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[pirambis]

Originally Posted by beck7777

http://thekop.liverpoolfc.tv/_Urugua...98/173471.html

If the FA still gonna be stubborn and ignorant over Suarez, they are gonna make alot of enemies!!

And it has also made me proud that we have a player donning our famous red whom is so well-liked and supported back in his own country....

. very very funny to see all the fools comments for past few days. good time pass..

[ProfessorOokami]

Originally Posted by beck7777

http://thekop.liverpoolfc.tv/_Urugua...98/173471.html

If the FA still gonna be stubborn and ignorant over Suarez, they are gonna make alot of enemies!!

And it has also made me proud that we have a player donning our famous red whom is so well-liked and supported back in his own country....

欲加之罪，何患无辞

[omnia]

bad day at the office, poor game at DW...midfield n attack pretty weak n spineless...Adam had an awful game n i'm not just talking abt the missed pen...so too Downing another poor performance by him...dont know why kenny brought on Carroll wif only 4 mins to play...sld hv given the lad a proper run out for say 30 mins...it is clear that if this poor clinical finishing attack issue is not resolved in the next few matches than that critical top 4 position shall remain as elusive as ever...the reds badly need Stevie G in his great aggressive attack form fit n ready to play now...

saying that quite happy to c spurs n chelsea drop pts...hope to c loads of goals on boxing day n 3 easy pts for the reds...

YNWA

[omnia]

Tell us more about Suarez's ban and stifle speculation

Rohit Brijnath
The Straits Times
Publication Date : 22-12-2011



Liverpool's Luiz Suarez has been banned for eight matches, but this triumph against racism is coloured by frustration. Especially if you wear red. One might say this is not quite a clear-cut case in black and white. It is sentence delivered but not yet explained with adequate clarity, it is apparent justice but so far with unsatisfactory detail.

The player sanctioned for the ugly, stomping tackle can be reviewed on video. His act is there before us. The racist slur is trickier, it is not clearly heard always, it is one man's word against the next, it requires the text of a judgment to convince us. It has not come yet and leads both rational man and conspiracy theorist into suggesting hidden agendas.

Already, there is quaint insinuation that this is all linked to Sepp Blatter, the Fifa chief who suggested racism on a field should be settled with a handshake.

The Swiss official's comments were met with a less wider derision than they warranted. Only the English were openly appalled by this timidity about racism.

So if the eight-match ban was just England bravely flexing its anti-discriminatory muscle, then they should be celebrated. Except not all are convinced. One suggestion is that the decision is intended more as a mocking of Blatter, using Suarez as a convenient weapon to make a larger and sterner point. As if to say: see, we are truly intolerant of intolerance.

It is innuendo and it can only be punctured by rapidly revealing the three-man commission's findings. What really happened? We deserve to know.

Till then Liverpool will stay incensed. In a statement, the club stated: "We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone". No one else heard their conversation in the goal-mouth, they say.

Does that presume he never said it? Evra told television he was abused more than 10 times; Suarez apparently used the word "negro" once. But, of course, the number does not matter, it is intent.

Either way, the commission believed the Frenchman. Why? We'd like to know.

Reputation often becomes an issue in an accusation, but neither man qualifies for sainthood here. A Football Association hearing in 2008, regarding Evra's fracas with a groundsman, reportedly found his evidence "exaggerated and unreliable".

Furthermore, his own alleged comment during the Suarez match to the referee - "You're only booking me because I'm black" - is intriguing: either he is an over-sensitive soul or subtly intimidating a referee by suggesting a latent prejudice.

This is a fine weapon for Liverpool, till we turn to Suarez and his barbed-wire halo. The Uruguayan has bitten a player, given the crowd the finger, known to dive and had a bust-up with an Ajax colleague.

Did this matter? We wish to know.

To the dubious history of the players, we must add a confusing geography. Suarez hails from Uruguay, where it has been pointed out that its iconic captain at the 1950 World Cup was Obdulio Jacinto Muinos Varela, nicknamed "El Negro Jefe" or the The Black Chief. Perhaps for Suarez, the word "negro", which he called Evra, is not a slur. Wherein we fall into a bewildering world of language, culture, intent, translation.

