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[vietboy]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Anh oi, ve sgp sao k co nt em? Minh di choi cung nhau di

Di dau choi vay? Dc cho e di kg?

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by jjchim

No lar, bro jack, my standard no where near u guys here...

You're too modest..... for me, those words that I dunno I used dictionary to check out so u will think that my TV very good

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by vietboy

Di dau choi vay? Dc cho e di kg?

Khong dc. Em la 1 nguoi ong xa TOT, khong cho e di choi con gai dc.

[jackbl]

Vietnamese billionaires and multi-million dollar simcards
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VietNamNet Bridge – Nowadays, money is not the only thing that shows the upper class of billionaires. Possessing luxurious cars, aircrafts, watches, mobile phones, and especially the simcards worth several billions of dong, has become in fashion.

The big economic difficulties in 2012 did not hurt the rich people. A lot of quiet transactions where simcards were traded at several billions of dong were carried out. Meanwhile, a normal simcard was priced at just tens of thousands of dong.

The stories about the “king simcards”

What are the most expensive things super rich people usually bring with themselves? In many cases, these are not the watches on the hands, or Vertu mobile phones, but the “super simcards” worth billions of dong. The special thing of the simcards is that the simcards will never depreciate.

“There are many Vertu mobile phones, and there are also many luxurious cars. Meanwhile, there is only one simcard with specific numerals. You can only find only one simcard with specific numerals in one country,” a billionaire said.

Dang Minh Duc, the owner of the simcard No 0988888888, which is considered the most expensive simcard in Vietnam, said he is very proud of the “king simcard”. Duc said that he receives a lot of calls every day from the people who ask him to sell them the simcard with the specific numerals. In oriental feng shui theory, the numeral “8” symbolizes the prosperity and luck. China, for example, opened the Olympic tournament at 8h8’ of August 8, 2008.

Though the simcard with 8 “8s” is valued at one million dollars (21 billion dong), a lot of people still express their determination to buy it. However, to date, Duc has refused all the offers to purchase his simcard.

Besides, the simcards with the numerals “6” which symbolizes good fortune and “9” which symbolizes power, have also been in high demand. The owner of the simcard with numerals 091x.888.888 said that some people have offered to pay it at 2 billion dong, but he would not sell it, because he has been very successful with the simcard.

The owners of the super simcards are all billionaires, and they know each other. TVChuong, a young lord from Soc Trang province, the son of a big guy in seafood import-export is one of them. He is now using the simcard 097x.999999 – the “simcard of the God of Wealth.”

The owner of the simcard 098x999999 is also a big name in the business circle, who is the brother of the general director of ML taxi group. Meanwhile, the simcard 09x7777777 is being held by Tung V, a young businessman from Nam Dinh, who is running a Vertu shop which is very well known to Vietnamese playboys.

Expensive simcards in high demand, cheap simcards unsold

On SSC, a simcard forum, or muare.vn, one would see the ad pieces for the simcards with “lucky numerals”. These are not called “super simcards” like the ones worth billions of dong. However, they are different from normal simcards, because they comprise of “lucky numerals” such as 6 or 8.

The simcards were once hunted by many mobile phone users, who wanted to seek good luck for themselves. However, the products have become unsold after mobile network operators launched the new simcards with 10 numerals into the market.

Meanwhile, original simcards remain expensive. Tung V has revealed that he was lucky enough to purchase the simcard 096x888.888 which he has just sold at “billions of dong.”

Another king simcard, 096x888.888, is being offered to purchase at 3.5 billion dong by a big guy in the real estate sector in Vinh Phuc province.

Source: VTC

[sympak]

hi..can any of the bro here help me translate the words...
Thanks..

1 thang sau minh se gap lai,xa nhau do lam thu thach tinh yeu cua chung minh,"tinh chi dep khi con dang, doi mat vui khi da ven cau the"

[jackbl]

（综合电）真是禽兽夫妻！在新北市卖水饺的郑姓夫妻，找“人头丈夫”迎娶一名越南新娘，接来台湾后，逼她做 无薪奴工，全年无休在店里包水饺、洗碗盘，不仅分文工资都不给，凌晨回家还逼越南新娘当性奴，陪夫妻两人彻 夜玩3p（3人性交）。被害人试图反抗，却遭郑姓夫妻殴打，时间长达5年。

去年被害人终于逃离魔掌，台湾检方昨起诉郑姓夫妻，要求法官要重判。台湾新住民家庭成长协会秘书长柯宇琳直 呼：“太惨了吧？一听就让人想流眼泪。”台湾劳工阵线秘书长孙友联痛批：“一再发生不人道的案例，真是耻辱 ！”

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by jackbl

玩3p（3人性交)

whole story only can read and understand this.
please translate

[casannova03]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

whole story only can read and understand this.
please translate

The gist of the story is:

Taiwan couple schemed and got vietnamese bride via "fake husband". Once here, they treat her like slave... work at their dumpling shop. All day all night, no pay no off. At night still must be sex slave and play 3P with the couple. When she struggled, they beat her up.... finally after 5 years, she managed to escaped...

