Tieng Viet lovers club

[oldmcdonald]

Originally Posted by forgotoldnick

Give u some hint,

Theo toi du doan la em ay thich tien nhieu hon thich a mcdonald.

I predict she likes money more than she likes u.

In her defense, I didn't tell her it was becoming difficult to understand her so I doubt she realises an online translator would struggle with the English alphabetical equivalent of the Viet character.
Can anyone help with the translation please?

[jackbl]

Sex in border areas: Last part - Kidnap and escape
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Nguyen Thi Thao from Hoa Binh Province, who was sold to a brothel in Guangdong province in October 2011 when she was just 16, is among those who have fallen victim to brazen kidnappings and re-kidnappings by different factions.

One evening, a hotel employee from Linh Coong town called her manager – madam Xao – to supply one girl for the hotel. Thao was chosen and was taken there by two pimps, strapped in the middle on a motorbike.

Thao arrived at the hotel at 7pm and was taken to the third floor where many large, tattooed men were waiting. To her surprise, instead of having to serve them as usual, she was kidnapped.

First, one told her to sit down while another locked the door, after which the group tied and gagged her. With tears in her eyes, she was dragged out under the surveillance of the thugs, many of whom were wielding weapons.

She was then pushed into a car and transported to a deserted hill around 1 hour from Linh Coong, where she was left tied for the whole night while her captors negotiated with one brothel owner after another.

By early morning A Mai, the brutal husband of madam Xao who is her ‘rightful’ owner, led a group of around a dozen thugs to the hill to ‘rescue’ her.

Outnumbered, her kidnappers fled and Thao was ‘saved’, meaning she had to return to her old master and resume her sexual slavery.

Immediately after these events, Thao had to serve clients again without being given any rest. Instead of words of sympathy for her ordeal, all she got was, “this means you have to work more for me, to pay for the money I spent on hiring men to rescue you”.

Thao is not alone.

In madam Xao’s own house many girls have been kidnapped. Some were lucky enough to be rescued, while others have not been heard from again.

Than Thi Mo, who is infected with HIV, told Tuoi Tre, “they sell, kidnap, and re-kidnap girls as if they were vegetables. Some young, beautiful girls are kidnapped up to three times a month by different factions”.

At 3pm on September 3, 2011, Mo was inside a barber shop when five masked men entered and took her away. They threw her into a car before driving around to kidnap more women.

After their job was done, the kidnappers demanded ransoms for the girls. If they were in demand by clients, the brothel owners would pay the money to get them back. Meanwhile, those considered not worth the ransom would be sold to a different parlor.

Madam Van and her Chinese husband paid to get Mo back, as she was young and well-liked by many customers.

The kidnappers have even tricked the poor girls. Vu Thuy Ly, born in 1991 in Thanh Hoa province, met a man who spoke some Vietnamese and claimed to be able to rescue her and send her to Vietnam.

She trusted him and escaped from her brothel into his arms only to recognize that he was just another evil human trafficker who sold her to a new place.

Escape

An escape opportunity came to Nguyen Thi Thao when, at the end of last year, Chinese police started carrying out inspections of this red light district and called all suspected brothel owners in for questioning.

As a result, the pimps at A Mai’s house went into hiding to avoid police scrutiny and thus all of the prostitutes were left alone with only A Mai, the female manager.

Thao hatched a plan with another girl named Hong to tie the manager up. But Hong reneged, expressing doubt that they would be able to find the way back to Vietnam. But Thao reassured her that she had secretly hidden 200 yuan inside a pillow and could use the money to travel as far from the brothel as possible.

“Dying on the road is OK for me as long as it is not in this brothel”, Thao told Hong.

The two then stealthily snuck up on the manager, overpowered her and tied her up with the door curtain. They locked her inside a room, took her motorbike and fled.

Thao drove until 1am, and they had covered over 100km when a car sped up and bumped into them. The two escapees fell and were captured.

Thao was beaten hard by a pimp who said “stupid girl stupid girl. I told you never to run. Now how do you want to die?”

