Tieng Viet lovers club

[lovesprout]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Had some arguement with a vb and i recieved some sms... asked a northern teacher (carrot007) and a southern teacher (jackbl), both can't help as there are no vb to choose in jc and they shut down their TV server

what are the words in red?

doi xu = treat, ngo = believe, te = bad
nghe loi = listen to your words (聽話), chang = no/negative
ton lai = exist, duoi am phu = down there in the hell (下陰府)
nghia = meaning, don gian = easy, tat tho = last breath (斷氣)
bat cu = any, gia tri = explain
Hien = now, han = hate
to ra = show, co nao = which girl
trang diem = decoration

[Honey Boon]

that one besides my favorite breakfast store, Ham Ngi Road?

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

maybe he buying u 2 Bitexco Towers lei!!!

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

maybe he buying u 2 Bitexco Towers lei!!!

I wish so... I would if I could. And if I could I would have buy u all one truck of VBs each. Can bonk until sit wheel chair also can hehe... Bro deptrai pls help me talk to him... Anh oi lam on giup toi ma... One tower for u too?

[volcano]

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

maybe he buying u 2 Bitexco Towers lei!!!

Wow...then is there any helicopter service to send me up there....

[volcano]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

I wish so... I would if I could. And if I could I would have buy u all one truck of VBs each.

hey dude,tks for ur kind offer...but dun think we need it bcos we have enough in the country of manufacture.....

as for ur so called "dispute" with Hurricane88,i think its better if u send him a PM and sort things out.

dun worry lah....i used to have "dispute" with him which is 100 times more serious if compared to yours....

but now....we are kakis of the same interest liaoz....

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by volcano

hey dude,tks for ur kind offer...but dun think we need it bcos we have enough in the country of manufacture.....

anh nghia anh bay gio dang o wet nam? I'm planning to drop by some time soon impromptu when i settle my work stuff. need some relaxing and kc session with some VBs.

Originally Posted by volcano

as for ur so called "dispute" with Hurricane88,i think its better if u send him a PM and sort things out.

dun worry lah....i used to have "dispute" with him which is 100 times more serious if compared to yours....

but now....we are kakis of the same interest liaoz....

I sent alrdy but he bo hiew me... so sad ... i think i should keep bugging and dogging(not doggie with) him?

[volcano]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

anh nghia anh bay gio dang o wet nam?

u cant address both person as "anh" in the sentence..

if theres a age gap between the 2 then we use "anh"..."em"

if both are around the same age and r friends then we use "toi"...."ban"

if are very close friends,we can also just address them by the name.

never mix up or say wrongly when addressing the elderly Vietnamese people
(especially those in rural province)....they will feel that u r rude and not showing them respect.

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by volcano

u cant address both person as "anh" in the sentence..

if theres a age gap between the 2 then we use "anh"..."em"

if both are around the same age and r friends then we use "toi"...."ban"

if are very close friends,we can also just address them by the name.

never mix up or say wrongly when addressing the elderly Vietnamese people
(especially those in rural province)....they will feel that u r rude and not showing them respect.

thanks for enlightening me. my "anh nghia anh bay gio dang o wet nam" means "you(elder brother) mean you now at wet nam" is it right?

thanks.

[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

thanks for enlightening me. my "anh nghia anh bay gio dang o wet nam" means "you(elder brother) mean you now at wet nam" is it right?

thanks.

It's correct!

[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by volcano

if both are around the same age and r friends then we use "toi"...."ban"

I have never actually seen this used in a conversation unless it's an online conversation.

Even if 2 people are about the same age, the more polite way is to address him / her as anh / chi first.

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

e hoc them 1bai hoc la dung bao gio tin loi noi tu mieng cua bat cu 1ai. neu yeu ng ta se yeu bang hanh dong chu ko phai yeu bang loi noi. neu nhu a ko doi e di lam ve, a ko cho e di choi, di chup hinh thi co le loi noi cua a ko co gia tri dau

Originally Posted by lovesprout

gia tri = explain

IMO, gia tri = giá trị = Value worth

[jackbl]

Life of an expat
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Dear readers, last week, we mentioned that an expat should learn about the new place that he or she will settle in for a certain time in order to make their life there more comfortable.

Brett Davis, chief editor at Asia Life, English-language publication reflecting a contemporary Vietnam, wrote that:

“It takes time to unlearn old behaviors and learn new, more effective ones. Early in that arc of experience, those difficulties in adjusting can manifest themselves in feelings of frustration or anger at your surrounds. Most expatriates would be able to relate to this feeling at some stage in their time here. We have all had ‘bad Vietnam’ days.”

Frustrated because your colleagues do not understand you? Angry as it takes months to get your documents done? Irritated because you can’t find the foods you love back home? Tell you, it’s normal and most of people living overseas have experienced the same thing. It’s not only Vietnam but in any country, you will find something to compare and complain since “things here are not the same like they are back home”.

In 1955, Lysgaard developed a theory called the U-shaped cure of culture shock. A person who resides temporary in a place, known as a sojourner, often goes through three phrases: honeymoon phrase (remember how excited you were before coming to Vietnam?), crisis phrase (when things do not turn out as you had expected and you become homesick) and finally recovery phrase (when you regard ‘bad Vietnam days’ a part of your life here).

To overcome your crisis phrase, get out of your bubble and merge with locals, join their activities, learn their language. You’ll see more of the bright side of the country.

