Change of Time

[Joker74]

Dear Brothers...

I do not know whether starting this thread here is appropiate. Anyway, I would just like to voice out my personal opinion. No attack on any particular person.

To be frank, I only started cheonging in year 2000. Not so many years and experience are not as good as those seniors in the field for decades. Apologise if any of the information provide is incorrect. Would appreciate your pointers.

Back in year 2000, I started to go KTV with friends. Not frequent but occasionally once every 2 months or so due to limited cash flow. Frankly speaking, I do enjoy myself more back than than today. (General summary. Do not apply to all.)

KTV gals back than were mostly from Malaysia and Singapore. No communication or understanding problem. Yes is yes and no means no. Most of the time, you really can click with the gals. You get those GF feeling.

Whereas today, you find 95% of the KTV gals from PRC, Vietnam and others. Of course PRC gal have the highest percentage. With that, only less than 5% from Malaysia and/or Singapore local.

Frankly speaking, there is nothing wrong with the change of nationality. Gals will still be gals. But the altitude and thinks of gals are very different.

Common objective of all gals: -
(1) To earn money.
(2) To earn more money
(3) To earn even more money
The is no objection against this goal for the gals. I don't believe any gal will do this job for love and passion. (Is there any?) but the way they earn it is vey different.

The altitude of gals are very different. Malaysia and Vietnam gals are more customer orientated. They are genlte and will try comply with customer needs and actions most of the time. Whereas PRC gals (to me seems that they are acting more high class) this cannot, that cannot.

Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam gals are gentle. Speak when required and not so loud. PRC gal speak like they are shouting on top of their voice (can be hear clearly even if the room is noisy). They just don't give a damn about the customer.

Furthermore, these PRC gal have the habit of talking on their phone very loudly even if they are sitting beside you and entertaining you. How would you feel?

Come on, who is paying? You or the PRC gal? What this kind of treatment / service is this? Other will excused themselves of a couple of minutes and return as soon as possible if the call is important. They will apologise and try to please you immediately. The PRC don't even care. Sitting there like nothing happened.

The above reason is my personal own opinion about PRC gal working in KTV. That is why nowadays, I try not to go to KTV with only PRC gals. But this places are hard to find now.

I actually enjoy more with Vietnam gals. Although I prefer Malaysian KTV gals. Can really chit chat and enjoy yourself. Like I mentioned no communication problem. Depend on how click you can get with her, you may get what you want. After that negotiate the price. Of course we follow the market rate. For PRC, it is money come first. No money no honey.

Vietnam gals are more caring, gentle, and very daring. Whenever I visit this KTV, Vietnam gal is my only choice. They will take care of you nicely. Even offer shoulder and head massage. You don't get this from PRC gals. The only problem will be communication. But since this is KTV, usually we use body language.

I do agreed that most PRC have big melons and this is one of the reason why men like to have them around. Good to see and feel. Not to mention have the two big melon rubber on your face or body and you sucking it. As for me, I would just want to feel it and rubber it with my hand. With the butterfly system in KTV, you don't know how many others had licked and sucked on those melon before you!!!

Apart from that, I don't see any other advantage the PRC gal have against Malaysia, Singapore or Vietnam gals.

Like I mentioned previously, not all PRC gals are the same. Some are better than others. Of course I have met a couple of nice PRC gals (the rare few) and we are more like friends than customer and KTV gals. But most that I have met have an altitude problem. Nice looking gal but the way they present themselves cannot make it. Reasons are as above.

Why they are here is because of us. We are the horny lot and they are here to earn our money. One willingly party to pay and one willingly party to receive. But are we paying for what we are paying or are we over paying them? This is subjective and only you know the worth of the gal sitting with you.

Some may agree to what I said and some may disagree to my reasoning. Would appreciated if you can stay your view.

Regards...
Joker74

[Niceman]

Bro,

What else can we all contribute? You have said it all

Btw, retire from the KTV liao, cos most of them so fake, most of the time, I have no idea whether I should get entertained or they? Abit blur liao. Thus, no point going, unless for meeting others, other than KTV gers.

Cheers

[yonglee]

Originally Posted by Niceman

Bro,
Btw, retire from the KTV liao, cos most of them so fake, most of the time, I have no idea whether I should get entertained or they? Abit blur liao. Thus, no point going, unless for meeting others, other than KTV gers.

Cheers

Bro, dont think of realationship or love or watever with them. We guys r no match for them, many of my friends die in their hands, worst ones ;families also in pieces.....

[Joker74]

Brother...

I have to agree that these PRC gal are good at what they do. I saw many families fell apart because of them. One of them is my relative. It is sad to know what had happened. However, who is to blame. Us or them?

