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[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by lovecupid85

Thanks a lot bro I also trying myself to figure out that word thanks slot

sometimes vb use words that cannot be found on vdick or google.. difficult to figure out.


i.e. a vb sms "a pun chua?"
after i ask her wtf she sms, she then sms proper "anh buon ngu chua" [you sleepy already?]

[lovecupid85]

Thanks KT I think mostly is her typo.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

must be typo...

I guess she mean... Len do "BUON CHAN LAM".... go there very boring

FIRST TIME you never ask for the content of the conversation in order to translate

It can mean "go Boon Chen there work" too.
Have to know the context of the conversation first to better understand n translate. But KT's decoding sounds more likely.

Ya, 1st time he no ask huh. Dun know y?

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

i.e. a vb sms "a pun chua?"
after i ask her wtf she sms, she then sms proper "anh buon ngu chua" [you sleepy already?]

I think this sms only she knows, no others will know....

For the word pun, it is 1 of the shortform for BUON. If she argue that it is pu=buon, n=ngu, then bo tay

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

FIRST TIME you never ask for the content of the conversation in order to translate

It's because my TV has improved a bit... just managed to translate a few more words w/o context..... Still alot to learn from u nhe

[jackbl]

For those who are visitng Da Nang during this period


Da Nang room prices shoot up ahead of fireworks fest
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While it is still two months from this year’s international fireworks contest in the central city of Da Nang , many local hotels have raised room prices by 3-4 times the usual rates.

Long, an employee of the 62-room Bien Vang hotel on Pham Van Dong Street, said a double deluxe room for a 10-person group is now available for VND2.2 million (US$105) a night, while it usually only costs VND480,000.

“Prices of other hotels located far away from the fireworks display spot are already as high as VND1.8 million,” said Long.

Similarly, other hotels near the festival location, whose usual room prices hover around VND500,000, now charge tourists VND1.8 million, and VND2.2 million for standard and deluxe rooms.

“Such prices are particular for this occasion every year,” said Tien of Golden Sea hotel.

According to the price lists at the reception tables of these hotels, room prices during the festival are only 30 percent higher than usual rates, which is in accordance with the regulation stipulated by the municipal Department of Culture, Sports, and Tourism.

However, most of the receptionists said the lists are of no use.

When coming for booking, customers will make contact with the hotels’ sales executives for the exact prices, they said.

An official from the Department of Culture, Sports, and Tourism said it is stipulated that hotels not hike prices by more than 30 percent during the festival.

Huynh Nhon Minh, deputy head of the department, said those hotels that rip off tourists will receive strict sanctions, and even lose their licenses.

However, it is not easy to crackdown on the hotels, since they all have the prices listed as per law.

Customers should have proof of being overcharged in order for authorities to impose penalties, he said.

To date, 202 out of 279 hotels in the city have submitted their price lists and guaranteed not to rip off tourists during the firework festival. The municipal government also announced the hotline 0511.3812340 to receive reports on overcharging hotels.

Titled “Sac mau Da Nang” (The Color of Da Nang), the annual international firework display contest and festival this year will take place in two nights from April 29 at the Han River.

The event will see the participation of 5 teams including David Whysall International Fireworks from Canada, Dragon Dancing Fireworks from China, Jacques Couturier Organization from France, Parente Fireworks from Italy and the Da Nang Team from the host country, Vietnam.

Tuoitre

[jackbl]

Local authorities need to join forces to stop overcharging
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VietNamNet Bridge – Vietnamese people, after violently criticizing the overcharging to “clean the tourism sector” have offered a lot of suggestions to stop the evil.


Associate Professor Dr Pham Trung Luong, Deputy Head of the Tourism Research and Development Institute:

I think that there are two reasons behind the overcharging – the lack of the awareness of people and the loosened management of the watchdog agencies.

Many Vietnamese people only try to sell high to obtain high immediate benefits and they forget that they need to be self-respecting. The thing usually happens in a society where the people’s awareness is still poor.