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by casannova03

The gist of the story is:.

Bravo. Good translation. These few days u very active in SBF.

[jackbl]

Foreigners want more effective crime hotline
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While urging for more vigilant responses from police to complaints of noise and crime, foreigners also concur that they do not have major security problems in Ho Chi Minh City

An Indian expat was happily shooting pictures of “mobile nurseries,” vendors selling plants on bicycles when his expensive camera was snatched by a young man on a motorbike.

The theft happened last August in broad daylight on Cong Hoa Street opposite the Maximark supermarket in Tan Binh District, but there was “nothing I could do.”

“I went to the local police station but it was closed. When I was robbed, other people around, including lottery ticket sellers and the local xe om (motorbike taxi) drivers were smiling. It was as though they knew who the robber was, and that this was not an uncommon occurrence there,” he said.

The Indian, who requested anonymity, said he did not know he could have called a hotline for help.

Senior lieutenant colonel Tran Van Ngoc, vice chief investigator of the HCMC Police Department, said a hotline staffed with English speakers for foreigners to report crimes (08 3 838 7200) was launched several years ago. However, the number is not widely known and few crimes have been reported.

He said many foreigners are reluctant to report crimes to the police and when they do, they tend to notify only the local police, as they are unaware of his department’s hotline.

“We have more than 200 policemen spread throughout the city’s districts and we are committed to taking effective action against criminals once unlawful activity is reported,” he said, adding that in recent years, his agency has successively resolved a high percentage of reported crimes.

Meanwhile, many of the city’s expats said more should be done to promote the hotline to their community and foreign travelers.

“I am not aware that a hotline had been established, but I am aware of the fact that many foreigners have called for extra measures to be taken in order to counteract a specific pattern of incidents happening to them,” said Frederikke Lindholm, a Danish expat who has been in Vietnam for four years.

Lindholm also said she does not think that there are any major problems that foreigners face here that are exclusive to Vietnam.

Tim Russell, a British expat who has been in Vietnam for nine years, said there were easy steps that could be taken to better publicize the hotline. “The hotline number could be given on a leaflet to tourists when they go through immigration at airports and land borders. But it would have to be effective - staffed by people who speak good English, and the police would have to respond to complaints quickly,” he said.

However, Russell also said he does not think there are major security problems for foreigners in Vietnam.

“I’ve been here for 9 years and it is a lot safer than my hometown in the UK. The only problem I’ve had is maids/nannies stealing private property. Burglary, street crime, violence, etc. are all very rare here as far as expats are concerned, and I hope it stays that way,” he said.

Tom Hricko, an American photographer who has been in Vietnam for seven years, advised authorities to print the number regularly in English speaking magazines and newspapers, on signs in areas frequented by foreigners and perhaps even on the side of buses.

“As far as the security of foreigners is concerned, I have never had a problem here. For a city of this size, HCMC is remarkably safe,” he said.

Meanwhile, he said many Vietnamese really do not seem to have much respect for the police and have told him they would never call the police if they had a problem.

“This is a strange situation to many foreigners who have the tradition of the police as ‘helpers’. I certainly never got any satisfaction when I complained to the police in my former neighborhood about noise at 3:00 a.m. from a disco,” he said.

Although expats agree on the necessity of a better publicized crime hotline, many said HCMC is relatively safe for foreigners and that crime of this sort happens in every city in the world.

“Most of the problems I hear about happen to tourists rather than expats,” Hricko said.

He warned against some Filipino scammers who hang around waiting to snare an unsuspecting foreigner and lure them into dishonest card games before extorting their money.

An American expat, who wished to be unnamed, said most local residents go out of their way to warn foreigners about the dangers of theft, scams and other “social evils” and seem to be exceedingly embarrassed when they hear of foreigners being victimized by crime.

“It’s a bizarre expectation many foreigners project onto Vietnam, that its major cities be the only ones on earth devoid of dishonest taxi drivers and petty thieves; and that their police force also be uniquely equipped to recover every last stolen camera and cell phone,” he said.

[Me Siam Bu]

that is really bad

[jackbl]

Japanese tourists do not return to Vietnam: report
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Japanese tourism industry insiders dismiss the claims made by Vietnamese tourism authorities, saying few Japanese tourists ever return to Vietnam because of poor service and lack of attractions.

The Vietnam National Administration of Tourism recently estimated 40 percent of Japanese return to Vietnam at least for a second time.

But a spokesperson for leading Japanese tour operator JTB said at the Ho Chi Minh City International Tourism Fair last September that “many Japanese would be surprised with the big number. But that included those coming for business purposes.”

