd - ang09, 222nge
  #80648  
Old 24-10-2016, 07:23 PM
HayDay's Avatar
HayDay HayDay is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: HD's Farm
Posts: 1,181
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 6439 / Power: 14
HayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond reputeHayDay has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedtouch View Post
12 Pts to exchange. Tyvm
Humble 4 points up
__________________
Rd 2 - apollo, 222nge, hurricane88, kingkungfu, kumantong369, zl1983, Arse-nal, ejectjoy, Passerbyer, tai_zi21, kim-seng-heng, danny888, steventan, hungten, SG10, hanster, Linkus, kopigaogao, esssinine, randily, sgoh, Vampirdevil, havanna slicks, topcook1, Jackbl, owen10
  #80649  
Old 24-10-2016, 08:02 PM
meatvegelove meatvegelove is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,818
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 370 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 29263 / Power: 33
meatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond reputemeatvegelove has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedtouch View Post
12 Pts to exchange. Tyvm
Hi, up you 16 pts for exchange. tks.

(min 7 pts for exch)
  #80650  
Old 24-10-2016, 08:43 PM
Tho66's Avatar
Tho66 Tho66 is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Around d World
Posts: 6,900
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 128 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 30929 / Power: 25
Tho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond reputeTho66 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Hi Bros & Sis out there, I'm definitely welcome anyone with at least 4-Power Points who can help to up my points. My apology to those Bros & Sisters who have lesser than 4 power points & have upped my points as I won't in return up your points. Would like to seek your understanding on this requirement. Thanks.

For those Bros & Sisters who have at least 4-Power Points and have upped my points pls help to state your SBF nick in the "Comment" column so as I can in return up back your points. Pls also ensure that your latest posting is less than 48-hours old. Thanks.

Awaiting next in-line for me to up their points.
<<Empty>>



List of bros whom I need him to pm me his latest posting so as I can in return up his points. Thanks.
norice, bad^boi, virtualman, raiderxp, Rams75, wan25w, AVSPOP, Nemesis_v, shawnanderson, indignant, Driftmaster, gouflook, spatbrain, snowcap, happyguy801, howck001, elth, Sal1234, mariosuper, Honestkeith, Flinger(?), B-52, skyleon, iceboy29125, tanner132, sing-a-poo, Aceyfox, BC77, jsparrow, linoleum3, fei_fei45, Eises2, F-boy, pixated
  #80651  
Old 24-10-2016, 09:10 PM
johnn johnn is offline
Samster (B)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,680
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 2105 / Power: 0
johnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond reputejohnn has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Min flve point for xchange
All welcome
  #80652  
Old 24-10-2016, 10:17 PM
sunhuan-con sunhuan-con is offline
Samster (B)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: AMK
Posts: 791
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 4301 / Power: 0
sunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond reputesunhuan-con has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedtouch View Post
12 Pts to exchange. Tyvm
Up u 11 for exchange....
  #80653  
Old 24-10-2016, 10:26 PM
topcook1's Avatar
topcook1 topcook1 is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: North
Posts: 2,918
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 12704 / Power: 26
topcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond reputetopcook1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedtouch View Post
12 Pts to exchange. Tyvm
Up u 15 bro...
__________________
Please leave your Nick if you Up me so I can return your support!!Cheers mate!!!
Next to be up back in return :Nil
  #80654  
Old 24-10-2016, 11:02 PM
Spikerman Spikerman is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: 04 Feb
Posts: 649
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 3801 / Power: 14
Spikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond reputeSpikerman has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedtouch View Post
12 Pts to exchange. Tyvm
upped u to exchange ... TYVM too !
__________________
己所不欲,勿施于人

Minimum trade - 6pointers

I.O.U. :

Will try to return favor ASAP.
Returned : shataukokdog, libero, kyc2110, sladang, Qazxcvbnm, Paganwinter, Eumiru (Northern, Greenfrog, Swagelock, bigbirdbird - unable to return as Given b4)
  #80655  
Old 24-10-2016, 11:57 PM
owen10's Avatar
owen10 owen10 is offline
Samster
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Central
Posts: 8,404
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 347 Post(s)
My Reputation: Points: 20751 / Power: 29
owen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond reputeowen10 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Thread for Exchange Points / Flame trolling / Copy Frs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedtouch View Post
12 Pts to exchange. Tyvm
Juz credited yr account with my humble pts

Cheers
__________________


My 22nd year of romance with SBF. Semi-retired from chionging scene.

Rep pts:
Pls do not visit the point exchange groups giving the impression you are keen to exchange points but disappear after one post. Or promise to return points but did not do so after months.
Min 5 pts for exchange.
Advert Space Available
Bypass censorship with https://1.1.1.1

Cloudflare 1.1.1.1
Reply



Bookmarks

Tags
exchange, points, upz, wankjanice; upup1234

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 11:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copywrong © Samuel Leong 2006 ~ 2025 ph