Hong too was savagely beaten. They used an iron bar to hit her face and back. They were escorted to the brothel where they were beaten again before being sold to another brothel.

Another attempted escapee is Nghiem Thi Thu of Vinh Phuc province. She and another girl managed to flee to a construction site where a guard agreed to let them in. But upon seeing the two in skimpy costumes, he made sexual advances, forcing the women to run away to a hotel.

The guard at this hotel agreed to hide the girls on the terrace. But again, when they were on the top floor, he started to abuse them.

Screaming, they ran downstairs and were grabbed by the guard, who called the police. The two were taken to the station and spent one day there before being sent back to Vietnam. Thu’s journey had ended.

[oldmcdonald]

Originally Posted by oldmcdonald

hey guys..i know senior bros have advised to fk and forget this chick...but it's so dang difficult!
We've kept texting but it's gone down from 5-6 a day to 1-2 a day.

Can you please help me with this?
A few days ago she wrote:
"Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so".

I didn't really understand so I just said I didn't understand and asked her when she'd go back to Vietnam for sure.

A day after that, she wrote:
"Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum".
What does this mean exactly? Google tells me she lost her vietnamese SIM and would sms me after she buys a new one.

I replied to that but she didn't reply. She usually replies instantly or a few hours later (prob working) but left it for two days and still no reply. I gave her a call today and her singaporean number has been disconnected!

What could this mean? Caught by the police? Could she be in some sort of trouble? I've checked her prepaid balance and there's still credit (surprised it even showed me even though it's not in service), so I do have my concerns about her.

bump. any takers?
cheers

[jackbl]

Inbound remittances on a rise
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Though the main remittances attraction channels, including real estate and securities, have not prospered yet this year, inbound remittances have still increased.

In Ho Chi Minh City alone, inward remittances in the first nine months of this year reached $2.8 billion, equal to nearly 81.5 percent of all of 2011.

According to data from the State Committee for Overseas Vietnamese Affairs, in the first half of the year, inward remittances sent to Vietnam reached more than $6.3 billion, equaling 70 percent compared to 2011.

Earlier, according to figures from the first six months of 2012, the inbound remittance volume sent to the southern economic hub reached $1.9 billion.

Representative of Sacomrex Remittance Co, a subsidiary of Saigon Thuong Tin Commercial Joint Stock Bank (Sacombank), said that as of the end of August, the volume of inbound remittances sent to Vietnam via their company had reached $1.2 billion, rising 20 percent year-on-year, though this period was not the peak time of remittances.

The company’s major remittance markets are still the US and Australia and foreign markets with a high rate of Vietnamese laborers with relatively attractive salaries, such as Japan and South Korea.

Trinh Hoai Nam, deputy director of EAB Remittances Co under Dong A Commercial Joint Stock Bank, said that the total remittance volume sent to Vietnam via the company in the first eight months of this year exceeded $1 billion.

On the other hand, the amount of inbound remittances are thinning, from a popular rate of $600-700 each previously to $300-500 recently, Nam said.

But the absolute number of inbound remittances sent via the firm is still a surprise, as many foreign economies are facing long-term difficulties.

According to remittance companies, money transferred to Vietnam recently mainly flowed into rural and remote areas, from which a huge volume of local workers have been sent to work abroad recently.

Previously, inward remittances were mainly channeled into family with relatives living abroad. Currently, many overseas Vietnamese are also sending money to build houses or invest locally.

Nam forecasted that the company’s inward remittances volume sent to Vietnam this year may reach $1.4-1.5 billion.

In addition, according to remittances companies, the increase of inbound remittances is also partially thanks to the high depositing interest rate of the dong, as many remittance recipients have converted foreign currencies, mostly US dollars, into dong to create savings and enjoy interest rate differences.

“In comparison with last year, the dong deposit interest rate decreased but the forex rate was stable. Therefore, the difference in interest rates was still attractive,” the director of a remittance company said.

