Batam Info Thread

[iicycold]

Originally Posted by nono1973

There is a difference between already knowing how much to pay and yet still be happy and willing to pay more OVER without knowing how much to pay and yet be paying more.

Well said on tis one & i couldn't hav say it better.

Originally Posted by nono1973

In other word,I am seeking "meat" among the "poison",hehehe....
(your poison can become meat to me and the meat of yours can also be poisonous to me)

If i spend many time more than wat a normal regular monger wld hav spend in btm,i'm kind of sure there wn't be much poison,mostly meat.Tis is not a matter of hw much 1 is able to earn nor the question on affordability anymore.

Like u say b4,$1 for an apple versus $10 for the same apple.Crates of $10 apples is definitely abundant & I don't see $1 apple in crates. IMO,it's the mentality on stupidity vs being intelligent.

I'm beginning to see smthg mis-leading nw.
(surely they are not from ur given info)

[iicycold]

Originally Posted by deca

Stats as appended below:
Joint: New Berry
Cewek: Dian
Age: 25
Cost: 1 mil rupiah
GFE: 6 (would've been more if not for the morning episode)
Boobs: B+
RTF: Not for me.

I dn't knw abt u guys,but i feel she at least fullfilled her duty of 3 bonks thou the last shot was far below expectation. Too bad 4 her,if she only persist 15 more mins of gd service,she wld have won an extra 100k,a future return customer & many others who read yr FR.

Originally Posted by ssssssss

So any bro can advise which KTV still having most cewek? Used to go alisan, billiard ctr, I hotel KTV.

Which KTV needs the most cewek,the amt of ceweks will then be there. Ceweks tends 2 move among other KTV a lot (most ktv has another sister ktv or partner ktv in btm). Cewek who has no business in btm ktv quite poor thing 1 if they got no seating customer for the night.

Bro,u say u used to go Alishan,Billiard Ctr & i Hotel ktv,any FR to share?

[fishingman]

bro gila pm me to share more fotos of the Duo Serigala cewek pamela. i say good thing mus share share here 4 all to see.

so post the foto nono haven put up here 4 share pursepose.

http://sbf.today/showpost.ph...ostcount=31026

i knw in btm walk in any joint also can find tis kind cewek with all naturel big big neh neh kind of sizing. dn't pm me where find hor,go read nono guide or u can read his posts.

Hope all like it bcs i like it

foto credit to bro gila & thk bro gila

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Yes, ticket is a ref for him and yes, he is relying on his memories...which unfortunately, is 20+ yrs ago. The hotel we went to was his 2nd trip and he thought there were many entertainments.....which turn out not so....but overall, still managed to hve fun.

Hehehehe...but the ferry ticket from your sifu look so new. At 1st sight i thought you guys has already bought the ferry tickets and landing yourself at Batam center which turns out later to be a used ticket. Got to know later there's a SG50 promo at sindo ferry at quite a fairly good price.

Mind if i ask,when you guys bought your ferry tickets,are both of your tickets purchased at the same price? Or your sifu got a better price and you pay a little higher price?

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Anyway, it's a good learning experience for me too. This is sifu's final trip as he may not be able to make it the next round as he is getting weaker and walking is getting more difficult for him.

Batam is just about 45mins to 1 hr away from Sillypore,hehehe...anyone including my own parents would have no problem going there and coming back regardless of age. All one need is a willing heart and some behavioral control. And that kind of control is needed for all ages when travelling to any countries in the world.

Sincerely hope your sifu can still go to Batam again...and again and again and again....

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Yes, he did have fun and drank more than usual and still steady....but he was not getting the ultimate fun...girls to hug and fuss over him.

You reminded me of the lup sup bar in Sillypore,hehehe...where there are lots of hugging and roaming during drinking,wondering if there are such in Batam tho. Hmm...i think i read in the past post in this thread there are. Havent venture to any bars in Batam yet....

Originally Posted by Intltuk

If compared to S'pore, it is cheap.....and from what the prices I've see in Permata Indah, Meximo and T2 Club.....the jugs are slightly cheaper...and with 2 free jugs, it is cheaper by 1/2.....only question in my mind is why 1st night only 1 jug free and 2nd night 2 jug free?