But, as pundits say, perhaps Suarez - having travelled to play for Ajax - should know words have a different resonance outside his nation. In 2008, for instance, Indian cricketer Harbhajan Singh was accused of calling Australian Andrew Symonds - partly of West Indian descent - a "monkey", to which the occasional ill-advised blogger suggested "monkey" was not a pejorative in India. Irrespective of whether Singh said the word, as an argument it isn't persuasive.

Evidently, the Suarez panel did not buy the semantic argument, for the FA's statement reads, "the insulting words used by Mr Suarez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour". But it's not enough. It's the detail we want to know.

Liverpool have also used the heritage defence, stating "Luis himself is of a mixed-race family background as his grandfather was black". But can we presume this makes him above suspicion? Indeed, even if he is not a racist - and Evra apparently stated Suarez is not - he may be, like Steve Williams was with Tiger Woods in the case of the "black ****hole", guilty of the racial slur.

Was this part of their deliberations? We need to know.

It is an ugly time. Petitions will be written, appeals filed. The divide between clubs is sharp and loyalty is obscuring logic. Suarez constantly sullies skill with stupidity and his strong ban will have even greater resonance if a wise panel breaks down his sins. Publish the findings soon, fellows. State the logic. Stifle the speculation. Football will be better for it.

[omnia]

Backed by Liverpool squad, Suarez to appeal ban
Associated Press

London: The lawyer for Luis Suarez announced plans on Wednesday to appeal against the striker's eight-game ban for racially insulting Manchester United's Patrice Evra, while his Liverpool teammates publicly backed their teammates in a statement.

Alejandro Balbi, who is Suarez's lawyer and agent, told reporters in Uruguay about the plans to appeal just as the forward was getting ready to play in Liverpool's 0-0 draw at Wigan in the Premier League.

The English Football Association also fined Suarez 40,000 Pounds, but the Uruguay forward can continue playing until the appeal process reaches its conclusion.


"The sanction has two items, the games suspension and the monetary. It will be a total appeal," Alejandro said.

"The counts of racism that were made against him are not true," Balbi added. "He firmly believes that this harsh sanction can be overturned."

He added that Suarez "is very affected" by the English Football Association's verdict, but is also "calm because of the massive support of the club, the coach, his teammates and his captain."

Before Wednesday's match against Wigan, Liverpool's players and manager Kenny Dalglish appeared at the ground wearing white T-shirts featuring Suarez's picture. They also released a statement expressing their anger at the FA's punishment.

"Luis Suarez is our teammate and our friend and as a group of players we are shocked and angered that he has been found guilty by the FA," Liverpool's squad said in a joint statement. "We totally support Luis and we want the world to know that. We know he is not racist ... we have lived, trained and played with Luis for almost 12 months and we don't recognize the way he has been portrayed."

The FA, though, accepted Evra's allegation that Suarez had directed a racial insult at him during United's Premier League match at Liverpool on October 15. If the appeal is rejected, the FA could increase the suspension.

"We will continue to support Luis through this difficult period, and as a popular and respected friend of all his teammates, he will not walk alone," the Liverpool squad said, referencing the club's anthem.

Balbi highlighted that the only evidence taken into account by the FA disciplinary panel was "the word of Evra," a fact that Liverpool also underlined Tuesday in defence of the player.

Suarez has also received support from his Uruguay teammates.

"I can't believe it. It's a big error that is being committed," Uruguay captain Diego Lugano said. "It's obvious that England have a problem with racism that they are trying to eradicate - and that's fine - but this decision does not have solid arguments. Luis is a victim. I don't understand how a player like Evra can do this."

"We all know the kind of person Luis is and the values he has. We are all very hurt. When one of our teammates is suffering, we all suffer. The only thing left is to support him and be with him."

Another Uruguay teammate, Napoli's Walter Gargano, described the situation as a "barbaric fiasco."

"Now we've got to get behind Luis more than ever," he told Uruguay radio station 1010 AM.

[Lone_Wolf]

Originally Posted by omnia

Was this part of their deliberations? We need to know.

I smell a conspiracy here. The fatcats sitting on the FA board are buddies of SAF. The Chairman of the PFA Gordon Taylor used to be a winger for Man U until injury curtailed his career prematurely. The victim is a Man U player.

WTF... is Man U so scared of Liverpool's best player that they have to resort to this?