“Vietnam is not a popular destination for Japanese tourists yet.”

Shigemastsu Akifumi of H.I.S Song Han tourism company based in Da Nang said the company received 12,000 tourists from Japan every year but less than 1 percent made a second visit.

“They say there’s nothing interesting,” he said.

Many are angered by the unrespectful and indifferent attitude of staffs at hotels, even at four- and five-star places, and large restaurants, saying they just bring the food and rarely ask or notice if customers need a seasoning or tissues, he said.

“The Vietnamese managers tend to side with their staff even if they make mistakes, and the tourists can only solve their problems after talking to foreign managers.”

His company itself has problems with many restaurants, which promise a proper menu but then serve something else and offer “unacceptable” excuses like they are unable to find the right ingredients or have a new chef, he said.

Hospitality agencies in Vietnam are happy with "receiving a visitor just once” and that is a “dangerously” low bar, he added.

Saori Kozumi, a manager at the HCMC-based Apex company, a leading tour operator for Japanese in Vietnam, said taxi scams, dirty toilets, and airport bureaucracy also discouraged tourists from returning.

The low number of tour guides who can speak Japanese -- just 401 -- is another problem for Japanese tourists, tour companies said.

They are looking forward to Vietnam setting up a tourism promotion agency in Japan.

The Vietnam National Administration of Tourism approved such an office more than a decade ago, but nothing has happened so far.

Hoang Thi Diep, deputy head of the administration, said they have been allocated around VND1 billion (US$47,850) for the office in Japan, but it would cost nearly VND4.2 billion.

She said she has sought the assistance of Vietnam Airlines and tourism companies in the two countries.

Laos and Cambodia have tourism offices in Japan though they get fewer Japanese tourists than Vietnam, which ranks 12th among countries visited by Japanese tourists.

Nguyen Quoc Ky, general director of state-owned tourism company Vietravel, said: “It is important to make people return, especially from nearby markets since that will prove the attractiveness and stability of the destination.”

But with Vietnam not managing to prove that yet, Ky said it has lost value as a destination and his Japanese partners keep asking for price cuts.

His company had to reduce prices by 10 percent last year and has been asked for a further 10-15 percent discount this year.

Akifumi said “The return rate is low, so we need to attract new customers by offering painfully low prices.

“The situation is very difficult, but few government officials understand that.”

Under these circumstances, Vietnam’s target of getting one million Japanese tourists by 2015 seems out of reach, the companies said.

The number of visitors from that country increased 8.9 percent last year to more than 481,500, including those coming for business.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Khong dc. Em la 1 nguoi ong xa TOT, khong cho e di choi con gai dc.

Tai sao? Tai sao? Huhuhu...
E kg di choi con gai, e di an nhau voi 2 ng anh trai. Dc kg?

[jackbl]

Another side of Vietnam
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A Facebook group seeks to elicit positive experiences from foreigners in the country


It was an unforgettable experience for the expatriate. He was out of petrol on a road in the middle of nowhere one night, and was pushing his bike in the rain, when a stranger materialized and virtually rescued him.

“A Vietnamese fella comes up behind me, having a laugh saying ‘3km to petrol’ and rides off. A couple of minutes later he comes back with two liters, then says ‘you come me’,” he wrote on Facebook group Another side of Vietnam.

“I offer to pay, he doesn’t want it and says ‘you have coffee with me, one hour speak English’. Pretty much couldn’t refuse, I did however manage to get him to accept petrol money in the end but he insisted on paying for the coffee.”

A member narrates the story on the group’s “No Vina-bashing week” from February 21 to 28 where several members share experiences that “could only ever happen in Vietnam.”

One has written in about how total strangers helped them when a person in his group fell ill. It is not hard to conceive something like that happening anywhere in the world.

It is safe to say, however - without overly generalizing - that it is the smaller but thoughtful and spontaneous act of kindness that indicates more about people.

Vietweek spoke to several foreigners who are not members of the group. They came up with some insights into the ‘us versus them’ thing.

Marc Spindel, an American living in Vietnam, says: “Most anger seems to stem from misunderstandings. The barter system here is the way most goods are purchased. This is a huge obstacle for most foreigners who have no day-to-day experience with this. We are used to one huge corporation fixing the price for everything and having no right to negotiate how much we pay to buy a single piece of bread for example.

“In a sense, we feel naked and vulnerable when we are first exposed to this new way of buying goods. It’s a very primal experience and most people never really get used to it.”

Backpackers are the most vulnerable to this culture shock as they have the most to lose by overpaying on their travels, Spindel says.

“In the local markets where prices are not fixed, speaking just a few phrases of intelligible Vietnamese has gotten me the same or nearly the same prices as the locals.”