Interesting to know Permata Indah and Meximo Pub sells their beer at a slightly higher price. Good info there which can be use as comparison.

The 1st night in Alishan KTV,our bill were small.And there was no girls for seating in our room at all with mami telling us no more girls left. Probably the manager look us no up since we only ordered beer/coke...lol. Maybe becos we reached at about 1030pm plus? Possible too.

2nd night the bill is 3 times more and we order beer just for "decorative purpose" as my friends planned to try everything as much as possible (eg,bring in their own liquor to see how much they charge,booking etc) and my plan? To gather as much information as possible,eg Liquor pricing,tipping,cover charge etc etc. Not forgetting my friends also "bribe" the waiter aka tip him quite a bit. The only person we didnt tip is the Mummy on the 2nd night,hehehe...cos she didnt turn up after helping one of my friend w/o girls to get a sitting girl.

In all KTVs around the world,at most time Mummies and waiters are the key people to getting things done according to our wishes,hehehe...i bet the next time my friends go to Alishan again or any Batam KTVs,they will be more "intelligent" ?

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Btw, beer at Windsor court cost bet Rp28k to Rp 38k.....half the price of S'pore coffeeshops.......and 70 beer promoters vs average of 5 promoters in S'pore coffeeshops.

WHAT! 70 BEER PROMOTERS??!! Thats as many girls as a fair sized KTVs in Sillypore....and i dont suppose any of the 70 promoters are male,right? Hehehe....

Originally Posted by Intltuk

I don't know about Batam but if we book a girl the whole night, no tip is given since we've paid the booking(fyi, booking whole night to sit in S'pore nightclub is approx $240)....some tips may be given...if the girl is outstanding in service and we wish to rtf. If I need to pay total of Rp 530k for sitting, I might as well book a girl overnight for Rp800k and she will accompany to KTV also. Make sense?

Yea,i know about how the Sillypore KTV works on sitting girls that dont butterfly to other room/s except just to keep their clients who pay for the hourly-booking accompany in the KTV room.The charges are base on per hour of company by the girls and can easily reach a few hundred Sin dollar in just one night (higher-end KTV in sillypore),hehehe...

Most of us already have an overnight booking girl booked in Batam before we hit the KTV,except one.And we manage to get one for him on the 2nd KTV night. But then,most KTV girls in Batam definitely look better than booking joint girls when they were being showcased in our room as there were no biggest ,fattest, ugliest in KTV to compare with booking joint.But comparing overnight bookable SYTs in KTV and the SYTs in overnight booking joint,it will be almost the same (other than most in KTV speaks some level of English).

There are overnight booking girls in KTVs too,except if one wish to get a overnight booking from KTV,they usually get them rather late and late here means once after the sun set whereby one is able get overnight booking girls from overnight booking joints as early as early an early afternoon. Number of bonks also depend on chemistry for KTV girls too (which i hear is usually around 2,sometimes 3 depending on tipping,stamina and chemistry).

If one plans to take overnight booking girls from KTV,the seating charge of 280k are usually waived. Thats why the overnight booking fee in Batam KTVs usually cost around 1.3 million rupiah to 1.6 million rupiah today. Seating tips of 250k will then varies from person to person as many other factors may come to play,eg girl's playability,level of enjoyment etc. Not forgetting there's also overnight booking tips the next morning when the overnight KTV girls leave.

So if one wish to book a KTV girl for overnight,you will need to add up all the upcoming "hidden" cost together which will be another field worth studying on,hehehe...

Thats as much info i gathered on Batam KTV billing so far.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

I believe the bros who tag along should appreciate ur effort and time in `guiding' them as it's more of a learning trip for them; if they enjoyed the trip, great, if no, at least the trip at least gives them the experience of what batam is all about and they should be grateful for it as u're not being paid to bring them around.

So far most if not all i believe do appreciate my effort. But most fail to understand that it is a learning trip and i am there only to guide them on the basics and on-site learning while my guides in this forum are theoretical. Before they go on-site,they will need to read to have some basic understanding 1st. I cant possibility be reading my guides to them during a field trip,right?

Once they are equipped with all the basics,they should not have a problem to reach and navigate batam safely on their own in future. Thats one of my primary objective.