Liz Covington, one of many expats in Vietnam has shared her story of learning Vietnamese language, which makes it easier for her to mix up with locals:

“Nevertheless, if you want to practice Vietnamese with locals, they are happy to help you. I myself still find it amazing when I think about an intimate conversation I had with a bulb seller though 20 minutes earlier we had been strangers. On discovering that I could speak Vietnamese, she confessed many things to me as if we were old friends. Another time, when I was shopping for coats, I got a discount because I bargained in Vietnamese.”

This is a real example showing that when you show your will and open up your heart, people, despite different backgrounds and cultures, will do the same in return. Liz has chosen to volunteer in an English club and help young locals practice their second language as a way to contribute something to the country she loves.

Also a Vietnamese learner, Eric Burdette talked about the confusion of the ways of addressing people in Vietnam:

“Vietnamese grammar, at least in the simple form that I use, is pretty straightforward to a native English-speaker. And after a bit of struggling and concentration, I got the tones down pretty well. But xưng hô still manages to baffle me.”

He recalled calling a friend chu (uncle) instead of anh (elder brother) and get him angry. He was also confused about addressing his in-laws and even his wife. However, Eric has found a way to get by:

“If things start getting confusing and you don’t know how to address someone else or refer to yourself, just start using given names. It seems to work and be grammatically correct, and I’m sure there is a special term to address it by.”

As we have said, it’s hard to be an expat, especially in Vietnam. Sharing your stories, either funny moments or sad times with others will help you move on quicker. And this column, City Diary, is a channel for you to do that. When you experience a bad Vietnam day or a very great Vietnam day and feel like sharing, you know there’s an email address dedicated to you: [email protected].

Have a nice weekend!

[jackbl]

When will Vietnamese tourists be “civilized”?
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VietNamNet Bridge – The owner of Ba Duc ancient house, a famous relic in Dong Hoa Hiep village in Tien Giang province, tells a local newspaper that he only welcomes foreign visitors and groups of Vietnamese visitors organized by prestigious travel agents. Why?

According to Saigon Tiep Thi newspaper, the ancient house used to welcome both Vietnamese and foreign visitors. However, the house’s owner, Mr. Phan Van Duc, realized the sad fact that whenever Vietnamese tourists left his house, his orchard became bare and full of rubbish.

Mr. Duc said that Vietnamese tourists often asked for cuisines processed from turtles and snakes (not interested in environmental protection). They often made noise after drinking and discharged waste everywhere. Duc said he was afraid that foreign visitors will go away if they see it.

The owner of Ut Kiet ancient house, which is ranked as the most beautiful ancient house in Vietnam by Japanese archaeologists, treats local tourists the same way.

Tour guides said that while foreign tourists pay attention to each detail in ancient houses, Vietnamese tourists are only interested in taking picture, not tour guides’ introduction of the houses.

Nguyen Van My, director of the Lua Viet Tourism Company, Vietnamese tourists are not interested in learning about the places they visit, but in drinking and massage.

“It is very easy for tour guides, but tourists do not know that they suffer losses by that way of travel,” My said.

“The resolute attitude of the owners of ancient houses may make Vietnamese travelers change their thinking. Owners of ancient houses have been aware of preservation, tourists need to show their understanding,” said Huynh Thanh Huu, from the Department of Culture, Sports and Tourism of Tien Giang province.

Poor awareness of Vietnamese tourists has become a hot topic on many online forums. Some analyze that the “farmer-style” has been deeply absorbed into Vietnamese, which results in their behavior, specifically: discharging rubbish at public sites, neglecting traffic lights, etc. To change this, Vietnamese must self-realize the matter and improve themselves. However, it will take a long time.

Van Phong

[volcano]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

I have never actually seen this used in a conversation unless it's an online conversation.

Even if 2 people are about the same age, the more polite way is to address him / her as anh / chi first.

"toi"...."ban"...is used when both parties are very close and have known each other for a very long time.for e.g a group of neighbours who have been childhood friends since young,even though they might have a age gap of 5-10 years,but they will seldomly address each other as anh/chi/em etc...normally will just call the person by the name.

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

Hi,

digged out some very very old sms but i was using googldtranslator back then but i would like to know the accurate meaning:

Anh ve singapore song tiep cuoc song nhu truoc kia dung quan tam den nhung chuyen da xay ra truoc do

toi se doi ban. cam nhan va hieu tinh cam = i will wait you. feel and understand sentiment <= correct?

ban muon minh ket hon khong. toi rat muon co cuoc song binh yen va khong phai suy nghi tat ca cua cuoc song. = you want us get married? i really want to have a normal life and not to think about all that life.

voi ban toi se khong doi hoi gi. chi can ban bay gio co the tra het cac khoan no cua toi. thoi khong noi nua toi dau hay toi do <-understand half pass 6 only but KC TRAP spotted!

khong biet do co phai la tinh cam khong nhung luc dau toi khong nghi den dieu do, tinh cam phai trai qua thu thach nhung ngay vua qua ban luon ben canh dong vien an ui luc do toi hieu 1nguoi quan tam toi la tat ca

bay gio toi khong the nghi nhieu. neu 1 ai do cho toi tien tra no du ho co muon toi lam gi toi cung se lam

that long toi khong biet phai cam on ban nhu the nao cho het. thanh that cam on.

cong viec cua toi la: san xuat va che bien ca ba sa

thanks for the help. sincerely thanks all the bros for providing me the learning opportunities.

help pls?