It is necessary to upgrade the capability of management agencies, or the overcharging evil would never be settled. It is also necessary to impose heavy fines if any overcharging activities are discovered.

However, people’s awareness will only be upgraded if the living standard improves. If people are still poor, they would have to overcharge to earn enough money.

Now I feel a big pessimism because I still cannot see any solutions to ease the overcharging. 12 years ago, the Prime Minister released a legal document on strengthening the security measures and environment protection at tourism sites. However, no considerable improvement has been made since.

Tran The Dung, Deputy Director of The He Tre Travel Firm

In the immediate time, I think we can apply some measures as follows

1) Local authorities have to take responsibility for the evils in their localities. For example, when travelers were overcharged for the fish they bought at the Ha Long Bay, the bay management board must not stay as the outsider. The board of management has been assigned by the state to manage the bay and sell excursion tickets.

In the past, Nguyen Tri Dien, Chair of Da Lat City once intervened in a case where a hotel overcharged a traveler. Most recently, Secretary of the Communist Party Committee of Hoi An City also instructed to discipline a barber shop owner who overcharged foreigners.

2) Establishing tourism security companies

15 years ago, HCM City once proposed to set up a tourism police force. However, the proposal was not approved. The security officers of the Thanh Nien Xung Phong Company which provides services for public interests have been assigned the task instead. However, in fact, the force could not help prevent the overcharging, and in many cases, they are even intimidated by gangsters.

If the State does not agree to the model of tourism police, should we establish professional security companies which have the staff with good foreign language skills and martial arts, necessary tools to protect themselves and travelers.

3) Helping people increase income

The income of many domestic tour guides is not high enough for their lives. Once they live in poverty, they would not have enough enthusiasm to serve travelers.

I think that travel firms should apply the pay mechanism which is being applied in other countries. Besides the tour fees, travelers also give tips to the people who serve them directly. In other South East Asian countries, travelers have to spend 3 dollars a day to drivers and guides.

4) Travelers should be well informed

Tour operators, tour guides should provide sufficient information and concrete warnings to travelers, so that travelers can keep cautious during their trips.

Nguyen Quy Phuong, Head of the Travel Department of the Vietnam National Tourism Administration VNAT

Local authorities need to take responsibility for the evil. It is clear that the quality of the destinations decides the quality of tourism products. VNAT alone will not be able to settle the problem. In dealing with the evil, local authorities need to join forces.

It is also necessary to upgrade people’s awareness. They should understand that if tourists keep away from Vietnam, they would lose revenues.

Ngoc Ha – Tran The Dung

[jackbl]

Educating tourism workers helps reduce rip-offs
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First of all, thank you TuoiTreNews for stories exposing scams by local businesses at tourist destinations and naming potential helpers in different perspectives.

Every tourist visiting Vietnam is that country’s ambassador. The messages he or she takes home and shares with others through phone calls, emails to friends and contacts or posts on the internet for a few billion of the 7 billion people in the world, can make or break the Vietnamese tourism industry.

As one of the stories mentioned: “A survey in 2009 shows that 95 percent don't come back again and the main reason cited being the constant overcharging and scamming they encounter on their travels. If the situation is not resolved completely, what will happen to the fate of Vietnamese tourism in the next 10 years?”

I hope the responsible authorizes and the media will find solutions soon to educate people who are earning a living from tourism. Let them know the damage they are causing, not only related to money but also related to the image and reputation of the country.
Of course, we don’t expect all to turn honest and decent overnight. Vietnam’s department of tourism can certainly come up with some smart ideas to encourage people to do the right thing. For example, make a Vietnam Tourism Trusted List, like we have the Better Business Bureau (BBB) in Canada. When everyone knows that word of mouth and negative reviews online can kill a business, the situation will probably improve.

Vietnamese ripping off tourists can most certainly change when and if they know that their pockets will be hurt in the long run. The government or local authorities like the People’s Committees in wards, districts and cities can come up with enlightened program to educate them, through the Vietnamese media and some kind of control mechanism, like listing reputable businesses or setting up a system to handle public complaints with phones and addresses published.