Originally Posted by Intltuk

Sacrifice as in need to compromise when in group rather than a free and easy to do what u want when travelling alone...but personally, I like travelling with like minded bros who are easy going....it's more fun.

Exactly my sentiment here. Even as a learning trip,i still hope to bring people with similar frequency and not too far away age gap along,so they dont feel out of place during a discussion and sharing time. Imagine i bring along an early 20s bro and a nearly 60 bro in a trip,i dont even need to think twice to know they are unlikely to share similar frequency.

There's one reason why no KTVs/PUBs for me in any learning group trips,hehehe...drinking too much can create a drama which i see in many entertainment places in Sillypore. That part,i always stay out of it when in group and even stated in my Terms and Conditions for those who wish to join me.

3 more days to July,hehehe....

[MiG27]

Im in batam formosa right now....leaving tmr.
Just a short summary, i tried indorasa, kings, n 2x keyzha.
Im addicted to those syts boob massage.
Things appears normal at nagoya hill area....even though ramadan.
I enjoyed my stay so far.
I find walking from formosa to dc mall area....not that tiring.
Actually quite straightforward.

Wifi is weak in formosa 2nd level room....this afternoon i switch to 3rd floor n it is better.

Will do a write up tmr once i reach back sg.
Now using tablet.

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by ssssssss

In Batam today for biz trip, know it's puasa month. So any bro can advise which KTV still having most cewek? Used to go alisan, billiard ctr, I hotel KTV.

If you would read just a couple of pages before asking...
I repeat: lots of girls, more than before.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by pay99

Bro Nono if I rights. The siting or booking fee is 50/25/25. The girl get 50 mamas an 25 the ktv get 25. Sometimes like this.

Thank you for this information. I was guessing before i read your post that it may be like overnight booking joint,divided directly by 3 and wasnt expecting a 50,25,25 share. The girl gets half of the 280k,and Mami and KTV gets the other half split by 2 seems fair as there are many other girls under them. Very interesting information.

Thanks for sharing.

Originally Posted by pay99

Also ktv what I know each room got a min spending amt. than you get the room free.also I think you you tip the mamas and $20. And ask her if you can bring you own bottle in. I think most of the time will can without the 400k charge.

The minimum spending part i know about it before entering Alishan,but the tipping of Mami part is quite unique. I wouldnt have knew if you didnt say it and it is worth a try if one day i were to go to any Batam KTV again. Like i say earlier,Mamis and waiters are usually the key people to having things done our way in most any other countries. And this seems to be yet another "key" worth the experimenting in all Batam KTVs if i am given a chance.

Good info shared. And thank you.

Originally Posted by pay99

bro i ask because i read from some where you over spent for this trip.that y i ask.i did not ask your other trip is because you state what you spent

Dont worry about it,the way i say it is to try to explain to you why i did not share the amount in my last summary as compare to the others. Its a different type of group trip,not a newbie group trip. So i didnt really monitor how much i spend as i didnt have to. There isnt even an itinerary for 2nd and 3rd night of the trip as mentioned,hehehe...

Anyway,i am hoping for the best in my coming July trip which i am expecting it to be better than the June trip. Wish me luck!

Cheers!

[pay99]

Anyway,i am hoping for the best in my coming July trip which i am expecting it to be better than the June trip. Wish me luck!

Cheers![/QUOTE]

if time allow hope to meet up with you in batam..will not be in your group.but if can will meet up for good food.n coffer

[MiG27]

Finally I'm back....

Here's the promise summary. It is not all bonking...in fact no bonk.
I just want to share my experience....something like a field trip report.
I m going into detail and I hope no offence...if you guys dun like the long winded....please skip my post. Im sure my report should benefit those newbies....old bird can just skip ba.

Day 1 (27 June)

Woke up early as like going for work.
Reach Harbour Front at 8.10am....straight to Sindo (ok...I have the NTUC card...so might as well make full use.) Realize no longer need the Arrival card....have to double confirm with the Sindo ppl.
Damn....9 am fully book....take the next at 10.20am. It is full ferry....all the seats occupied. Looks like many senior folks. SG50 package??