Snap service is also a plus, as the time needed to transfer money from the US to Vietnam is now just a few seconds. Smooth connections have speeded up a process that needed many intermediaries in the past, said Pham Thuy Nga, head of the banking product and policy department under Vietcombank.

Many experts have forecast that the inward remittances sent to Vietnam this year may reach $10-11 billion, rising 30 percent year-on-year.

[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by oldmcdonald

bump. any takers?
cheers

I'm not sure if you will get a response.

It's just like pasting a full essay here for bros to translate. There's a professional translation fee chargeable for jobs like this

[SekLo]

Right.. Guess bros here will be more willing yo translate if a fee is offered.

[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by SekLo

Right.. Guess bros here will be more willing yo translate if a fee is offered.

I dont think anyone here is capable of providing a professional translation.

My point here is that one should not treat this thread as a free translation service.

[jackbl]

Rural girls marry foreign men for filial duty
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VietNamNet Bridge - At the age 23, Phuc married a Chinese man as the way to show gratitude to her parents. The Can Tho girl was unexpected to fall into painful days in a foreign land.

It is a “fashion” for girls in the Mekong Delta to fulfill their filial duty by marrying foreign men to have money to send back home to their parents.

However, the irony of fate is pushing many girls into the hell of prostitution or violence of their abusive husbands.

To rescue these women, their families need to have hundreds of millions dong (tens of thousands of USD) to ransom. Where's the money in this poor countryside?

A victim of this “fashion” is Ms. Nguyen Thi Ngoc Dung, 57, in Thoi Binh Ward, Ninh Kieu District, Can Tho City. Dung married her grand-daughter Nguyen Thi Diem Phuc, 23, to a Chinese man.


A typical victim

When she was 3 years old, Phuc’s parents divorced. The heartless mother sent her little daughter to her mother to marry another man.

In the narrow house, Dung sits lonely, thinking about the bitter childhood of her grandchild, who had been living in the extreme, the absence of parental love until she got married.

Despite having two children, the mother went away from Phuc and her sister. Every morning, Phuc woke up and helped her grandmother to pick vegetables, wash dishes, etc. Phuc and her sister grew up in the arms of their grandparents.

She finished school at the age of 13, to begin earning her living.

"She got up early every morning to join me to clean, blow the fire, cook, pick vegetables, and do all sorts of things. She grew up and I wanted to find a good man for her so she could have a happy life. Who would have thought ... she married a Chinese man and fell into hell," Dung lamented.

One day, Dung and her grandchild went to a Buddhist temple, where they saw a matchmaker who told them about perspective when marrying a foreign man. The matchmaker said that if Phuc gets married with a foreign man, she will be happy, wealthy, and her life will change.

"Getting married for one year, you will have money to build a new house for your grandmother," the matchmaker told Phuc.

Phuc agreed to marry a Chinese man to have money to fulfill her filial duty. The marriage took place very quickly.

The matchmaker introduced Dung and Phuc to Ms. Tu, in Cao Lanh town, Dong Thap province, whose two daughters got married with foreign men and recently sent money to their mother to build a new house.

Also in Dong Thap, Dung and Phuc met a famous matchmaker, named Ms. Xai Mai, over 60.

Mai took four Chinese men to see Phuc and one of them agreed to marry Phuc and to go to Saigon to organize the wedding.

In August 2011, Phuc was married to Dong Ji Wo, 32, from Liaoning, China. Before the wedding, Dong Ji Wo bowed and promised to Ms. Dung to "support Phuc for the whole life.” He also said that he has a car and factory at his hometown.

A big wedding took place in a hotel in HCM City. Two days later, Phuc left Vietnam to China with her husband. However, her dream collapsed. Soon after, Dong Ji Wo revealed himself as an abusive and cruel husband.

Late tears

Phuc called home to tell her grandmother in tears: "I was cheated by Dong Ji Wo. He stripped all jewelry and money from me. I am beaten very often and locked in a room."

Dung stood dumbfounded when she heard bad news. Then she decided to go to Ho Chi Minh City to meet Xai Mai to reclaim her grandchild.