This is also a very simple matter of demand and supply. Tourists need to know where they can go so that they will not be ripped off. The government or local authorities might suggest some registered business owners that abide by the rules and regulations of not cheating tourists. Of course not all things will be perfect, but you need a starting point to encourage vendors to get better and smarter, for that’s the only way not to “lose 95%” of the tourists that came to Vietnam in 2009.

[jackbl]

Knn lidat also can???

A man is trying to get a refund from a matchmaking agency after he rejected his bride for being not good looking enough.

Mr Chen, a 51-year-old Singaporean businessman, had hoped to find a new "mother" for his children after his divorce.

He approached an agency specialising in Vietnamese brides in August last year and picked an 18-year-old beauty, but was rejected by the woman.

He eventually settled for a 23-year-old Vietnamese woman and even brought her home with him.

However, he changed his mind after sleeping with her for a week, claiming that she wasn't good looking enough.

Without informing the matchmaking agency, he sent the woman back to Vietnam, then approached the agency to demand a refund of $6,800.

Mr Chen even brought the agency to court for his refund but lost his case.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Knn lidat also can???

A man is trying to get a refund from a matchmaking agency after he rejected his bride for being not good looking enough.

Mr Chen, a 51-year-old Singaporean businessman, had hoped to find a new "mother" for his children after his divorce.

He approached an agency specialising in Vietnamese brides in August last year and picked an 18-year-old beauty, but was rejected by the woman.

He eventually settled for a 23-year-old Vietnamese woman and even brought her home with him.

However, he changed his mind after sleeping with her for a week, claiming that she wasn't good looking enough.

Without informing the matchmaking agency, he sent the woman back to Vietnam, then approached the agency to demand a refund of $6,800.

Mr Chen even brought the agency to court for his refund but lost his case.

REad this from wanbao too. That "smart alec" tried to pull a fast one. This kind of person disgrace to us singaporeans.

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by vietboy

Wa, jack kor kor throw a bomb at me.

Originally Posted by jackbl

Sorry I cut and paste din notice its teaching TA Can u help to translate it to TV??? Thats a test for u

Since u interested to learn TV, seek your help to do translation but u nvr reply

[jackbl]

Educating children by “classic” or “modern” methods?
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VietNamNet Bridge - Sex education is not a new topic but it is always a controversial issue. VietNamNet Bridge would like to introduce the below article by Ha Van Thinh.


A piece of news appeared on the local media last week and it has stirred up public opinion. That’s the story about a woman who taught her 14-year-old daughter how to use condom, after the girl introduced her boyfriend to her mother.

The news was so hot that tens of thousands of people, who are parents or future-parents, have joined online discussions. So far, the classical side has gained the upper hand over the renovated side. Through this case, we should think about educating Vietnamese children about love and sex.

First of all, the thought of the value of virginity (virginity is worth thousands of taels of gold) is the concept of the humankind in the past and at present.

The clearest proof is the Old Testament emphasizes the most fearful sin – virgin’s sin. The later generation called it the “original sin” or “mistakenly eating forbidden fruit.”

It seems that the “war” over the thin boundary to differentiate girl and womanhood is still the war for ever?

To have the right answer for the case in which the mother taught her 14-year-old daughter how to use condom is useless. It is more important to define what right conception is.

The time that water morning glory and salted egg-plant were main food of Vietnamese has been very far away. Today, with nutritious food, Vietnamese children’s puberty comes 5-7 years more early. Information, particularly information about sex, floods the media. Meanwhile, conception of virginity has been different.

The adult cannot neglect that fact and the “modernizing trend”. On the other side, conception of “virginity” of wives is not as strict as in the past since most of boys have become men before they get married. Requiring their wives to be virgin is considered unpractical and selfish.

However, change of conceptions and real lifestyle in society does not mean that we have to neglect of indirectly encourage teens to have early sexual relations, or very early.