Reach Batam Centre. Go for KAHA counter. Ask for Formosa.
Chap quoted S$70!! I told him so expensive !!. I say I consider...then go use calculator to check how much rupiah is S$70...wow...really a lot. Then the chap call me and say $65....actually still too expensive....but took it for 2 nights.
He make call....told me no single bed deluxe....only twin bed deluxe...ok lah....I wanted to stay Formosa coz Bro Nono recommend...n I never stay there before.
I was figuring out how much rupiah to pay...then the chap told me can pay in SGD. Pass him SGD150...but he say no change....lucky I have SGD30 remain...so pay him in full.
Collect the hotel vouchers and went to Sindo to make return trip booking.

Cross over to Megamall.....deposit my bag at ATM centre (i took a pic here....but no time to post).....walk around n then have my lunch at BYZA.
Here's the booboo....I was thinking about my job n all the frustrating stuffs while having my lunch....when I finish...I just walk away!!
I went and collect my bag....and I was thinking of visitng the Matahari. I got a nagging feeling something is amiss...then I realise I didnt pay...faster rush back to BYZA.
I saw those BYZA ppl already pointing to my previous seat n thinking I ran away. I apologize to them n pay up accordingly. Haha....first time I make such a mistake in batam.

Went to Matahari and walk around...all selling T-shirts....price quite nice. Decided I will visit the one at Nagoya Hill Mall later.
Walk out and taxi ppl come...quoted 70k to Formosa....reject. Walk further down and settle for 50k.
The taxi chap ask many questions.....the I realise he is trying to promote himself as travel driver in batam. He spoke quite good english.....anyway, I took down his number.....but I had no intention to call him.

Reach Formosa....here is where I remember Bro Nono's tactic.....I exit first, then I dig out my wallet to pay him.
No issues. I bet in China this wont work coz the driver will make sure you sit infront if you are alone and will insist you pay before opening the door.
I was doing the check in...then suddenly the driver appear from my side....n remind me to call him.... I was shock as it was invading my privacy and I have to remind Bros here...sometimes it should be a good idea to alight at somewhere nearby n walk to the hotel.
Maybe tell the driver a nearby hotel (from your real hotel) then walk to the hotel. Is this a good idea??

Got a room at 2nd level.... the recep told me in chinese (think she is like the senior there) I can change the room to a single bed on Sunday after 12pm. Collect keycard n took the lift.
hmm....the corridor looks impressive....but I was disappointed when I reach the room. It was old....the vinyl tiles were squeaky....carpet abit dusty n musky.
Bed was ok though. The bathtub was....yellowish. Toilet bowl the inner side got a slight faeces stain. Washing basin the tap water flow cannot control at times.
I guess it is peak so....maybe no chance even if I ask for change. Make do with that....then I find the wifi crappy. Will lose connection. Must position myself near the door then will have a measely 0.5 bar.
Darn, sunday must ask for change. If you ask me....I can get a much much better quality room for S$50 in china.

Step out...first mission...find out where Goldbird is. Nope I have no intention of looking for gal....further more it is Ramadan and I should be late liao.
The reason being many Bros have difficulty locating this Goldbird.
Following the map provided in Bro Nono's post....located Goodway....and cross over the road. Frankly speaking the distance is not far from Formosa....I would say 10 mins....but the heat was terrible....
Turn in n saw Lai Lai hotel first. Walk towards it n decided to turn right....mistake nothing there. Make a U turn...n I saw Batam Star...here I was a bit lost.
Then I saw a MILF walking into a certain path...decided to follow her coz she might be from GoldBird....
5 minutes...I saw Goldbird! Wanted to go inside but I saw the opposite coffeshop got white cloth covering and a few paks sitting there...thinking it might be rude of me to go inside...I abandon the idea.
For those Bros who ask....once you see Lai Lai hotel...turn LEFT....should be able to see Batam Star....GoldBird is just directly behind the hotel. I did saw a New Orchid Massage 99 just before GoldBird, not sure whether it is the Orchid pick up joint.
Apologies, I didnt took any pic....the area was quite deserted...so I just want to move out once I accomplish my mission. Anyway the MILF didnt went into Goldbird but as I was returning to Formosa I saw her walking towards Goodway...haha.
anyway, must thank her.