This woman promised to take Phuc back to Can Tho but she did not realize her pledge.

For many months, Ms. Dung went to many state agencies in Can Tho and HCM City to call for help, but she got very negative signals.

Phuc was brutally harassed by her husband's family. The woman attempted to make an escape many time but she failed because she is alone in there and she cannot speak Chinese.

Phuc’s mother, Tran Thi Diem Thuy, held the wedding photo of her daughter, said: "I now regret that I left her at the age of three. I was assured when she lived with my mother. Now she is being abused, I implore competent agencies to rescue my daughter."

It is the late regret of a mother. However, is it too late for those who are looking to change their life by marrying foreign men?

Quoc Huy
To be continued…

[vietnam80]

haiz....they have in their mind that marrying to foreigners will give them a better life, but in reality, how many of them are really happy?

[jackbl]

Bride runs away at midnight because of 'sexual violence'
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VietNamNet Bridge - The family was happy to tear when their daughter had a foreign husband. However, on her first night, the bride was harassed by her Chinese husband.

Fleeing in Can Tho

Living in the Mekong Delta, Ms. To Thi Thuan’s family, residing in Thoi Phong village, Co Do district, Can Tho City, does not have an inch of land. The family had to live on the land of a commune office.

This poor family has up to six daughters. While the family was stuck, matchmakers appeared and the family nodded consent for marrying their oldest daughter – named Hien – to a Chinese man.

As of now, the family still can not read the vernacular name of Hien’s Chinese husband. They only know that he is 16-year-old older than their daughter, born in Fujian (China), working in a company in Shanghai. This man’s Vietnamese name is Xuan Hai.

In early February 2012, Hien’s wedding was held after several days she knew her future husband. The wedding was held at home. The matchmaker gave the family a total of VND10 million ($500) and the groom gave his parent-in-law VND2 million ($100). In addition, the groom also presented his bride a gold necklace and gold earrings.

After the wedding, the new couple went to Can Tho city to spend their first night in a hotel. At the hotel room, Xuan Hai told his wife to take off jewelry to take a shower.

Until now, Hien could not forget her husband’s insanity and his sexual violence. “At that time, I just thought that I could be able to live with that violent husband," Hien said.

The woman rescued herself in the wedding night.

At around 10pm, she told her husband that she would like to go out to buy some personal items. This was the perfect opportunity for her to escape. She asked for refuge in a restaurant where was hired before.

The next day, the matchmaker informed Hien’s mother, Ms. Nhuan, that her daughter had fled. The family was dumbfounded. Nhuan got a stroke and the entire money (VND10 million) they had from “selling” their daughter was spent.

Nhuan sought help from state agencies to search her missing daughter. Finally, Hien, who got married for fulfilling her filial duty called her parents to tell them that she was still safe.

However, the matchmaker insisted to take back VND15 million ($750), the cost of the wedding.

The day Hien called home, the mother was so happy. But being afraid that her daughter was seized by the matchmaker, she asked the local Women's Union for protecting her child.



Unsuccessful escapes in foreign land

Not only Hien but many other Mekong Delta girls marry foreigners to show gratitude to their parents.

Bride Nguyen Thi Diem Phuc, 23, Can Tho City, who was mentioned in the previous story, is living in the days of pain, humiliation with her husband - Dong Ji Wo - in China.

Phuc’s phone calls made her family to feel like they lose off pieces of intestine. Phuc is being harassed each day in foreign land.

Phuc's grandmother said that she just dealt the phone number of her family and then hung up to wait for her family to call back. Her husband confiscated her personal papers and did not allow her to call home.

The family of Phuc’s husband is located on a hill and they even do not have a toilet. The food is not a good match. “As they cannot understand each other, my grandchild is beaten very often,” the grandmother said.

Nearly two months ago, also at midnight, Phuc escaped from her husband’s home. She walked alone for more than three hours and was arrested by Chinese police in the morning and put in jail because she did not her personal documents.

Being detained by police and because of the language barrier, Phuc could not save herself.