If parents agree with the above argument, it is naturally recognized that we need to educate children to see virginity as something valuable and to maintain virginity as long as they can. Teaching children to us condoms must be considered the last measure when parents have no choice.

When parents and the society support children to have early sexual relations, it means the disobedience of the law. Guiding children to use condoms does mean that the children would use condoms in sexual relations with their boyfriends.

Though the age has changed but the majority of society do not support the above way of education, which is temporarily called “Paradise 14.” That early step warns many immeasurable dangers.

Ha Van Thinh

[jackbl]

Cell phone user cheated in bogus promotional program
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A man in Nghe An Province was cheated out of VND25 million (US$1,200) by an unknown man who informed the victim that he had won a grand promotional prize worth $8,600 from a telecom firm.


Police in Nghe An Province are investigating a case in which a local man was cheated of VND25 million (US$1,200) by a swindler who falsely told the man that he had won a big promotional prize from a telecom firm.

Ha Phi Hoc, head of the Huoi Mong Village, Dong Van Commune, Que Phong District, reported to police that on February 15 he received a call from the number 01666934533, in which a strange man informed Hoc that he had won a grand prize in a sale promotional program from military-run telecom firm Viettel.

Under the program, the organizing board had identified the winners through a random selection based on a computerized program using subscribers’ phone numbers.

The unknown man said Hoc had won a SH scooter worth VND110 million ($5,230) plus VND70 million in cash.

The swindler then asked Hoc to pay a total VND25 million in expenses for taking the prize, by purchasing cell phone recharging cards worth the same and then using the cards to recharge the phone bearing the said number.

The expenses included VND2 million for the vehicle registration fee and transport cost, VND2 million for the Fund for the Poor, VND4 million for TV broadcasting fee, VND5 million for prize procedures, VND2 million for video shooting, VND3 million in travel fees for the organizing board’s staff, and VND5 million as gifts for the board, Hoc said.

“I borrowed money from my acquaintances and then made the payment as instructed by the unknown man. But I later found out that I had been cheated…” he told police.

A similar case occurred in the province late last month, when Lo Thi Huong, of Bac Son Commune, Quy Hop District, received a phone call from the number 01648044..., in which the caller informed her that she had won a iPhone prize worth VND18 million ($865) from a sale promotional program by Viettel, VnExpress newswire reported.

The caller asked Huong pay expenses for taking the prize by recharging the phone bearing the said number with a recharging card worth VND500,000. After Huong recharged the phone, she dialed the phone number many time but nobody answered.

[jackbl]

Café bars’ music a permanent nuisance
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Noise pollution on streets in major Vietnamese cities has worsened at an alarming rate. From café bars to commercial centers and supermarkets, many businesses turn their high-powered speakers to maximum volume.


Those street-front premises, especially café bars where teenagers flock to kill time, compete with one another to make their music the loudest, in hope of attracting customers. The speakers work all day long, often until midnight.

Local authorities issued pecuniary punishments but failed to stop the spread of this brand of pollution, despite having the power to close down the premises.

Increase

In Ho Chi Minh City, more and more café bars have opened on busy streets like Truong Sa, Vinh Vien, Su Van Hanh, Le Van Tho, Cay Tram and Nguyen Anh Thu. All of them are well equipped with high-capacity loudspeakers to play hard rock and dance music from morning till night.

The noise is not contained to within the premises, but spills out onto public places like the street, and is unavoidably heard by unhappy residents living in houses nearby.

This has occurred year after year. Once local residents lodged complaints, local authorities issued fines but failed to prevent the violations, as the businesses continued to be a nuisance to local residential areas.

The street-front café bars spring up side by side and compete with one another to ensure that others do not drown their ‘attractive music’ out.

Ms. Hoa, a resident of Truong Sa Street in Phu Nhuan District, said, “I have fallen ill because of the noise pollution from the bar DJ Hoang g next to my house.”