After all the hoola and recce...I lost a bit of time....decided I will go Keyzha. I was tired and sweaty....I was lost also...actually I was a few streets away from the landmark Centre Point Mall....
Finally give up....took an ojek....settle deal for 20k (told him I go Utama)....wow...it was the first time I ride ojek...it was breezy n relaxing...haha. After all the twist n turn....finally reach Utama.....this is where I was TL...the ojek wanted 30k after passing him 20k....nabei....pass him another 10k.
Decided i will find out the correct way later following the map.

Walk to DC mall...n no issue finding Keyzha. Lucky some Bro told me abt the ladyboy recep...so I was not taken aback...haha.
She (or should be HE??!!) passed me the price list....exactly as posted by Bro Nono....took the O package. Sit for a while....coz she make a call to a chap.
The chap came n bring me up the stairs. Showed me a room. Inside a TV, a bed, a bathtub.
While waiting....I snap a few pics. (not sure whether nice to post here....do let me know)
5 mins.....hear footsteps from the stairs....the chap brought a nice MILF (actually maybe in her mid 20s)....in a nice red dress...she smile at me. not too bad...but I want to see another one. Based on experience in china....u reject first round, the okt will bring in a better one. further waiting...another 5 mins....the 2nd one was a SYT....big boobs....got good height...figure looks good.
ok settle for this one...the chap leaves the gal come in a lock the door.
Let the fun begins....

[Sadness873]

Hi bro nono , i noticed you wrote "earn back money" in your posts , what do you mean ? Casino ?

[gab23]

At formosa for 3d2n. Any nearby place for fun? Tried king massage in room, 200k for 2 hours. Massage was good but once flip to front golden question was asked, 1m for 2 hours n fj, btw the gal was 24. Nego was hard keep pushing for fj, cos I tell her I only wanted hj, in the end all in 2 hours plus fj at 600k.
Realised tat I keep spending money on taxi. From fomosa to nagoya hills, the road really not my kind. Very hard to cross.
Pai seh first time staying overnite. Most of time prefer jb or kl

[Yoshirux]

any bros heading to batam this weekend ?

[MiG27]

Originally Posted by gab23

At formosa for 3d2n. Any nearby place for fun? Tried king massage in room, 200k for 2 hours. Massage was good but once flip to front golden question was asked, 1m for 2 hours n fj, btw the gal was 24. Nego was hard keep pushing for fj, cos I tell her I only wanted hj, in the end all in 2 hours plus fj at 600k.
Realised tat I keep spending money on taxi. From fomosa to nagoya hills, the road really not my kind. Very hard to cross.
Pai seh first time staying overnite. Most of time prefer jb or kl

I tried the King Massage...both times in room service...both times send me MILFs....sianz.
One of them open big mouth want 1mil juta for bonk.

Wow...can I apply to be your taxi driver?
You mean from Formosa to Nagoya Hill Mall?
It is simply easy money....

Actually Batam traffic very easy to cross...you just signal your intention to cross...while you are crossing...the vehicles will slow down.
You must make the move to cross...the vehicles wont stop auto for you to cross.
Follow the locals, see the way they cross.

This is very unlike in SG....once you cross...the cars will auto speed up in an attempt to knock you down. Haha.

Still, keep your eyes open while crossing the road in batam.

Welcome to Batam!!

[Yoshirux]

Originally Posted by MiG27

I tried the King Massage...both times in room service...both times send me MILFs....sianz.
One of them open big mouth want 1mil juta for bonk.

Wow...can I apply to be your taxi driver?
You mean from Formosa to Nagoya Hill Mall?
It is simply easy money....

Actually Batam traffic very easy to cross...you just signal your intention to cross...while you are crossing...the vehicles will slow down.
You must make the move to cross...the vehicles wont stop auto for you to cross.
Follow the locals, see the way they cross.

This is very unlike in SG....once you cross...the cars will auto speed up in an attempt to knock you down. Haha.

Still, keep your eyes open while crossing the road in batam.

Welcome to Batam!!

Bro why not try joints ? 1mil enough to find an overnight already isnt it . hahah.

[MiG27]

Originally Posted by Yoshirux

Bro why not try joints ? 1mil enough to find an overnight already isnt it . hahah.

i know that...the MILF thought I first time visit Batam....
she reduced to 500k later, but still I didnt take.