[mr_missile]

Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf

I smell a conspiracy here. The fatcats sitting on the FA board are buddies of SAF. The Chairman of the PFA Gordon Taylor used to be a winger for Man U until injury curtailed his career prematurely. The victim is a Man U player.

WTF... is Man U so scared of Liverpool's best player that they have to resort to this?

hope u reds fans don't mind my posting here.

just to clarify the above post by Lone_Wolf. this guy has never played for united. so, enough said.

the following extracted from wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Taylor_(footballer)

Gordon Taylor (footballer)
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Gordon Taylor Personal information
Full name Gordon Alexander Taylor[1]
Date of birth 28 December 1944 (1944-12-28) (age 66)
Place of birth Ashton-under-Lyne, England
Playing position Winger
Youth career
1959–1960 Curzon Ashton
1960–1962 Bolton Wanderers
Senior career*
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
1962–1970 Bolton Wanderers 258 (41)
1970–1976 Birmingham City 166 (9)
1976–1978 Blackburn Rovers 64 (3)
1977 → Vancouver Whitecaps (loan) 16 (1)
1978–1980 Bury 60 (2)
* Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only.
† Appearances (Goals).

Gordon Alexander Taylor OBE (born 28 December 1944) is an English former professional footballer who played as a winger. He became chief executive of the English footballers' trades union, the Professional Footballers Association. He is reputed to be the highest paid union official in the world.[2]

Taylor was born in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire. He played over 250 games for Bolton Wanderers and scored more than 50 goals before being transferred to Birmingham City in 1970. He joined Blackburn Rovers in 1976 and spent the 1977 close season playing in the North American Soccer League for the Vancouver Whitecaps. He returned to play for Blackburn and finally Bury before retiring in 1980 to work full-time for the PFA.[1][3]

Taylor has a degree in economics and is a member of FIFA's football committee.[2] He is an alumnus of Manchester Metropolitan University.[4]

He was appointed Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in the 2008 New Year Honours.[5]

His mobile phone messages were allegedly hacked by a private investigator employed by the News of the World newspaper. The Guardian reported that News International (the owner of News of the World) paid Taylor ₤700,000 ($1.1 million) in legal costs and damages in exchange for a confidentiality agreement barring him from speaking about the case.[6]

[Regaine]

Liverpool Vs Blackburn


Hope our lads can get all 3 points tomorrow.


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/preview...318303?cc=4716

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/lates...erfect-present

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/lates...s-half-century

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articl...return-2577321

Prediction


Liverpool 2 Blackburn 0


Time for AC to prove his worth .


Merry Christmas to all Liverpool fans and supporters.

[The Milk Man]

Originally Posted by Regaine

Liverpool Vs Blackburn

Hope our lads can get all 3 points tomorrow.

Prediction

Liverpool 2 Blackburn 0

Time for AC to prove his worth .

Merry Christmas to all Liverpool fans and supporters.

Blackburn is without their 1st choice goalie Paul Robinson and 4 1st team defenders....... if Liverpool cannot even score against a makeshift Blackburn defence in tomorrow's game..... then really no hope for them liao.

I predict tomorrow's score :-

Liverpool 5 Blackburn 0

[Regaine]

Originally Posted by The Milk Man

Blackburn is without their 1st choice goalie Paul Robinson and 4 1st team defenders....... if Liverpool cannot even score against a makeshift Blackburn defence in tomorrow's game..... then really no hope for them liao.

I predict tomorrow's score :-

Liverpool 5 Blackburn 0

It would be nice to see this scoreline as a belated Xmas gift .

[lugi]

My Prediction:

Liverpool 6 Blackburn 0

[SH149]

Originally Posted by lugi

My Prediction:

Liverpool 6 Blackburn 0

Haha really hope to see that but we had a habit of not able to thrash the weaker team so my prediction will be 3-0

[Lone_Wolf]

Originally Posted by mr_missile

.... just to clarify the above post by Lone_Wolf. this guy has never played for united. so, enough said.

Sorry my mistake. I got him mixed up with Steve Coppell

YNWA

Liverpool 4 Blackburn 0

[javcock]

Liverpool 3 Blackburn 0

[Ninja_Assassin]

Liverpool 4 Blackburn 1