Despite several negative experiences in Vietnam, including petty theft, he says the positive far outweighs the negative.

“I still feel safer and more comfortable here than any other country I have lived in - at last count, that was seven places.”

Bob Johnston, a writer who operates a café in the south-central province of Phu Yen with his wife and has lived there for almost six years, says: “If you must live and work in the big cities talk to the Vietnamese who you think are your friends to guide you to people they know won’t take you for a ride.

“I don’t believe there is a lot of scheming because the majority of the people don’t share information with a wide circle of friends, they react based on past experience.

“However, if you spend all of your time in tourist and backpacker areas and give in at the first sign of being ‘pushed’ into something, real or implied, the people will base future reactions with foreigners on that.”

Alfredo de la Casa, a British lecturer in finance who lives and works in HCMC, says whether an experience in Vietnam is good or bad depends on how a foreigner reacts to cultural differences.

“For example, before moving to Vietnam, I visited the country as a tourist. I came with a friend and we experienced Vietnam together. However, while I was enjoying the country a lot, the people and the culture, he was getting constantly upset. He wanted the traffic, roads and pavement to be like in London, and he constantly got very angry and upset in HCMC.

“I would also prefer British traffic, however I realized that people don’t walk here and therefore pavements have more use for parking or setting up a business.”

He also criticizes the negative attitude of some tourists who think they are better than locals and end up not experiencing what they hoped for when visiting Vietnam.

“Many people, when they travel to another country, especially to a poorer country than their own, behave as if they are better than the locals, which is never the case.

“Going back to my example of my first visit to Vietnam, my friend got really upset at Wrap and Roll Restaurant because they did not make a dish for him. I told him that when he goes to a restaurant in London, he could never ask for dishes not in the menu or get upset if they don’t have what he wants. So why do it here?”

“I have endless examples of waitresses, usually earning very low salaries, who have chased after me from a café or restaurant because they thought I had forgotten my change when I left them a tip.”

De La Casa says he has many Vietnamese friends who helped him a lot “even when our friendship was just recent and fresh. You can forget about that in most western countries.”

Grant Chenery, a British expat who has been living in Vietnam for six years, says he has traveled “fairly extensively” and finds it very difficult to comprehend why so many expats develop and harbor such negative feelings towards their hosts.

“I’ve found that it’s the people that have never lived, worked, or socialized with the Vietnamese on a day-to-day basis that are the most fearful and mistrusting.

“Anyone who has spent time around the people in this country knows that, while they’re different in many ways, they are good people at heart and that they are not out to take foreigners for a ride.”

Another member of Another side of Vietnam has this touching story. He once crashed his Vespa into a coffee stall in the alley beside his house one morning.

“Needless to say, business for the coffee/juice stall was done for the day as it was damaged, glasses broken, coffee, juices and all gone.

“The owner was also injured. I offered to pay for all the damage and also if there was any medical fees that would be involved.

“She refused any payment and said it was an accident and that s**t happens.”

By An Dien - Minh Hung, Thanh Nien News

[jackbl]

Bridging the gap between the rich and poor
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The super-luxurious wedding in Ha Tinh, which is said to cost VND25 billion (US$1.2 million), could have built 25 clinics in isolated area or 830 charity houses.

There is a prevalent gap in the lifestyle of different social groups in Vietnam. While the wealthy can spend billions of dongs on their expensive transportations like the plane, yacht, or posh car, many laborers still have to struggle to earn their daily bread.

Wealth inequality exists between the rich and poor, both in the city and the countryside. But the gap widens between rural and urban dwellers. As the Vietnamese economy grows, its income per capita continues to increase and consequently, the country's position in the world’s arena has been increasingly improved. This is a positive trend, an essential factor in the economy and an expectation of all Vietnamese.

However, together with the economic boost, the gap between the rich and poor also grows wider. The rich get richer due to favorable conditions. The poor, although not getting poorer, will find it hard to improve their income due to limitations in capital, educational level and skills.

Income gap will lead to differences in quality of education, healthcare or entertainment. The life quality of a significant demographic group will, on that account, remain essentially static. Currently, as living expenses keep hiking, the pressure on poor people gets more and more intense, threatening to be the final straw that breaks the donkey’s back.

Adjusting the wealth gap between the rich and poor should be done through national strategic policies rather than piecemeal, local-oriented attempts. But first and foremost, the government should develop a consistent and comprehensive view on social justice that allows them to pay equal attention to all groups in the society.

For example, policies aimed at supporting businesses should be accompanied by measures to help farmers and social welfare programs to help the needy. And a more flexible and humane tax policy should be employed to introduce tax deduction or tax exemption to small traders, small-scale farmers, while increasing the excise tax on luxuries and recalibrating personal income tax.

Last but not least, improvements in life quality should be considered a target to reduce social gap as opposed to a narrow focus on increasing income per capita only.