“My son had to move his wife and children out of my house to live in a rented house in another area to escape the noise,” she added, claiming that she has headaches and hearing loss due to the music.

Not only pointing speakers out onto the street, most café bars hire young girls as hostesses. They always wear short skirts and walk or stand in dancing positions to attract male youngsters.

Some bars open even till 3:00 in the morning.

Bar 008 on Su Van Hanh Street in District 10 ‘deploys’ eight high-powered BJL speakers to produce extremely loud music. Lights and decorations inside the bar make it look like a miniature discotheque.

A tall hostess approached Tuoi Tre reporter and lowered her mouth close to client’s ear and shouted, “May I have your drink order?”

“Soon, when more clients come, we will turn on louder music, it will be no different from a disco here.”

Many male teenagers took turns to rush out of the premises to answer their mobile phones while the music was roaring, overwhelming the bar.

And it is not only bars. Fashion shops and supermarkets Z3, Sao Thoa, X7, and AO on streets Truong Chinh, Hai Ba Trung, Le Van Sy and Nguyen Dinh Chieu turn on their music for the entire street to hear.

The excessive noise pollution has caused a variety of diseases in locals, due to both damaged physiological and psychological health as the displeasing noise disrupts the activities and balance of people’s daily life.

It is easy to understand that noise pollution can cause annoyance and aggression, hypertension, high stress levels, hearing loss, sleep disturbances, and other harmful effects; even forgetfulness and severe depression and at times of panic attacks.

As a rule, the normal range of hearing must be below 75 dB in the daytime and 70 dB at night till 22:00pm. Above that level it is hazardous and can result in permanent hearing damage. Auditory nerves can be permanently damaged from prolonged exposure at 90 dB. 120 dB can cause pain and ringing in the ear, and sharp pain and extensive destruction of the auditory nerves occurs at 140 dB. At 150 - 160 dB massive destruction of the auditory nerves and persistent ringing in the ears will occur immediately.

Authorities read law and say they ‘may close them down’

Surveys found that those café bars have created noise at levels from 80dB to 94 dB, which far exceeds the level ruled appropriately by law.

Dinh Hoang Linh, chief of the culture and information unit of District 10 said his agency has fined many bars for noise pollution.

He promised, “We will close them down should they be found in violation for a third time. He called on residents to report the nuisance to him so that he could eliminate it.”

Actually, residents and management boards of residential areas have brought their complaints to authorities for years, but the violating premises keep operating, leaving some residents little option but to move to other area.

[jackbl]

Don’t go to the post office shirtless
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A couple years ago, I went back to the countryside and visited a post office. Seeing locals reading newspapers in a clean and airy space, I said to myself: “What a civilized place!”

However, while leaving the post office, I spotted a middle-aged man coming inside to use the public telephone. He only wore shorts and exposed his body, which was covered with sweat and dust.

“How could you dress like that to go to a post office?” I wondered. If the man had known that everyone was staring at him and if he had understood what they were thinking, he would have been ashamed.

Most likely, the shabby man thought the post office was just like his home, or maybe he was in too much of a rush to dress up. In rural areas, there are many who have yet to keep up with the pace of civilization and as such, his unkempt appearance in public could be forgiven.

However, at a post office near my house in Ho Chi Minh City, I recently saw a shirtless young man passing a crowd to arrive at the counter and pay his phone bill. I could not help thinking: “Living in a modern city, how could he dress in such a primitive way? Is he shameless or does he want to stand out?”

This is just what I saw in the post office. In the city’s streets, it is not hard to spot people riding bikes shirtless in congested traffic, cursing, littering or spitting in public. Seeing these “ugly people”, I feel ashamed and upset. Indirectly, they have spoiled the image of the streets, especially when Ho Chi Minh City is striving to become a civilized and modern metropolis.

In 2005 the government published a decree governing the sanction of administrative violations related to social security, order and safety, which also includes penalties of uncivilized lifestyle. The authorities should implement the decree effectively to eliminate the ugly images caused by a number of people in public.