Like the saying goes, ït takes two hand to clap." If you are not the willing party, will things happen? These PRC gal do not take a knife and point at you. Well... they used someting more powerful. So powerful that you have no control. Their charm... Us (horny men will let our second in command to take over once we are charmed or seduced)

But if your self control is there, no matter how they charm or seduce you, nothing will happen. What happened in KTV room should end there. Do not bring it with you home. Sad to say, many S'pore men do not know this principle.

KTV gals are here to earn a living. Not here to talk love and passion with you. Please be fair to them and not put all blame on them. They are human being too. Not the punching bags.

Its our decision that make our family fall apart. Not them actually. It is the nature of their job to seduce you and earn your $$$.

Let me ask you a question. Why do you visit KTV?

For me, I don't know. Only reason I can think of is that I am horny. Need a woman to hug, and release. Can I stop going to KTV? My answer is yes and no.

On my own, I can stop going to these KTV. Have not been visiting KTV by myself or with friend for something already. No motivation to visit.

But for my work, since I am in sales, I have to be there to entertain clients. (Frankly speaking, I don't enjoy myself while entertaining client. Need to restrain myself).

Well KTV will not close if any of us stop visiting. New blood will come to replace whoever had left. This will keep them in business. So long as there is horny men, there will be KTV and other entertainment services.

[infinitiumus]

In general what you said is true..

And it also apply to the PRC FL..

so far I havent met one PRC that can be just "friends"..

[stephan]

haiz.. if u know prc culture well, u can more understand them. they r here for money, some very money minded and some lesser.

u still able to meet up some prc can give u good feeling, so far i got a few out of thousand.....

worth or not is very subjective. for me, i go ktv just to release my works pressure, relax and enjoy my life while i still can... this is life!

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by Joker74

Some may agree to what I said and some may disagree to my reasoning. Would appreciated if you can stay your view.

Regards...
Joker74

KTVs are a waste of time. If you want to fuck a whore, forget about the singing and drinking. Pay her to spread her legs for you and get the business over and done with so you can then concentrate on the more important things in life.

[vader69]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

KTVs are a waste of time. If you want to fuck a whore, forget about the singing and drinking. Pay her to spread her legs for you and get the business over and done with so you can then concentrate on the more important things in life.

Lol... Right to the point

[stephan]

Originally Posted by Joker74

Brother...

I have to agree that these PRC gal are good at what they do. I saw many families fell apart because of them. One of them is my relative. It is sad to know what had happened. However, who is to blame. Us or them?
.

3 words!!! Fuck, Pay and Forget!!!

[Joker74]

Originally Posted by stephan

3 words!!! Fuck, Pay and Forget!!!

Agree!!!!!
No need to talk so much with them anyway.

[gilagila100]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

KTVs are a waste of time. If you want to fuck a whore, forget about the singing and drinking. Pay her to spread her legs for you and get the business over and done with so you can then concentrate on the more important things in life.

Agree 100% ... Nuff said ...

[bochapsing]

Originally Posted by stephan

3 words!!! Fuck, Pay and Forget!!!

it's simply a business transaction.. nothing more..

[titan]

Originally Posted by stephan

3 words!!! Fuck, Pay and Forget!!!

101% agreed. some people who cheong forget about all these when these PRC girls bare their boobies or pussy...

[ang09]

I can understand bros whom fell in love with the hostess because i was once deeply in love with a local hostess. i still remembered vividly that period when i can cheong boss ktv almost every nite during the yr 2000.The reason why i cheong is because she very chio and she got a nickname called small sun yan zi over there and she really sing well. And the worst part is she really those wen rou type, and a gd listener. So basically the idea girl that i thought i can marry. Lucklily i saw her true colour when my credit card almost busted and i cant go ktv like before and she started to avoid my call. i took a gd 6 month to recover.and till now i honestly still cant forget her.i know i am stupid but what to do.......haizz.....

[Joker74]

Originally Posted by ang09

I can understand bros whom fell in love with the hostess because i was once deeply in love with a local hostess. ......
Lucklily i saw her true colour when my credit card almost busted and i cant go ktv like before and she started to avoid my call. i took a gd 6 month to recover.and till now i honestly still cant forget her.i know i am stupid but what to do.......haizz.....

Understand your situation. My relative ws in the same shoe like you. But he is in a worse situation than you are. He got divorced. Damn stupid for him. Have a wife and a 2 year daughter (back then). Now he is without a penny. Bank charge him bankrupt for mot repaying credit card bills (not just one bank but a few). Wife and daughter left him. When the hostess learned that he is broken, she left him.

Now! In this situation, who is to blame? The hostess, the man or the wife?

Here he took up majority of the blame but also blame his wife for what happened to him. Hey man! be fair to your ex-wife! What it got to do with his wife? His wife never ask him to go to that hostess! Damn it! You go out to fuck around and blame your wife for what happen! What kind of theory is this?

Frankly speaking, when man's second head take over the control, he cannot think. So do put the blame to others. You have to be responsible for your own action.

Some time I really feel sorry to women. They have to endure all this for men sin. Kind of unfair to them.