Phuc’s grandmother recalled that her niece cried on the phone and said: "At that time I was afraid to be jailed. I did not know anyone to call, so I had to call my husband."

Phuc’s husband took her home and continued beating his wife.

The husband and his family locked Phuc in the piggery and lighted fire around to make her faint. Then, his parents poured water on their daughter-in-law to bring Phuc to her sense.

They were still angry because the Vietnamese bride ran away; both Dong Ji Wo and his parents beat Phuc again with sticks. Each time she called home, Phuc told her family to save her.

Among brides who are asking for help in foreign countries, because of domestic violence, there is one woman who saved herself after more than one month in the foreign land.

Quoc Huy
To be continued…

[V|ernar]

Originally Posted by oldmcdonald

Not really, she stopped using viet characters in her messages to save money so a lot of it has been guesswork.

This is what I understand:
"Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so".
I don't know anyone, the police hosts many raids (?!?!) I have not bought airline tickets. I'm very sad because I promised to help my mother which I have not done so I'm not sure what I will do when I return.

"Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum".
I (dang?!?!) ve (ticket) vietnam (she bought tickets to vietnam??). My grandmother is in risk. (She died??) I lost my Vietnamese Sim card. In vietnam, I will buy another sim, to sms you and will keep in touch with you. If you don't understand this SMS, you can ask a friend to translate.

Not sure how different my understanding is to what she really said, so hope you bros can help


If only I knew what you know

toi dang ve vietnam = i am going back vietnam .. the rest is almost correct .

nothing amazing , the usual story .

[jackbl]

Tricks to turn Mekong Delta girls into overseas prostitutes
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VietNamNet Bridge - By different tricks, swindlers lure many girls in southwestern provinces to go abroad to get married in the form of travel. Many girls have been sold to pimps.

Then, while the girls are abroad, at home, the investigating agencies have received many petitions to call for help from their relatives.

Married to become... prostitutes

Marrying foreigners has become very popular for girls in the Mekong Delta. Most of them consider this as the way to have an easy life.

In his petition, Mr. PVT, in Binh Thuy district, Can Tho City, wrote: "In early 2012, through a broker, my daughter named Pham Thuy Hang was married to a Chinese man - named Chen Wei Dong. She married that foreign man for her filial duty."

The wedding was held at the Vinh Ky restaurant in Can Tho City. Thuy Hang’s husband is at the same age with her father.

In the first meeting with his parent-in-law, the Chinese man promised to dedicatedly, thoughtful take care of his wife and to be an intimate husband.

The bride’s family trusted in the Chinese man’s promises. They did not know that he was a swindler.

When "the couple" just passed through the border, the "bridegroom" Chen Wei Dong immediately sold his “wife” to a pimp.

"Then, this pimp intended to sell my daughter to another man as his wife. But my family has lost contact with my daughter for a few months. We have tried many ways but still could not save my daughter," Mr. T. wrote.

In another case, Mr. Nguyen MT, in Ninh Kieu District, Can Tho city, accused a Vietnamese woman named Mai and her Chinese husband of cheating his sister, Ms. Nguyen T.A.D, 20. These people also used the same trick: introducing the woman to marry with a foreign man, then selling her to a pimp.

Where's the ransom?

After quick weddings, when they know that they are cheated in foreign land, Vietnamese brides have to pay huge ransoms to be repatriated.

Recently, the Can Tho Police Agency received denunciations of Mr. Nguyen Hien Sang. According to Sang, in April 2012, his girlfriend named Thach T, 29, 24, in Chau Thanh A District, Hau Giang province, was taken to China by a matchmaker and could not find a way back.

Sang said: "The matchmaker told me to pay VND80 million ($4,000) for T to return home. But we cannot afford to pay the ransom."

Back to the case of bride Pham Thuy Hang, someone asked Mr. T. on the phone to pay ransom of VND60 million ($3,000).

"When my family contacted with the pimp, they impudently asked my family to pay VND60 million to release my daughter. My family is in pain and does not know when we will meet our daughter again. Meanwhile, the criminals are still out there...," quoted from Mr. T’s petition.

Similarly, Mr Nguyen M.T, the elder brother of a bride named D went to China to rescue his sister. There, the pimp claimed up to VND170 million ($8,000) of ransom.

Statistics in Tan Hung Ward, Thot Not District, Can Tho City, only in recent months, at least seven girls registered to marry Chinese men.

The latest trick of brokers is taking Chinese men to the bride's home. Just the local authorities confirm that the girl is still single; the marriage procedures will be implemented immediately.

Giving only VND30 million ($1,500) to the bride’s family and brokers, the foreign groom can "own" a young bride.

Despite waiting tragedies and pitfalls, many girls in the Mekong Delta still desire to get married to foreign men.

Quoc Huy

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by V|ernar

toi dang ve vietnam = i am going back vietnam .. the rest is almost correct .

nothing amazing , the usual story .

when can u compile a book of "usual story" to us? i wan to buy and get your signature pls.

LOL! seriously i also bumped into this "ba ngoai mat roi" story twice in merely 4-5 months time?

so far with my limited exposure i remember bumped into these stories:
1. "e co benh SIDA"(in earlier my post)
2. "ban sua iphone cho e iphone" (wow your "friend" so good???)
3. "ban trai e moi thang cho e 3nghin do!" (and drive a convertible super car with her finger pointing to a ferrari weaving by BUT hv to work at LX3)
4. "mat dien thoai" (super common and happened at unbelievable high frequency, faster than u change underwear"
5. "em trai dung xe" (and anh trai, anh hai all also bang moto in consecutive weeks etc)
6. "e lam cac toc cho con gai thoi" (really? no comment...)
7. "ban trai e la nguoi CANADA ???" (and super rich and buy me many houses WOW!!!)
8. "e lam o cong ty TAIWAN?!" (which explains why i can speak good chinese and taiwanese!)
9. "e co di dai hoc" (her dai hoc is actually a small classroom lectured by a tom dick harry in vn who think he can speak accurate english, much better than sillyporean, and perhaps chinese)
9. "toi hom qua e xin roi nen tat dt" (i have a good reflex system that automatically turn off my phone when im drunk without me thinking)
10. "ban trai cu cua e la ong chu cua PHAM KAM HONG!" (Really? do u know my ex-gf is Britney Spears?!)

can add on to the list if u like

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

when can u compile a book of "usual story" to us? i wan to buy and get your signature pls.

LOL! seriously i also bumped into this "ba ngoai mat roi" story twice in merely 4-5 months time?

so far with my limited exposure i remember bumped into these stories:
1. "e co benh SIDA"(in earlier my post)
2. "ban sua iphone cho e iphone" (wow your "friend" so good???)
3. "ban trai e moi thang cho e 3nghin do!" (and drive a convertible super car with her finger pointing to a ferrari weaving by BUT hv to work at LX3)
4. "mat dien thoai" (super common and happened at unbelievable high frequency, faster than u change underwear"
5. "em trai dung xe" (and anh trai, anh hai all also bang moto in consecutive weeks etc)
6. "e lam cac toc cho con gai thoi" (really? no comment...)
7. "ban trai e la nguoi CANADA ???" (and super rich and buy me many houses WOW!!!)
8. "e lam o cong ty TAIWAN?!" (which explains why i can speak good chinese and taiwanese!)
9. "e co di dai hoc" (her dai hoc is actually a small classroom lectured by a tom dick harry in vn who think he can speak accurate english, much better than sillyporean, and perhaps chinese)
9. "toi hom qua e xin roi nen tat dt" (i have a good reflex system that automatically turn off my phone when im drunk without me thinking)
10. "ban trai cu cua e la ong chu cua PHAM KAM HONG!" (Really? do u know my ex-gf is Britney Spears?!)

can add on to the list if u like

Wa, u also can write a book liao. Just get a few more n compile them together.

[desa]

How do you know a viet gal is true to you, if she know many guys per day